Do you agree with abortion/euthanasia?

Started by Enfys47 March 12th, 2009 9:02 AM
  • 2732 views
  • 90 replies
  • Poll

Do you agree with abortion or euthanasia?

Channel Islands
Seen March 13th, 2010
Posted March 28th, 2009
20 posts
14.2 Years
NB - This is for a school project and is not intended to start a PC war. I hope you will all respect other's opinions.

For GCSE RS, we have been discussing voluntary euthanasia and abortion. I am supposed to fill in a survey, saying if people agree with one, neither or both.
If you want to leave a comment, please do, but say what you voted in the poll.

Personally, I don't agree with abortion, as I don't think it's right to kill something that a) had a chance to live or b) had a chance to protest. However, I do agree with euthanasia - I think it's often kinder to put someone to sleep than make them live in pain, and if we can do it to animals, why not humans? (Note that I put humans on the same level as animals, as technically we are animals.)

Any views?


Pearl FC: 4038-7865-0969
Seen September 23rd, 2010
Posted August 31st, 2009
167 posts
14.3 Years
I'm personally only for Euthanasia and only when it's voluntary - if people want to take away their own lives, that's fine. I mean, it takes some serious suffering to become so desperate. Just imagine for yourself how bad it must get if you suffer from something like "Motor Neurone Disease" - you literally degenerate whilst you're still living. Your muscle disappears and your brain capacity disintergrates until you become comatose - what kind of life is that? Is it not better if a person wishes to die in dignity than go into such a shocking state? :(

Abortion, on the other hand... I don't believe it's right for a life to be taken away... I mean, if the mother doesn't want the baby, at least put it up for adoption? I mean, what good does killing it do? All you are doing is taking away a life that has the potential to accomplish something great. Imagine if that baby, when they grew up, discovered a vital cure, became a popular musician or really achieved something special? For me, it's morally repugnant to kill the child just because the Mother can't be bothered or doesn't want the child.
Age 30
Male
New York City
Seen May 21st, 2016
Posted May 16th, 2016
3,597 posts
15.9 Years
You have to admit though that sometimes abortion is necessary, such as in situations when the baby would cause the mother to die, when the mother knows she will pass on some life-threatening trait, or when simply the mother cannot bear the child because pregnancy would interfere with maintaining her own life.

Definitely not for some eugenics purpose or anything, though.

Euthanasia is okay like in the aforementioned situation. I'd prefer morphine, though.
lurid/lucid

"I want to tear myself from this place, from this reality, rise up like a cloud and float away, melt into this humid summer night and dissolve somewhere far, over the hills. But I am here, my legs blocks of concrete, my lungs empty of air, my throat burning. There will be no floating away."

Khaled Hosseini

→ Refresh for a different picture
→ White FC: Haruka 0347 0171 1756


whoever disabled my signature:
my signature is not even close to 300px tall.
i dont understand why it was disabled.

kissing. raindrops

just jump, you might fly <3

Age 30
Female
Canada
Seen July 24th, 2012
Posted August 24th, 2011
1,474 posts
14.9 Years
I dunno what euthanasia is, but I agree with abortion, there's nothing wrong with it in my opinion.

i wanna be the wind that fills your sails,
& be the hand that lifts your veil.
& be the moon that moves your tide,
the sun coming up in your eyes.
be the wheels that never rust,
& be the spark that lights you up.
all that you've been dreaming of and more,
so much more, i wanna be your everything.. <3

paired with alternative <3
Age 30
Male
New York City
Seen May 21st, 2016
Posted May 16th, 2016
3,597 posts
15.9 Years
Youth in Asia is comprised of Asian denizens who have not yet passed the rites that make them adults.

*cough*
Basically, it's mercy killing, to put it bluntly.
lurid/lucid

"I want to tear myself from this place, from this reality, rise up like a cloud and float away, melt into this humid summer night and dissolve somewhere far, over the hills. But I am here, my legs blocks of concrete, my lungs empty of air, my throat burning. There will be no floating away."

