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Old March 19th, 2013 (6:02 AM). Edited March 19th, 2013 by Ajduk.
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    I must say...this game is sadistic.

    And I am talking about the entire trip to the ice gym town.
    Mother of God, why!?
    I just barely made. Too much trainers.

    My Charizard(lvl 63) was at 8hp when I fought Diamond.
    I ran out of potions and full restores, ran out of ethers and elixirs, and was on only 5 Flamethrowers(I ran out of moves).
    And then another trainer shows up.

    I just barely made it.

    Since you can get Electrivire at lvl 40, maybe you can get a Magmortar at lvl 40 as well.

    Also please,

    Is it possible to get all starters? I have heared some rumors that if you chose for example a johto starter and leave the room, that you will be able to chose again.
    Any legit way of getting them?
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    Old March 19th, 2013 (7:38 AM).
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      I must say...this game is sadistic.

      And I am talking about the entire trip to the ice gym town.
      Mother of God, why!?
      I just barely made. Too much trainers.

      My Charizard(lvl 63) was at 8hp when I fought Diamond.
      I ran out of potions and full restores, ran out of ethers and elixirs, and was on only 5 Flamethrowers(I ran out of moves).
      And then another trainer shows up.

      I just barely made it.

      Since you can get Electrivire at lvl 40, maybe you can get a Magmortar at lvl 40 as well.

      Also please,

      Is it possible to get all starters? I have heared some rumors that if you chose for example a johto starter and leave the room, that you will be able to chose again.
      Any legit way of getting them?
      I think you can get the others by visiting again after the E4 (everything except the actual starters, the first three). I haven't tried and probably won't try. I think I'll be more likely to add them in areas in Lauren; just sprinkle them around and give you a reason to go hunting! I am a "catch 'em all" type myself, so I'd love to see them all available somewhere!

      You do know, also, that you can travel back to Serenity City before heading to Route 414, correct? It's actually a good idea, as you can train more and more every trip. Fly is known, so you can go right from the cave entrance on Route 413 back, or even from 414 back.

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      Old March 19th, 2013 (7:54 AM).
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        I am heading to the eight gym now.
        Do I need any HM moves on the way? I am asking this so that I don't get stuck and have to go back all over again.

        I ahve also heard that the Wolrd Chmapionship is one big endurance gauntlet.
        Can that even be done? xD
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        Old March 19th, 2013 (8:33 AM). Edited March 19th, 2013 by Cyclone.
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          I am heading to the eight gym now.
          Do I need any HM moves on the way? I am asking this so that I don't get stuck and have to go back all over again.

          I ahve also heard that the Wolrd Chmapionship is one big endurance gauntlet.
          Can that even be done? xD
          Regarding the eighth Gym, I hacked backwards while mapping last year sometime. I was able to travel all the way from Drakebreath City to the base of Route 414 backwards. So the answer is no, you don't need either missing HM; one is actually found in Drakebreath, not sure of the other. Waterfall IS needed to access Victory Road, but that unlocks with the final victory, I think. (Either that or Dive, they both unlock with those Gyms and both are needed for the final trek.)

          That said, make sure you bring a Surfer along. Or your trek on Route 416 will be a short one.

          Here's the final city in Zhery, where you'll end up. Note that a western exit and jumping the express route takes you to Serenity City via Route 417.



          I've also made a discovery. Magby is not catchable anywhere in the game as far as I can tell, but Magmar is. What do you folks think? Should I put Magby in somewhere in the Zhery region since Elekid was a free pickup? Note that if Magby is also a free pickup, I have yet to see it. I actually wonder, since Growlithe can be caught later, if Magby should come early somewhere - like the Central City Growlithe gifter, change it up. Magmar, meanwhile, is found in Mt. Shuem; my first thought was give it a 4% or 5% rate, still giving more to Magmar.

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          Old March 19th, 2013 (11:58 AM).
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          I actually ended up with two TM23 (Iron Tail) when it somehow reappeared after I first picked it up on Route 408.
          Flag bugs are flag bugs...

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          Why is leveling up so fast in this game? :O
          Because you will need it.

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          So far I love this game
          I only don't like the fact that you are leveling up waaay too fast. I had a charmander before I got to Oak in the first town(and only by fighting trainers).
          Charmander?

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          i really tried playing this game so much. but everytime i try to play it on my psp it simply doesnt works. so i wonder why im so sad about it.
          It's mainly directed at VBA emulator. It's obvious that other emulators may not be supported.

