2nd Gen Lt. Surge the American

Started by Bonzai-Cat November 1st, 2008 9:27 PM
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I haven't played the games in Japanese, but you can tell from how he's drawn that he's meant to be an American soldier.
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ok that proves hes really american. I guess in the japanese for Fantina she would also be american.
I thought Fatina was (according to her accent in the English versions; not sure about Japanese) French? She peppers her speech with French words and phrases...


But on topic, mostly, yeah... Lt. Surge is American, as it has already been pointed out. ^^;

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Ash: You're not American! You're not even wearing a flag on your head.
Lt. Surge: You're right. I must have left it back home. In America.
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I thought Fatina was (according to her accent in the English versions; not sure about Japanese) French? She peppers her speech with French words and phrases...
I believe she was made French for the American release. Her Japanese name is Merisa/Melissa, which is American. At least that's what I heard.

Back on topic, the Japanese screencap pretty much verifies that Surge is American. Does anyone know if he uses American phrases when you speak to him in the Japanese version?

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Not at all. In my fan-fiction's universe, America is a very real part of the world - my main character's even from South Carolina! With Lt. Surge an American, it clearly shows that the Pokemon canon (game-wise, at least) agrees that America does exist in the Pokemon world.

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Back on topic, the Japanese screencap pretty much verifies that Surge is American. Does anyone know if he uses American phrases when you speak to him in the Japanese version?
English words are sprinkled throughout the text, and he uses occasional phrases like “Poor little boy” composed entirely of English words.
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I think all of the real world references they make in the games (they made them especially in the original games and as such the remakes) kind of ruin the Pokemon mythology for me. Mew being found in South American is ridiculous, and Lt. Surge being an American, etc... All of the Pokemon games take place in made up regions of a nation and at this point are now featuring Pokemon that control space and time, Pokemon that helped create the universe (Mesprit, Azelf, Uxie), and a Pokemon deity (Arceus). Referencing the real world ruins this, because they're now making Pokemon practically a religion in the games. It ruins the fantasy.

See Final Fantasy games, Lord of the Rings, etc. for good examples of fantasy worlds. Pokemon doesn't cut it.
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I think all of the real world references they make in the games (they made them especially in the original games and as such the remakes) kind of ruin the Pokemon mythology for me. Mew being found in South American is ridiculous, and Lt. Surge being an American, etc... All of the Pokemon games take place in made up regions of a nation and at this point are now featuring Pokemon that control space and time, Pokemon that helped create the universe (Mesprit, Azelf, Uxie), and a Pokemon deity (Arceus). Referencing the real world ruins this, because they're now making Pokemon practically a religion in the games. It ruins the fantasy.

See Final Fantasy games, Lord of the Rings, etc. for good examples of fantasy worlds. Pokemon doesn't cut it.
I always thought that the Pokemon world was some sort of earth. I mean, it has animals, plants, cultures and other things that are found here so why not.
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I think all of the real world references they make in the games (they made them especially in the original games and as such the remakes) kind of ruin the Pokemon mythology for me. Mew being found in South American is ridiculous, and Lt. Surge being an American, etc... All of the Pokemon games take place in made up regions of a nation and at this point are now featuring Pokemon that control space and time, Pokemon that helped create the universe (Mesprit, Azelf, Uxie), and a Pokemon deity (Arceus). Referencing the real world ruins this, because they're now making Pokemon practically a religion in the games. It ruins the fantasy.

See Final Fantasy games, Lord of the Rings, etc. for good examples of fantasy worlds. Pokemon doesn't cut it.
I hate to break it to you, but all of the regions in the main RPG's are based on real locations. For example Kanto is based on the real-life Kanto in Japan and Orre is based on the state of Arizona.
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Kantou is a place in Japan, just as it is in the Pokemon world.

Most people in the games with yellow hair are Americans. When you fight them they have English names like Johnny and Mike. They play a guitar and usually have electric Pokemon. At least in DP. I think they are from America. One of them speaks English when you talk to him (in Tobari City).
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Well now that it is Unanimously been said that Lt. Surge is American. Does anyone feel weird that knowing in the world of Pokemon there is America? Something about that just ruins the fantasy of Pokemon
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It's not strange. In the Pokémon world, the regions are all just replacing parts of our world, and those regions grew Pokemon. Or just that only them got Pokémon put into them. So it isn't weird. I hope.
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