Khaled Hosseini

→ Refresh for a different picture
→ White FC: Haruka 0347 0171 1756


whoever disabled my signature:
my signature is not even close to 300px tall.
i dont understand why it was disabled.
Age 30
ⓢⓔⓒⓡⓔⓣ
Seen June 6th, 2011
Posted August 3rd, 2009
203 posts
15.4 Years
Youth in Asia is comprised of Asian denizens who have not yet passed the rites that make them adults.

*cough*
Basically, it's mercy killing, to put it bluntly.
Haha, very funny. To put it even more bluntly, it's practically assisted suicide

I only agree with euthanasia only if the person who wants to die is bound to die. And for abortion? Only when the baby is bound to die in it's first years of life

In brief, I only say yes to both of them only if they're gonna die anways


LoaferBoyzX
No Moos were harmed during the creation of this manga.
Age 30
Male
New York City
Seen May 21st, 2016
Posted May 16th, 2016
3,597 posts
15.9 Years
Haha, very funny. To put it even more bluntly, it's practically assisted suicide

I only agree with euthanasia only if the person who wants to die is bound to die. And for abortion? Only when the baby is bound to die in it's first years of life

In brief, I only say yes to both of them only if they're gonna die anways


LoaferBoyzX
Euthanasia is usually performed on patients who cannot decide for themselves anyway (due to a mental disorder, prolonged sleep, etc.). Sometimes the person consents prior to their disposition just in case and sometimes (if undecided) the decision is made by a proxy.

In this way, euthanasia isn't really suicide - that would be if a person straight up told the doctor to kill them. Regardless though, I'd a terminal, conscious person would rather be shot up by morphine and spend their last few breaths having fuuuunnnnnnn rather than just up and die.

Er, strictly speaking, euthanasia is just facilitated demise under the guidance of another party. What's being detailed is probably the medical application (the one I'm referring to).
lurid/lucid

"I want to tear myself from this place, from this reality, rise up like a cloud and float away, melt into this humid summer night and dissolve somewhere far, over the hills. But I am here, my legs blocks of concrete, my lungs empty of air, my throat burning. There will be no floating away."

Khaled Hosseini

→ Refresh for a different picture
→ White FC: Haruka 0347 0171 1756


whoever disabled my signature:
my signature is not even close to 300px tall.
i dont understand why it was disabled.

BHwolfgang

kamikorosu

Age 28
Male
Virginia
Seen February 24th, 2014
Posted May 9th, 2013
3,905 posts
14.2 Years
I consider euthanasia as suicide. I mean, if they are willing to die, then...

If a woman has a baby, then she should keep it, but it depends on the woman. I mean, if she is raped or embarrassed, then I can't really say anything about it (as I have nothing to say), but c'mon.

This is a baby we're discussing about. Would you kill an innocent being for just being ashamed?
Seen May 31st, 2009
Posted May 25th, 2009
2,134 posts
15.1 Years
I agree with euthanasia only, as a whole, however, there are some cases of abortion in which I can see it being justified. If a woman is raped, she is having this baby against her will. That's certainly not fair that she should have to have this baby because it would be "unethical" to abort it.

Stupid teenagers who don't know how to utilize safe sex, I have no sympathy for.

Yamikarasu

Wannabe Hasbeen

Age 29
Male
On the Battle Subway to Anville Town.
Seen October 22nd, 2012
Posted December 18th, 2011
1,199 posts
14.9 Years
*facepalm* not another one...

I think abortion should be allowed, but not encouraged.

I think euthanasia should be allowed with the patient's consent. The patient should be given a few months to think about their decision, and if they still want to end their life, then they should be allowed to, without anybody making them feel bad about it. I think it is a good idea for everyone to tell someone they trust what they want to have happen to them if they become in a vegetative state. I, for one, would certainly want to be killed if my body ended up like that.

Those are my opinions, hope it helped your project.

