Proposition 8 (California) Page 2

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You should respect everyone. It's just the right thing to do :)
Exactly...It's the right thing to do to respect everyone. So why isn't the opinion that gay marriage shouldn't be legal deserving of any respect? This is a moral issues, not one of right and wrong. We should respect the views of the majority of the country, just like we do for elections. It's up to the states to legalize gay marriage or not, but it's pointless to bicker and get heated over differing opinions...We're never going to change each other's mind on how we choose to think.

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Exactly...It's the right thing to do to respect everyone. So why isn't the opinion that gay marriage shouldn't be legal deserving of any respect? This is a moral issues, not one of right and wrong.
Err, according to the dictionary, morals are "pertaining to, or concerned with the principles or rules of right conduct or the distinction between right and wrong; ethical: moral attitudes." :P

I'm just saying, if two mature adults love each other, why can't they get married?
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Err, according to the dictionary, morals are "pertaining to, or concerned with the principles or rules of right conduct or the distinction between right and wrong; ethical: moral attitudes." :P
Right, and who's to say whether your opinion on an issue based on your morals is right or wrong? Morals will effect the way we think and how we view certain issues, which will thusly make us form opinions on said issues. Opinions aren't right or wrong...They're opinions. You're taking the definition of morals much too literally.

I'm just saying, if two mature adults love each other, why can't they get married?
Why does the inability to get married automatically mean that you're somehow being wronged? Is anyone saying two gay people can't live together, be happy together, and raise a family together? No one is voting against that. But I say again, this is an issue left for the states and their people to decide.

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I'm to vote no, to provide a brief window into my opinion.

To be less brief, I'm voting no because I look at it this way: so long as two lovers can be devoted and content in a relationship, who cares? Discrimination and prejudice of any kind are on equal footing when it comes to being reprehensible. To me, to traduce others for being of different preferences is to make cruelty a simple thing and to create a bandwagon within itself - why so many are inclined to make this sound like such a horrible thing remains an enigma to me. To cast off someone for being different, sexually or not, is to hate someone in my eyes - and to hate anything is frightening. It's self-destructive and leads to inward hate, eventually. But I don't get why people apply even dislike to such things. Even if it's a choice or through genetics (I suppose making it a more valid "weakness"), it shouldn't make a difference. Like the Civil Rights movement, one day we'll probably all look back upon this prop and wonder why it was ever debated to begin with. I wouldn't say it's paltry but it shouldn't incur hate either. It shouldn't be a debatable.

Legal union is about equality, not sex. To say yes to this prop is to deny love, so if that's what one is aiming to do, then I think it just furthers the already sad world we live in. Not to be too pessimistic; those are my sentiments.
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Really now.
Cite sources please, as this is the first I've ever heard of this actually being used in a debate.
If that's the case, you haven't debated with enough people. As for citing a source to show you that the argument exists, which I really shouldn't have to, here you go:

Opponents of same-sex marriage also point to research which state the power and importance of the mother-child bond compared to children without a mother.[56][65][66] David Blankenhorn argues that raising children in a same-sex marriage violates the 1989 U.N. Convention on the Rights of the Child that guarantees children the right to know and to be cared for by the two parents who brought them into this world.[67]
Homosexuality passes on as much STDs as heterosexuality.
You missed the point of his argument, which was that it passes disease without the benefit of the creation of new life. This is also an argument that is commonly used against heterosexual sex without the intention of bearing a child.

If God made them that way, then I'd accept them.
Why?
Because I believe God doesn't make mistakes and he wouldn't allow these many people to exist if he didn't will it.
You have got to be kidding. First you get on our backs for having no reason for marriage being sacred, and now this. I will now state one of your quotes with a few words changed:

"My question for you, txteclipse Erik Destler, is: what makes gay marriage ethical or unethical you think that God decides peoples' sexual orientations. ^^;"

If you want to argue theology, that's fine by me, so here goes.

<THEOLOGY>

I don't think that God creates people in a biological sense, for he allows things to exist that are contrary to his will all the time. By your argument, God must have willed events like the holocaust simply because they happened. There are two things that I don't believe God tampers with on a regular basis: free will and nature. God lets us exist as natural selection would cause, but he gives us the free will to decide what we will do with the personal situation that we are presented with. In short, I do not believe that being attracted to one's own sex is a sin, but that practicing in homosexual sex and marriage is.