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          Also, what about Electivire? He can evolve only by trade and I don't see him on the trade pokemon list. :O
          40 level

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          I'm not sure where the English patch originated, but I'm glad it did. Otherwise I might not have tried it.
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          Electabuzz evolves to Electivire at level 40. Though don't go higher as there is a level bug that brings its level back if you do
          That bug should be fixed as Cyclone mentioned.
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          Old March 19th, 2013 (12:36 PM).
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            I have a problem.
            I got all 8 badges but now Lunik seems to be wandering the world or something because he is not at home and I really need to fight him.
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            Old March 19th, 2013 (12:41 PM).
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            I have a problem.
            I got all 8 badges but now Lunik seems to be wandering the world or something because he is not at home and I really need to fight him.
            Have you spoken with Solana behind Waterfall in the Dragonbreath City?
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            Old March 19th, 2013 (12:45 PM).
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              Just started today and just beat the 2nd gym a little while ago. I have to say, A+ so far!
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              Old March 19th, 2013 (12:46 PM). Edited March 19th, 2013 by Ajduk.
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                I have spoken with her at the entrance to the victory road.

                It went something like this:

                ''Don't mind me and go fight my friend for some weird unexplained reason while I stand here and glitch your game ''

                So...you got any solution for this?

                I have three but I would like to try yours first before doing this my way.

                Solution a) Enter and exit house about 100 times...maybe he will show up in the meantime.

                Solution b) Use a save slot before battling the last gym leader and hope that this glitch appears at random and that he will have the decency to show up then.

                Solution c) Walkt through walls and hope that it does not affect the rest of the game in any way.(will this affect the rest of the game in any way?)
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                Old March 19th, 2013 (1:28 PM).
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                  So this game uses the generation 3 movesets? I'm confused because Scyther didn't learn fury cutter at level 25 like he does in generation 5, but yet theres generation 5 pokemon around like Venipede. Im kind of concerned because wouldn't that give generation 5 pokemon an advantage since their moves are much more updated and just more powerful overall? Oh and is it possible to obtain a Beldum in this game?
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                  Old March 19th, 2013 (1:36 PM). Edited March 19th, 2013 by Ajduk.
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                    Help...please.

                    The 100 enter/exit did not work.

                    I am getting desperate over here.

                    At least tell me how much will walk through walls cheat here affect the rest of my game?
                    If I do it, will I still be able to continue the game normaly or not?

                    I really love this game and I am afraid that if I apply some new patch that it will erase my save slots and that I will have to do all of this all over again(and maybe it won't work even then :/)

                    EDIT: Nevermind, got it working

                    For all those who get stuck here, you need to first find Red at the store and then go to the house.
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                    Old March 19th, 2013 (3:31 PM).
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                      I have spoken with her at the entrance to the victory road.

                      It went something like this:

                      ''Don't mind me and go fight my friend for some weird unexplained reason while I stand here and glitch your game ''

                      So...you got any solution for this?

                      SNIP

                      Solution b) Use a save slot before Battleing the last gym leader and hope that this glitch appears at random and that he will have the decency to show up then.
                      That. Strikethrough and bold mark changes to your statement that form the answer. If you're trying to access Victory Road before getting the last Gym Badge, naughty you. :D Defeating that missing character causes Solana to disappear or otherwise grant access to Victory Road, and you can't do that normally without having all Badges; since there are no Badge Check gates, this is how Wesley kept the unwelcome out.

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                      Old March 19th, 2013 (10:11 PM).
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                        So this game uses the generation 3 movesets? I'm confused because Scyther didn't learn fury cutter at level 25 like he does in generation 5, but yet theres generation 5 pokemon around like Venipede. Im kind of concerned because wouldn't that give generation 5 pokemon an advantage since their moves are much more updated and just more powerful overall? Oh and is it possible to obtain a Beldum in this game?
                        Yes the Rom base shows that the hack uses Gen 3 based attacks. Don't look onto which gen pokes are in it though. Yes Beldum is obtainable as a gift poke when you progress in the game. Forgot it's exact location though
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                        Old March 20th, 2013 (2:50 AM).
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                        So this game uses the generation 3 movesets? I'm confused because Scyther didn't learn fury cutter at level 25 like he does in generation 5, but yet theres generation 5 pokemon around like Venipede. Im kind of concerned because wouldn't that give generation 5 pokemon an advantage since their moves are much more updated and just more powerful overall? Oh and is it possible to obtain a Beldum in this game?
                        It's a 3rd generation hack so it has 3rd generation movesets.
                        5th generation Pokemon are there just for fans, they have edited movesets that are in most cases not same as in 5th generation as Wesley was limited to 3rd generation moves.
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                        Old March 20th, 2013 (5:50 AM). Edited March 20th, 2013 by Ajduk.
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                          Do 4th gen legendary pokemon such as Palkia and Dialga have their signature moves(rora of time and special redn)?