White FC: 0046 2399 7625


Melody

Banned

Female
Cuddling those close to me
Seen March 4th, 2018
Posted March 2nd, 2018
6,459 posts
18.6 Years
I am against abortion unless there's a compelling medical reason for it.
When the thread author says 'euthanasia', I'm assuming he/she means putting down an animal for population control/medical reasons.

I am for euthanasia because I dont see animals like I do humans. However I do feel that euthanasia should be avoided at all costs despite the fact that I don't mind it, animals have just as much right to live, but I fully understand that sometimes the presence of humans and civilization in general pose a real health risk to the population of both the animals and humans alike. I do not believe that god disapproves of us cultivating the land and redirecting the animal population somewhere safely away from humans, so they are not unnecessarily harmed.

Her

Age 29
Seen 4 Hours Ago
Posted 4 Days Ago
If the person has honestly nothing to live for, then I'm all for euthanasia. But not if they're just really depressed in their teens, that'd be sick. Only in old age, thanks.
Male
Seen 4 Days Ago
Posted August 21st, 2021
5,853 posts
17 Years
Why lump the two together? They're not at all the same.
Both involve killing the weak and/or removing an unwanted burden.

What kind of society are we if we can't even protect the weakest of us? And people wonder why we have wars and violence :(

To answer your question, I'm absolutely against abortion (unless the mother's life is in danger), and I'm against active euthanasia. If delaying someone's death is only causing suffering and pain, then their life should just be allowed to take it's course rather than prolong it.

Plus if I was old and frail and euthanasia was legal, I'd be scared to go to the hospital.

txteclipse

The Last

Age 32
Riverside
Seen March 23rd, 2023
Posted November 2nd, 2016
2,322 posts
15.7 Years
When the thread author says 'euthanasia', I'm assuming he/she means putting down an animal for population control/medical reasons.
Yeah, I shouldn't read threads backwards. I thought this at first too, but OP says otherwise. Consider my vote to be "neither."

And Drifloon pretty much summed up my sentiments on both matters.
Age 30
Male
New York City
Seen May 21st, 2016
Posted May 16th, 2016
3,597 posts
15.9 Years
Plus if I was old and frail and euthanasia was legal, I'd be scared to go to the hospital.
Well, they wouldn't kill you unless you or a family member gave them the "okay".
And if you said beforehand that you didn't want it, they can't do it anyways.
lurid/lucid

"I want to tear myself from this place, from this reality, rise up like a cloud and float away, melt into this humid summer night and dissolve somewhere far, over the hills. But I am here, my legs blocks of concrete, my lungs empty of air, my throat burning. There will be no floating away."

Khaled Hosseini

→ Refresh for a different picture
→ White FC: Haruka 0347 0171 1756


whoever disabled my signature:
my signature is not even close to 300px tall.
i dont understand why it was disabled.
Male
Seen 4 Days Ago
Posted August 21st, 2021
5,853 posts
17 Years
Well, they wouldn't kill you unless you or a family member gave them the "okay".
And if you said beforehand that you didn't want it, they can't do it anyways.
A family member aye? You'd be cool with that? If they have power of attorney, they can do whatever they want on your behalf. Plus once you're dead that's it, you can't say that they killed you without your permission.

Your "okay" doesn't mean jack when you're dead.

http://opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=95000390
Many old people now fear Dutch hospitals. More than 10% of senior citizens who responded to a recent survey, which did not mention euthanasia, volunteered that they feared being killed by their doctors without their consent. One senior-citizen group printed up wallet cards that tell doctors that the cardholder opposes euthanasia.
Age 38
Seen September 19th, 2009
Posted August 20th, 2009
261 posts
14.7 Years
abortion-no, since there is an alternative(adoption) even though some might say it's not a human being, it WILL become a human being
euthanasia-only if the euthanized is fully aware of the consequences and able to make a choice, if not, the choice should be made by a competent physician and only if there is no chance of restoring functionality to the individual

I'm a silly linoone^^
Need aid?, you can call me, I'm often on MSN :3
Proud owner of the Zigzagoon/linoone fanclub! click bottom banner (made by korinku) to visit^^

Penguin13

Mountain Dew, Elixir of Life.