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Slaughter makes serial killers happy. Burning buildings make pyromaniacs happy. Rape makes rapists happy. Toning down the intensity a bit, shoplifting makes thieves happy. Should we stop denying them what makes them happy? Again, this is how democracy works. The majority of people decide what is acceptable and what is not. And again, I will live with it if the majority of people vote to allow gay marriage.
you're so right, I should commit rape and shoplift then I'd be equivalent to gay marriage, it's totally worth it, thanks for opening my eyes, I could have never done that without your wisdom ^_^

The pursuit of happiness is bound by the law, however. As I said in my before example, you can do whatever makes you happy as long as the majority of the country is okay with you doing so. The minority doesn't suddenly get special privilege because whatever they want to do will make them happy: if society worked that way, we would be forced to let rapists/serial killers/etc. do whatever they wanted, like I just showed.
the pursuit of happiness is a law now? well ****! and it sounds like you're an idiot who will follow any garbage that comes out of someone's mouth and just follow them because you can't make your own choice in life

I think that gay marriage is wrong. That was my point. Note the bit about shoplifting if those examples aren't cutting it for you.
your examples are terrible, we might as well compare you to the IQ of a shovel

And it may, in fact probably will, be harmful to allow gay marriage, at least in my eyes. I do not want my children brought up in schools where teachers can take them on field trips to lesbian weddings, or to let teachers be able to teach them in sex ed that being gay is okay. For me, that would be like allowing teachers to tell kids to shoplift. It is morally unacceptable.
you may not know this but.... gay marriage doesn't kill people, people kill people, you get it now?

It is a holy union between a man and a woman, no matter how that definition has been twisted thus far.
apparently atheists can marry, who knew?

Anyways, I am a Christian, and I am sure that you are well aware that my religion considers homosexuality to be a sin. This is really all the explanation I need, but it's not all you'll get, as I have others.
then you will know that God forgives all and accepts all his children in open arms

First, homosexuality causes physical harm. I probably don't need to go too in-depth here. It can spread STD's as well, which is made worse by the fact that it is not a viable form of procreation: it is an unnecessary method to spread such diseases. It can also cause sexual confusion in those exposed to it at a young or relatively young age, which can also be harmful. It can lead to depression, feelings of low self-worth or not belonging, and the desire to get cosmetic surgeries such as sex changes, which aside from being unnecessary always carry the risk of infection, disease, and all of the other complications normally associated with surgery.
I didn't know same gender sex can give STD's, I guess the chances are lower than that to sex with the opposite gender. I dunno, I know lots of gays who aren't depressed, they're actually quite cheerful and fun to be with and I'd totally have sex with them, even though I am straight, does that mean I will get an STD? probably not.

but anyway, same sex marriage should stay, everyone has the right to marry anyone they wish to marry
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There are several "gay rights" issues that have come under a lot of debate, Volkner's Apprentice. Hospital visitation (does a gay partner constitute "family" when only family is allowed to visit), insurance privileges, employment discrimination, housing (people refusing to let gay couples live in a house they're renting, etc.), among other things.
Ahh, now I see what you mean, sorry about that. Yes, those types of situations should be made illegal to discriminate against, ESPECIALLY the housing thing. Unless you yourself live in the room next door to the person you plan on renting it out to, that's no reason to say 'sorry, I don't let gays live here.' That's just ridiculous.

When it comes to marriage, I don't know, it seems like the biggest thing same-sex marriages would fight for is the medical rights, etc. that come along with binding marriage agreements.

How the heck did marriages get so law-binding anyway? X_x So much for separation of church and state..(no, I'm not totally oblivious to the fact that marriages have been law-binding for quite some time XD I just don't know why they're still so focused on it. Well..actually I know exactly why, for a load of reasons..yet for some reason I'm still typing...

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If it doesn't hurt anyone there is no reason to ban it.

I understand that people have religious beliefs that say homosexuality is wrong, but I believe strongly in the complete separation of church and state, so I don't think that should be an issue, although it certainly is.

Just remember that once people believed that interracial marriages would be harmful to society just as strongly as people today think homosexual marriages would be.

