Ubuntu 8.10 Intrepid Ibex Released Today

Started by Virtual Chatot October 30th, 2008 11:24 AM
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Today's a great day for Ubuntu Linux fans. Ubuntu 8.10, better known as Intrepid Ibex, was released today. This new version includes better USB Launching, Wi-Fi Support, improved Virtualization, and alot more security.

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Oh yeah! I almost forgot bout this, thanks for the reminder, Been wanting to get the final for Kubuntu 8.10 since trying out the beta. based on my experience with the beat I'd easily say it's my favoured BU OS if in any case Mac OS X goes out.
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Ubuntu 8.04 was a disappointment for me, and 8.10 doesn't seem to have improved things terribly much. The changes that are made over such a quick development cycle are just too small, and feature freezes just come too early. The end user experience still hasn't improved that drasticly. What happened to the new theme that was pitched for 8.04? It's failed to materialize yet again. Also, I'm not very fond of the two bar layout, which they're still sticking with. It just takes up too much space on the screen, especially on smaller or older laptops which Ubuntu is ideal for.

I just can't see that much improving very quickly. For all these worthy background changes, there aren't enough foreground changes to keep things interesting. Sure, it's slightly easy to coax the binary ATI drivers on now, and sound may be a little less problematic, but on the face of things, things havn't really improved all that much since Feisty.

I think Ubuntu could do with skipping 9.04 out and giving more time for 9.10 to develop, without having to work around the feature freezes. Ubuntu needs a UI redesign, and could do with a less haphazard packaging system. (Which still requires you to launch Synaptic or a terminal for the majority of apps.) Though having said that, deb is probably the best format on Linux, but I feel it's still got it's problems when it comes to dependancies.

I'd also advocate moving away from the Linux standard filesystem, and move to a more OSX like fililng system, as the current /usr /bin /etc is pretty intimidating for the non technical, and messy even for the more technicaly minded. OSX's system of keeping the traditional *nix folders, but filing away applications under /Applications in neat, discrete folders is a good one, and Ubuntu could benefit from doing something similar. (I believe symbolic links to the execs are put in /usr/bin still? Stop me if I'm wrong.) Though I'm sure a lot of people wouldn't want this, and I wouldn't think Canonical would want to be alianating their user base.

So yeah. Ubuntu's just not making as much progress as I think it should. =o They need to take some time to revamp it, instead of constantly pushing out new editions.
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Oh... interesting to see some people discusing Linux technicals here :paranoid:

Well, I have to say I haven't tested Intrepid Ibex yet, and I strongly think I won't. Freestyle Farfetch'd has it right with regards to the very rushed release cycle, which for the last years has become Ubuntu's major hindrance in the path towards stability and acceptance. I, for one, stick with the "Long Term Support" versions (the most recent being 8.04 "Hardy Heron"), because it's more stable, hence I will use it for servers and virtualized systems offering the exact same management experience than whith normal users.

Anyways, when it comes to ease of use in the Desktop area, Ubuntu has only a few competitors, the most important one I think would be Fedora.

With regards to the filesystem hierarchy, I think it would do as much harm as good to change it now, seeing that among distributions and packagers the acceptance of the LSB standard is still very fuzzy, to say the least. The current hierarchy has the strong advantage that different applications can store versioned content and libs between system installed (/usr) and locally installed (/usr/local) builds and still share a commonly accesible configuration center. That is paramount when switching distributions or performing large-impact upgrades because it allows the user to keep certain functional programs working despite the tremendous modifications to the base system. That mostly comes thanks to having /home. It also eases dependency location (but not management) because dependencies can be searched between system, local and transient versions without much of a hazzle. But if the packagers don't use this to advantage, then what's the point...?

Hence I think a move towards Mac style hierarchy would be welcome if it is well studied and if it is actually promoted and adverstised among distributions with a high level of commitment.

Well... I can't talk more about Intrepid Ibex because, as I said, I won't use it. For the ones who like Ubuntu and have the machine and the guts, by all means, go and try, but after some years of Linx experience in several battlefronts, I'd recomend staying with 8.04 or switching to Fedora (house desktop) or OpenSuse (work/school desktop).
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Wifi support and more security, ok thats it I am defintly installing ubuntu on this computer!
Thanks for the news.
Actually, Ubuntu has had Wifi support since day 1, and distros before it did too. What Virtual Chatot really meant to say was that it now has 3G support, so if you are somehow running Ubuntu on a device with 3G radio, you can use it for internet access, I believe.
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Actually, Ubuntu has had Wifi support since day 1, and distros before it did too. What Virtual Chatot really meant to say was that it now has 3G support, so if you are somehow running Ubuntu on a device with 3G radio, you can use it for internet access, I believe.
Well I was sure the the Wifi support was real bad.
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Well, even though one can say Wifi support has been there since stardate X, the amplenessof the support is another matter entirely. Up until Dapper (6.06), if your wifi chipset/antenna was not supported you were fried, because projects to emulate the Windows drivers (such as ndiswrapper) were very buggy.

Today, on the other hand, most if not all chipsets are supported. Not to th exact level available under Windows, but I've not known up to date a chipset whose basic functions (discovery and connect to open network) were not available. IMHO, individual developers have done this better than the distro packagers.

The only "but" is the Atheros chipset. From what I've heard, ever since it was adopted into the Linux Kernel past August, compatibility has gone up our a****.

Hey... I'm just ranting here. I live very happy with a standard Ethernet connection, after all, I teach that technology at collegue.
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I've never been a fan of Linux of any type. I consider it a hassle to deal with since they don't have a full solid download for you to download and install that way (except for, from what I can see this very version of it). Instead you have to download part by part which is a real pain to have to do in my opinion. But the design that I am seeing in some screenshots on it makes me want to get it more than I would a Mac OS X operating system (and with me, that's hard to beat). Hopefully the performance would be as good as the design.

I'm going to look into this and try it out. I'll be posting what I think about it when I've actually tried it. But so far, it looks to be very promising and I can't wait to be able to put this baby on my system.