Age 33
Mililani, Oahu, Hawaii
Seen July 28th, 2010
Posted April 3rd, 2010
443 posts
14.3 Years
What kind of society are we if we can't even protect the weakest of us?

What kind of society are we when we celebrate the weak and help them thrive?

A great example is of a disorder I totally forgot the name of. Before there were treatments for it, all of the people afflicted with it would die during their childhood, thus effectively removing the disorder from their gene pool. The disorder would've eventually become so rare, that when it did pop up, it would be a big event. But now that there's treatment for it, those afflicted are now able to live to about 30, having been able to have gotten married and had a child, possibly passing it on. Now, there's (percentage-wise) a LOT more cases of the disorder.
Freedom is the freedom to say two plus two equals four. If that is granted all else will follow.
Age 28
In the Medium
Seen August 11th, 2016
Posted August 15th, 2011
381 posts
14.9 Years
What people don't get is that adoption isn't like in those old Disney classics where you get whisked away to some home with a loving family and live happily ever after. Most adoption centers are packed with unwanted children. Living conditions are overall poor; most children don't even get an education. In America especially, children who are non-white or unhealthy rarely get adopted and they have to spend the rest of their life in misery.

Then there's overpopulation. We already have six billion people in our planet and that number is increasing by millions every month. Birth control is becoming a necessity; an abnormaly large population is a liability for a countries economy and shoving children into adoption centers isn't going to change anything.

A common pro-life argument is that the person might become famous, become a genius, cure AIDs or something. But these people don't understand that the child has the same chance of becoming the next Hitler or Stalin or whatever. Imagine how much bloodshed could have been prevented if Hitler's mother decided to abort him.

What I don't get is why people equate the parasitic 'life' of a foetus to a living breathing human being.

I am also for Euthanasia. If a person wants to die with dignity instead of meeting his end as the victim of some horrible disease then I believe he or she has every right too. But I don't believe that the decision should be made hastily. The person should consult with doctors and his/her family members before deciding.
someday, someone might just best me
but it won't be today, and it won't be you
cosmo | justinguitar
Age 38
Seen September 19th, 2009
Posted August 20th, 2009
261 posts
14.7 Years
What people don't get is that adoption isn't like in those old Disney classics where you get whisked away to some home with a loving family and live happily ever after. Most adoption centers are packed with unwanted children. Living conditions are overall poor; most children don't even get an education. In America especially, children who are non-white or unhealthy rarely get adopted and they have to spend the rest of their life in misery.

Then there's overpopulation. We already have six billion people in our planet and that number is increasing by millions every month. Birth control is becoming a necessity; an abnormaly large population is a liability for a countries economy and shoving children into adoption centers isn't going to change anything.

A common pro-life argument is that the person might become famous, become a genius, cure AIDs or something. But these people don't understand that the child has the same chance of becoming the next Hitler or Stalin or whatever. Imagine how much bloodshed could have been prevented if Hitler's mother decided to abort him.

What I don't get is why people equate the parasitic 'life' of a foetus to a living breathing human being.

I am also for Euthanasia. If a person wants to die with dignity instead of meeting his end as the victim of some horrible disease then I believe he or she has every right too. But I don't believe that the decision should be made hastily. The person should consult with doctors and his/her family members before deciding.
your argument has some thruths, however, comparing having a hard life and dying, well, I'd choose the hard life, I'm all for birth control(morning after pill, contraceptives, condoms, that kind of thing, which is different from killing something which already is alive, maybe it's "parasitic" but will become a person in little time, remember that.

I'm a silly linoone^^
Need aid?, you can call me, I'm often on MSN :3
Proud owner of the Zigzagoon/linoone fanclub! click bottom banner (made by korinku) to visit^^