                          And will 4th and 5th gen moves be added to this game at least as TMs?

                          I've also visited some cities in Lauren but I can't fly there.
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                          Old March 20th, 2013 (6:34 AM).
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                            I'm going to venture a guess that they do NOT have those moves. This because the moves are introduced in fourth gen.

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                            Old March 20th, 2013 (7:57 AM). Edited March 20th, 2013 by ProdigyToby.
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                              My Electivire de-leveled itself, I guess I have an older version? Also I looked up a guide because I was stuck, Rayner isn't at the powerplant. I cant find a way to make him appear at the gym so I can't continue
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                              Old March 20th, 2013 (3:29 PM).
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                                I got to the world championship and then either my gameboid or tablet went ape**** and deleted my save slots -.-

                                Good for me, it left first elite four save slots.
                                I though that it will take me hours to get to the world championship again...then I discovered that gameboid has speed up option. Life is good :D
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                                Old March 20th, 2013 (4:25 PM).
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                                  My Electivire de-leveled itself, I guess I have an older version? Also I looked up a guide because I was stuck, Rayner isn't at the powerplant. I cant find a way to make him appear at the gym so I can't continue
                                  You very well might have an older version. Make sure you are using the one in the topic post now, or in Snakebyte's signature (the same one). The version posted here now DOES do the Power Plant correctly with Rayner (I've done it!). If that doesn't work, it might be possible to just remove the flags causing everyone to be hidden and go into the Gym as if the Power Plant was done; after that, you should be able to proceed to Mt. Icestorm without any problems even if you change versions. (BTW, my Electivire is Lv.42, so that's another sign you have a current version.)

                                  I hope to soon have a Zhery bugfix (and some minor Pokémon changes that I will detail when it's posted) available soon, and that will then become the current version. Of course, Ash will have more things to do on my final version, and I think Snakebyte wanted to do something else as well before it was finally finalized.

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                                  Old March 21st, 2013 (2:18 AM). Edited March 21st, 2013 by Ajduk.
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                                    Cyclone, can you post any kind of hacking tutorial or post a link to one?
                                    There are some things that I would like to add to my game

                                    I've also noticed a couple of minor bugs:
                                    -You can't fly to most places in Lauren(including E4 which makes fighting them to train your pokemon irritating)
                                    -Metagross gives next to nothing exp

                                    If you can, please fix the flying bug.
                                    I need to train my pokemon for the world championship and traveling to the Lauren elite 4 consumes too much time.
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                                    Old March 21st, 2013 (5:53 AM).
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                                      Cyclone, can you post any kind of hacking tutorial or post a link to one?
                                      There are some things that I would like to add to my game

                                      I've also noticed a couple of minor bugs:
                                      -You can't fly to most places in Lauren(including E4 which makes fighting them to train your pokemon irritating)
                                      -Metagross gives next to nothing exp

                                      If you can, please fix the flying bug.
                                      I need to train my pokemon for the world championship and traveling to the Lauren elite 4 consumes too much time.
                                      There are all sorts of tutorials on hacking right over here. However, what kind of improvements do you have in mind? Provided they aren't game-breaking, Ash or I might be interested.

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                                      Old March 21st, 2013 (6:25 AM). Edited March 21st, 2013 by Ajduk.
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                                        I would fix the Lauren flying bug because it is too annyoing.

                                        So far, regarding pokemon, I would power up Kyurem just a bit. My Kyurem is lvl 66 now and combare to some other pokemon of the same lvl in my party, his statistics are pathetic. He is above some in special atk. and atk. but just for a few points. Even some other legendary pokemon at level 40 have higher stats that Kyurem at lvl 66(Darkrai is a good example with his 180 special attack at level 40 combared to Kyurem's 196 on lvl 66).

                                        But mostly, I would try to add as much 4th and 5th gen moves as possible(giving legendary pokemon their signature moves) and maybe rework the movelist by leveling so that it looks more like 4th or 5th gen.

                                        I was thinking of checking some tutorials and adding improvemenst to my version, but pls tell me, if I hack my version, will I still have my save slots?
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                                        Old March 21st, 2013 (6:48 AM).
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                                        Make sure you are using the one in the topic post now, or in Snakebyte's signature (the same one).
                                        I wouldn't be so sure that SB's last version is the same as in the first post...
                                        If they were, we wouldn't have so many people talking about older versions...

