YGO: Individual Card Discussion Page 25

Started by Mullet August 31st, 2004 6:31 PM
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Frostweaver

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Since we just went over an old card, let's stay within that era of YGO time ^_^



Used to be one of the most expensive cards ever... how about now? Can Yugioh finally make a deck-out type without using exchange of the spirits, or is it just a fuzzy little useless worm?
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Since we just went over an old card, let's stay within that era of YGO time ^_^



Used to be one of the most expensive cards ever... how about now? Can Yugioh finally make a deck-out type without using exchange of the spirits, or is it just a fuzzy little useless worm?
Well this did come out before Exchange of Spirts so deck out was thought of with this card first.

It's a good card in a mill deck. In fact really good in mill. Problem is if you run three and it get's hit by Nobleman (which has been limited to one, so it will be hard to Nobleman this little critter), then all three go. If you can take fifteen cards off your opponets deck it will give you an advantage though.

If played in mill it gets a 9.5/10.
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It has a less chance of getting hit by it but it can reuse it's effect much with 2 of the best face down cards restricted.

Neddle Worm deserves a 8.5/10

Too bad the deck has a less chance of suceeding a mill due to the restriction.
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Losing the 2 books really hurt needle worm =/ Same goes for the restricted jars too (well restricted is almost as bad as losing for this type of deck) Isn't jars+mill the only reason why Book of Taiyou is restricted in the first place, I think? I heard something about that...

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Exchange of the Spirit completely overshadows traditional methods to forcing an opponent to deck out (like needle worm)... it's not even funny =/ The only thing stopping Exchange of the Spirit is its rarity and how it's basically unobtainable at the moment.
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Exchange of the Spirit completely overshadows traditional methods to forcing an opponent to deck out (like needle worm)... it's not even funny =/ The only thing stopping Exchange of the Spirit is its rarity and how it's basically unobtainable at the moment.
I realize that. No one is playing Exchange or Spirt at big tournies, or at my local ones.:\

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The only thing stopping Exchange of the Spirit is its rarity and how it's basically unobtainable at the moment.
I guess that I should be glad that I have 15, then :D :D ...


...Nah, not really...but there ARE around 10 in my meta of around 15 people...
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Frostweaver

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Not really... needle worms need to work really fast because don't forget that you are helping the enemy by thinning their decks and dumping monsters into the graveyard for them. A lot of players try to do that on purpose. Unless the worms are quickly following each other on top of the help of the pots, your opponent can easily recover by special summoning stuff with a full graveyard (and a fair amount of decks can do something like this nowadays. Do you seriously want to give Bazoo even more stuff to remove, for example? Or, just the good old dump/recursion)

Can't say that it own all decks. It only works with some intense planning and consecutive card effects following one another to deck out your opponent.


(and what kind of rich neighborhood do you live in with 10 Exchange of the Spirits around? Tell me where you live so I can go Trick or Treat candies there. Those rich guys will probably give out cash on Halloween night <3)
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I Own one of the BLS-Envoy of the Beginning.
I'm sorry to say..but that is a little bit off topic.


Not really... needle worms need to work really fast because don't forget that you are helping the enemy by thinning their decks and dumping monsters into the graveyard for them. A lot of players try to do that on purpose. Unless the worms are quickly following each other on top of the help of the pots, your opponent can easily recover by special summoning stuff with a full graveyard (and a fair amount of decks can do something like this nowadays. Do you seriously want to give Bazoo even more stuff to remove, for example? Or, just the good old dump/recursion)

Can't say that it own all decks. It only works with some intense planning and consecutive card effects following one another to deck out your opponent.


(and what kind of rich neighborhood do you live in with 10 Exchange of the Spirits around? Tell me where you live so I can go Trick or Treat candies there. Those rich guys will probably give out cash on Halloween night <3)
Speaking of thinning.

Neddle Worm is a little similar to the Sixth Sense. Creature Swap your own and atack and that was a combo of thinning.

what was the point in saying that? I always wanted a Needle Worm, encountered it in my GBA gmae, It owned all decks
True. It could do good in the games the most but that in IRL opponent's are more thougher and harder than the programmed decks you know by heart. I agree very much because use it in my Dawn of Destiny and it works well. Like I said. Knowing your opponent's deck.

Whoa. I've seen lots of fusion monsters with that many attack points!!
Uhh...which fusion monster?

Neddle Worm may not work well not because of the Bazoo decks and also decks like Strike Ninja and can realy backfire if you discard all of your opponent bad topdecks. =/

New card speaking of thinning.

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I guess that we are suppose to comment on it without looking at Water Dragon?

A must have for all dinosaur decks, simply because there are no other dinosaurs. Now with that aside, water decks don't really need to deck out so badly (doubt you'll be THAT desperate for using salvage) and they got better things to do. It's relatively not that impressive to only be at 1800 after ALO boost. Classical nimble momonga will do much better at decking out, because being destroyed is easier than destroy something else.

If we're talking about Water Dragon... it's a risky monster because it's 4 cards to pull out the Dragon, although Hydrogeddon helps slightly with its effect. The water dragon swamps the field after it's destroyed, but you'll need another H2O bonding in order to keep the "invincible field presense" going (continous bond, break out, bond again, etc.) It's one of those situations where you really need pot of avarice/magician of faith to get back the H2O bonding, and pot can always reclaim one of the monsters if anything goes wrong.
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Nope. Just it alone.

I got this card on sunday and I tried it out. I found out 3 things about it. It can be a bad topdeck. It does not work well in 3,s and you need to make sure that you can atack the monster

Hydrogedon has a chance to prove it self good. Unlike cards like Nimble Momonga..it takes timing. It has a lot of potenital of a monster, it is also offensive and defensive. It can be quicker depending on the game. Outside a Water Dragon is could provide some good field control. Also it can counter those Tomato or Rat control or any searcher deck because it could also destroy the searched monster when it's summoned. It's a great card. It just needs to be notice and used right. It could change the game.

It's a good beat stick overall.

My rating.

Traditional:2.7
Avdanced: 3.4
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ALO got better choices/options... >>;

And seriously I won't use 2 slots in my deck for a situational card just to fight against elemental searchers. It is just awful if top-decked, and it's so situational that most of the time you can't afford to "wait for the good opportunity" anymore, and just end up throwing it in defense mode.