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I'm voting yes, anyways. I consider gay marriage to be unethical. On top of that, gay couples would take benefits that are funded by my tax money which would normally be reserved for traditional couples.
As much as I respect your opinion, there are enough homosexuals in the world to cover the benefits you're so dearly worried that they will be taking away from you. Once you give that money to the government, it's not yours anymore, sweetie. Aside from that, tax money goes to various aspects of our nation that you seem to be ignoring in that statement. How are you so sure that your money is going only directly to those who you do not wish to be united together? I am confused as to why you're even associating government with your argument here which is clearly a religion based argument. Like many people have stated, and I agree with, it's not the government's job to decide if two people who love each other should be together or not. I don't even think it's any religious leader to decide that either. Homosexual couples should be given the same rights that heterosexual couples have already. Just because in their lifetime, they decided that they were attracted to the same sex, it does not give the government to strip away rights they had when they were born into this country.

Not everyone's religion have the same aspects as yours, though. In fact, many people don't even believe in religion these days. Punishing them just because you believe that their way of life is wrong is very hypocritical and an issue I'm surprised still exists in today's society. It doesn't matter what is and what isn't ethical towards someone who believes it should be banned. The ethics that you believe in play no part in what others believe in. If it's the life they believe to be the ethical one, nobody else should have a say in it just like nobody else should have a say in what you have to eat in the morning.

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To be quite honest, I do not care one whit either way.
I certainly agree that gay people have as much right to be happy as others. However, I also agree that allowing people to refer to such a union as marriage is not acceptable. In all honesty, this issue has blown up because no one has bothered to try to come up with a more appropriate and acceptable term for such a union. Maybe someday we'll coin a good phrase for it and call it a day. After all, this is America. We're very well known to squabble over issues like this and then come to slowly accept them.
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On top of that, gay couples would take benefits that are funded by my tax money which would normally be reserved for traditional couples.
Tax money also goes to help disabled people eat and live, unwed/married mothers who need help feeding their children (at least in my state), and other such needed funds. It's not like once gay marriage is legalized that all funding from the government is going to help them.

David Blankenhorn argues that raising children in a same-sex marriage violates the 1989 U.N. Convention on the Rights of the Child that guarantees children the right to know and to be cared for by the two parents who brought them into this world.[67]
o_O That also means that adoption violates that U.N. Convention thing. If the biological parents are dead or incapable of caring for the child, it's "wrong" for them to be adopted by a couple that'll love the child(ren)?

And I agree with Erik. I mean, not all families are traditional these days, with both biological parents raising the children. Are those families also "wrong" because they "psychologically damage" the children in them?

This is also an argument that is commonly used against heterosexual sex without the intention of bearing a child.
This might not mean that you wanted to bring this up, but if a problem of homosexual sex is the fact that it does not allow one of the couple to bear a child, then what about the heterosexual couples that are physically unable, or choose not, to have children?

It can lead to depression, feelings of low self-worth or not belonging, and the desire to get cosmetic surgeries such as sex changes, which aside from being unnecessary always carry the risk of infection, disease, and all of the other complications normally associated with surgery.
Audy covered most of this quote, and said what I was probably going to say against it, but I have more to say that he didn't.

The reason why homosexuals feel that they "don't belong" is because of the attitude people take toward them. People ostracize them. Heck, people ostracize anyone who doesn't fit in their definition of "normal". When someone is shunned from the group for being gay, of course they're going to be depressed. They lost their group. They get insulted. They feel worthless. It's not because of the actual homosexuality. It's because people are rude to those who are different. (Not that everyone is.)

what makes you think that God decides peoples' sexual orientations
God is said to have made "man" in His image. Each one of "us" is made in the image of God. When you hurt one human, you are actually hurting God, because God made every one of His children in His image. If you believe that we are all children of God, then homosexuals are made by God in His image, and when you hurt a homosexual in anyway, you are hurting one of God's children, and in a sense, God Himself. (At least, that's what I can dredge out of my memory at five in the morning from many years ago.)

My state, Connecticut, has legalized gay marriage. (However long it's going to last, I don't know. I'm happy we're currently like this.) But I would vote "no" on Prop 8 for a variety of reasons.

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Maybe someday we'll coin a good phrase for it and call it a day. After all, this is America. We're very well known to squabble over issues like this and then come to slowly accept them.
Marriage is currently defined, according to my dorky Merriam-Webster Dictionary, as "the state of being united to another person as a usually contractual relationship according to law or custom". Definitions change with the times, people. Many have done so before, and will continue to do so. The culture (custom) also changes.