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                                        Do 4th gen legendary pokemon such as Palkia and Dialga have their signature moves(rora of time and special redn)?

                                        And will 4th and 5th gen moves be added to this game at least as TMs?
                                        And here we go again... People who aren't reading even though the answer is ONE post above...

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                                        Cyclone, can you post any kind of hacking tutorial or post a link to one?
                                        There are some things that I would like to add to my game
                                        VMs! VMs are your friend and keep the thread clear of unnecessary posts.

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                                        I've also noticed a couple of minor bugs:
                                        -You can't fly to most places in Lauren(including E4 which makes fighting them to train your pokemon irritating)
                                        ROM has not enough flying positions for that.

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                                        -Metagross gives next to nothing exp
                                        That should have been fixed in the newest version.

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                                        So far, regarding pokemon, I would power up Kyurem just a bit. My Kyurem is lvl 66 now and combare to some other pokemon of the same lvl in my party, his statistics are pathetic. He is above some in special atk. and atk. but just for a few points. Even some other legendary pokemon at level 40 have higher stats that Kyurem at lvl 66(Darkrai is a good example with his 180 special attack at level 40 combared to Kyurem's 196 on lvl 66).
                                        Kyurem has same stats, obviously it doesn't have enough EVs to be powerful.

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                                        I was thinking of checking some tutorials and adding improvemenst to my version, but pls tell me, if I hack my version, will I still have my save slots?
                                        Yes, but you will mess up the game by hacking it.
                                        Your choice.

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                                        But mostly, I would try to add as much 4th and 5th gen moves as possible(giving legendary pokemon their signature moves) and maybe rework the movelist by leveling so that it looks more like 4th or 5th gen.
                                        OMFG! 4th and 5th generation moves are not implemented because it is NOT possible (or better said, not quite implementable) right now.
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                                        Old March 21st, 2013 (8:30 AM).
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                                          You very well might have an older version. Make sure you are using the one in the topic post now, or in Snakebyte's signature (the same one). The version posted here now DOES do the Power Plant correctly with Rayner (I've done it!). If that doesn't work, it might be possible to just remove the flags causing everyone to be hidden and go into the Gym as if the Power Plant was done; after that, you should be able to proceed to Mt. Icestorm without any problems even if you change versions. (BTW, my Electivire is Lv.42, so that's another sign you have a current version.)

                                          I hope to soon have a Zhery bugfix (and some minor Pokémon changes that I will detail when it's posted) available soon, and that will then become the current version. Of course, Ash will have more things to do on my final version, and I think Snakebyte wanted to do something else as well before it was finally finalized.

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                                          What is "removing flags" and how would I go about doing that? Im currently stuck and I would rather not waste 10+ hours of gameplay because I made a dumb mistake and didnt look up the current version. Thanks for your help thus far.
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                                          Old March 21st, 2013 (10:07 AM).
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                                            Originally Posted by ProdigyToby View Post
                                            What is "removing flags" and how would I go about doing that? Im currently stuck and I would rather not waste 10+ hours of gameplay because I made a dumb mistake and didnt look up the current version. Thanks for your help thus far.
                                            TBH, I don't have the tools for that, but I do see in AM where the sprites would be set to appear. Somewhere in the Gym sprite settings with the right tool is a restriction to only appear when the Leader has already returned to the Gym, and for Rayner to appear at the Power Plant only when you can legitimately head in that direction (the Icestorm cave blockage is there until you defeat the Gym).

                                            Now that I'm thinking about it, it makes me wonder if anything was missed on the way to Serenity City...but I don't think anything CAN be missed. You have to do Groment Mines to unlock that Gym, complete that Gym to be able to Surf, and then along Route 412 you go. Provided you didn't use a walk through walls or something, you can't end up in that scenario with the Leader missing from the Power Plant.

                                            However, since Electivire is having level bugs in your copy, you need to replace it with the current copy and try that. Not only will Electivire work, but perhaps the Leader will show up. If I can learn how to remove the flag blocking his appearance (which would require more tools, not something I have time for today), I can set him to appear all the time until spoken to, then he's gone again as before once the Gym is unlocked. However, I'd have to use a copy (or back up the original) because I don't want to do something like that to the main game file I'm working on, which doesn't have this bug.

                                            One more thought. Are you using Save States? Save in-game and then reset the ROM and load it, see if that fixes it.

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