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First, homosexuality causes physical harm. I probably don't need to go too in-depth here. It can spread STD's as well, which is made worse by the fact that it is not a viable form of procreation: it is an unnecessary method to spread such diseases. It can also cause sexual confusion in those exposed to it at a young or relatively young age, which can also be harmful. It can lead to depression, feelings of low self-worth or not belonging, and the desire to get cosmetic surgeries such as sex changes, which aside from being unnecessary always carry the risk of infection, disease, and all of the other complications normally associated with surgery.
I myself am gay, I had depression, not from being gay, I used to cut myself, not from being gay, from aruging with my parents. Homosexual's don't hurt themselves or others, we are harmless.

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Maybe someday we'll coin a good phrase for it and call it a day. After all, this is America. We're very well known to squabble over issues like this and then come to slowly accept them.
Marriage is currently defined, according to my dorky Merriam-Webster Dictionary, as "the state of being united to another person as a usually contractual relationship according to law or custom". Definitions change with the times, people. Many have done so before, and will continue to do so. The culture (custom) also changes.
Well thankfully the folks who publish the dictionary are on the right track. (They usually are).
But the fact still remains that there are going to be some extremely religious people who will fight this tooth and nail unless we come up with another term for gay marriage. I'm not saying it cant be a perfect equal to marriage by saying it should have a different word attached to it, I'm just saying that a lot of wind could be taken out of the religious side's sails so to speak...by doing so.

And I agree wirh Claire. I've had a few homosexual experiences myself, (Curiosity on the most part) and guess what? I'm still just perfectly fine. (though I've since returned to being normal)
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See, I'm pretty conflicted on this right now. I don't see how the majority of the U.S. won't vote against legalizing gay marriage, but really, it's something that is up for the states to decide.

As for me, I'm leaning towards yes (voting for proposition 8). And no, I don't believe voting for this means you're "Anti-gay" or you think that gay people are second class citizens. I certainly don't believe either of those. I just thing marriage should be between a man and a woman. Not even for religious reasons...My moral beliefs just direct me to have this opinion. And I'd appreciate it if no one called me a coward or a nut for thinking this way, and I will try do the same. I don't think anyone is wrong or right on this issue, I just think it's up to the people to decide. If the states decide it should be legal, so be it.
While i can honestly say that i would be on the no side i respect what you have to say on it Aura,
"I disagree with what you have to say, but i will fight for your right to say it" - Voltaire

after all it's freedom of speech
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While i can honestly say that i would be on the no side i respect what you have to say on it Aura,
"I disagree with what you have to say, but i will fight for your right to say it" - Voltaire

after all it's freedom of speech
Spoken like a true debater.

This is why I think we should come up with an acceptable word to express the idea of a homosexual marriage. and not call it marriage.
I believe it's the most noble way to resolve the issue. We give the gays the rights they deserve and give the conservatives and religious folk a word to demonize in their own little churchy world without being forced to challenge the sanctity of a marriage.
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Pachi is thats the case then you have any suggestions?
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I just suggested my solution. We should coin a separate term to refer to Gay marriage and give it equal meaning to marriage in all respects, and just use that word to refer to the union as either a marriage (male x female) or <whatever term is coined here> (Male x Male or Female X Female)

That would keep people from whining about the sacred meaning of the word marriage. And if you dont mind gay people so much you can hold the term for gay marriage as sacred as the actual word marriage and if you disagree then you can silently demonize it. your choice as long as you stay civil about how you express your opinion on the matter
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i see

well i honestly have no ideas....on a name forgay marrage that was why i was asking if you had suggestions of name eheh
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Oh. Well that's another discussion for another thread to be honest....
Anyways, back on track. I honestly think that there's seriously no harm in allowing gay marriage.
Honestly, I cannot emphasize enough the many pieces of scripture in the bible I've seen and heard which proclaim we are beings with FREE WILL. And to be honest, I know that The Bible also says we can be forgiven for our sins. The Bible also states that it is a sin to pass judgment upon others.

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you're so right, I should commit rape and shoplift then I'd be equivalent to gay marriage, it's totally worth it, thanks for opening my eyes, I could have never done that without your wisdom ^_^
You're right. It would be equivalent to other crimes as far as I'm concerned. Not as bad as rape, I'm pretty certain, but I'd still consider it a moral trespass.

the pursuit of happiness is a law now? well ****! and it sounds like you're an idiot who will follow any garbage that comes out of someone's mouth and just follow them because you can't make your own choice in life
I would advise you to use correct grammar when developing an argument of this kind.

your examples are terrible, we might as well compare you to the IQ of a shovel
If this particular shovel has an I.Q. of 135, then you are spot-on.

you may not know this but.... gay marriage doesn't kill people, people kill people, you get it now?
I fail to see how this is relevant to what you were addressing.

apparently atheists can marry, who knew?
However, they can't engage in holy matrimony as far as I'm concerned. It is unfortunate that I must now specify the difference between marriage and holy matrimony: they used to be one and the same.

then you will know that God forgives all and accepts all his children in open arms
But not all of His children accept Him.

I didn't know same gender sex can give STD's, I guess the chances are lower than that to sex with the opposite gender. I dunno, I know lots of gays who aren't depressed, they're actually quite cheerful and fun to be with and I'd totally have sex with them, even though I am straight, does that mean I will get an STD? probably not.
It is difficult to find meaning in the debacle that is your writing, but I think you're saying that homosexual individuals have a lower STD rate than straight individuals? This is untrue: they're about the same.

As much as I respect your opinion, there are enough homosexuals in the world to cover the benefits you're so dearly worried that they will be taking away from you. Once you give that money to the government, it's not yours anymore, sweetie.
Actually, yes, it very much is. Or rather, it belongs to the government, and I get to pick how my government spends that money, along with the rest of society. So if the majority of society says "no, we don't want gay marriage," then the government sure as heck better not be spending our money on it.

The reason why homosexuals feel that they "don't belong" is because of the attitude people take toward them.
This is part of the equation, I'm sure, but another, major reason they feel this way is because it isn't natural. Being gay forces your brain and body to do things they aren't intended to do. You become conflicted.

By the way, I do not in any form condone belittling or otherwise degrading any person on account of their sexual preference. I recognize that gays are still people (duh) and thus must be treated with respect. I have my own faults, and I wouldn't like it if people shoved them in my face. This doesn't mean I condone the gay lifestyle either, mind you: it simply means I am tolerant.

Not everyone's religion have the same aspects as yours, though. In fact, many people don't even believe in religion these days. Punishing them just because you believe that their way of life is wrong is very hypocritical and an issue I'm surprised still exists in today's society.
How can I be the one punishing people if what they're doing is wrong? That's like telling me I'm the bad guy if I have a shoplifter cool his heels in the slammer for a while. My moral code mandates that homosexuality is bad. Why would I see not allowing it to be a form of punishment?

God is said to have made "man" in His image. Each one of "us" is made in the image of God. When you hurt one human, you are actually hurting God, because God made every one of His children in His image. If you believe that we are all children of God, then homosexuals are made by God in His image, and when you hurt a homosexual in anyway, you are hurting one of God's children, and in a sense, God Himself. (At least, that's what I can dredge out of my memory at five in the morning from many years ago.)
And this is where free will comes into play. God does not make people homosexual: they choose to be that way. According to God Himself, homosexuality is a sin. He would not make people that are hard-wired to be sinners. It doesn't make sense.

EDIT: I really need to sleep now, and I can't see myself coming back to this thread if I can help it. I've gotten in way too many political debates lately, and it's becoming a bit too draining for my liking.

Thank you all for putting up with me and each other thus far for the most part: a lot of good, valid argumentation was brought forth, and I applaud the mostly mature manner in which this debate has been executed. This provides a good atmosphere of discussion, rather than a harsh environment that feels more like an exchange of blows.

Finally, if I have offended anyone personally, please tell me. I never desire to do so, and would like to make it right if I have. That's about it for me.

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I won't be that radical, but I agree with Emily. =/

I strongly believe that true love has nothing to do with gender, and I even more strongly believe that people who are in love don't give a damn about their lover's gender.

I'd suggest you try to be more open-minded, txteclipse. :o I'm catholic myself, but that's no question here. As far as I know one cannot choose what gender to lover. =/ I think you fall in love with the person, not the package. (to state it black/white)
So I approve of gay marriage. =/ To me, it's no different than the marriage between man and woman. After all, isn't the main thought of marriage (holy matrimony or not) to connect two people who want to be with eachother? They love eachother so much that they don't want to leave each other's sides again, regardless of their genders.

Although I will say that it's still odd to see two people of the same gender together. =/ But that's just because I'm not used to it. ^^"

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I'm voting yes, anyways. I consider gay marriage to be unethical. On top of that, gay couples would take benefits that are funded by my tax money which would normally be reserved for traditional couples.
So what? Whether it's a straight couple or a gay couple, you're still paying for it. *cough*discrimination*cough*

Anyways, I am a Christian, and I am sure that you are well aware that my religion considers homosexuality to be a sin. This is really all the explanation I need, but it's not all you'll get, as I have others.
So just because you're Christian means everyone else has to live by you're rules? Not everyone in the world is Christian, txt. If you're gonna try to force your religion on people, force it on everyone; not just gays/lesbians. Why don't you go run up to a couple Muslim's on the street and preach your corruption to them, too? What you're doing is discriminating, no matter what half-assed excuse you try to put over it.

First, homosexuality causes physical harm. I probably don't need to go too in-depth here. It can spread STD's as well, which is made worse by the fact that it is not a viable form of procreation: it is an unnecessary method to spread such diseases. It can also cause sexual confusion in those exposed to it at a young or relatively young age, which can also be harmful. It can lead to depression, feelings of low self-worth or not belonging, and the desire to get cosmetic surgeries such as sex changes, which aside from being unnecessary always carry the risk of infection, disease, and all of the other complications normally associated with surgery.
So you're basically saying that everyone else who isn't gay has sex only to reproduce? Why do you think they invented condoms? While a man and a woman are able to reproduce, it doesn't mean they want to do it everytime they engage in sexual activities.

But wait! Couples expressing their love for one another and not wanting to have a baby is a sin! If we go by what you're saying, it puts them right up there with gays and lesbians. Quick! Illiminate their rights to get married! Start riots, discriminate! Yes, this is what you're doing. Don't you dare call yourself a Christian when you're willing to sit here and tell another human being they're not allowed to love. Don't you dare call yourself a Christian when you're willing to sit here and tell another human being they're not allowed to be who they are. and last, but not least, don't you dare call yourself a Christian when you're the one committing the most deadly of the Seven Deadly Sins: Pride.

Oh, and by the way, I think we're about to start seeing a lot more gay couples/marriages, especially in the Chinese/Indian areas, what with the One Child Policy and the female infanticide that's going on.

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This would just be a flat no.

For those who think that this has the slightest thing to do with religion, it doesn't. The government is not based on a religion, and it's just not right to just forcefully edit someone's belief's just because of the area in which they live in. Gays have the right to love, and as far as I'm concerned, sexuality was never a choice for someone. People are gay and they wish they weren't; they are in love with the people of the same sex, and you can't do anything to alter that. Love is an uncontrollable factor. What a gay marriage banishment is doing is just to putting a limit on the people that one can love. This is basically a second black vs. white discrimination, only relating to one's sexuality and personal preferences.

People should have the right to lead their own lives and discover their own personal interests. When blunt outsiders are voting Yes to this whole situation, then they have yet to open their eyes and feel what their victims are feeling. The majority may be against homosexual marriage, but who cares. In the old days, the majority of the people were white. They were the dominant force of this country, but now everything is equalized. And if everything is equalized, why are gays still discriminated? It's their own personal preference about who and what they like. Random outsiders shouldn't be able to choose every single opinion and trait they have. Love is an uncontrollable factor. Regardless of what others think, sexuality is not always an optional choice. There are MANY people who wish to be straight, but are gay; yet there are gays who take pride in their sexuality. Guess what? It's not controllable. For example, you love this certain someone at school but you don't want to; are you seriously going to force yourself out of loving her for someone else who's impressive, but not one who interests you? You can't tell another human being that they can't be who they are! Black vs. whites, gays vs. straights. I see little difference at hand.

The country was created equal!

Anyways, I am a Christian, and I am sure that you are well aware that my religion considers homosexuality to be a sin. This is really all the explanation I need, but it's not all you'll get, as I have others.
No one cares what religion you are. We're talking about law here, and last time I checked, the government isn't a religion.

First, homosexuality causes physical harm. I probably don't need to go too in-depth here. It can spread STD's as well, which is made worse by the fact that it is not a viable form of procreation: it is an unnecessary method to spread such diseases.
So what? Man vs. woman reproduction can lead to the spread of AIDS and the HIV virus. Do you think that should be banned? I think it's a no. So why should homosexuality be banned? Nobody said that gays actually wanted to reproduce. Man and woman can reproduce, but that DOES NOT guarantee that they want to reproduce every single time that they engage in intercourse. Their depression is only caused by the strongly biased views that most people take on them.

Since when, was loving someone you truly love a crime?

If gays were to indeed get married, they would be taking all the chances it may lead to. But it's their choice, and if they think that it's the right decision they should go for it. Both heterosexual and homosexual marriage have risks. Point is? You're only taking away the rights of people who you haven't even met. You're judging someone upon who they have to be and not who they really are.

Love has no gender.