DS games to have DSi exclusivity features.

Started by Mitchman March 25th, 2009 1:06 PM
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It depends on how the games are coded. I'd like to see Nintendo insert some code at boot-time for each cart to determine what system is being used, if it's a DSi then all the DSi exclusive features would be available.

I'm not saying we can't have some games that are exclusively for the DSi, but I do want 100% backwards compatibility too, so that way you can still play DS games with embedded DSi functions.

I'm wondering if the DSi carts will be compatible with the DS or not. I wouldn't complain if some DSi games were DS compatible, without the DSi functions avalible. (Basic gameplay only, no camera, no SD card functions, using a DS compatible game engine)
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Haha oh wow Nintendo. Never failing to amuse me.
I swear that if the next Pokémon game is a DSi exclusive, I'm so selling my Wii. And not to buy a DSi.

I'm wondering if the DSi carts will be compatible with the DS or not. I wouldn't complain if some DSi games were DS compatible, without the DSi functions avalible. (Basic gameplay only, no camera, no SD card functions, using a DS compatible game engine)
They talked about two kinds of DSi cards- the one with 'extra' DSi stuff, compatible with all DS, and the 'DSi exclusive' ones.

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Wait until for it to actually happen before making bane accusations, Nitrous Oxide.

On a brighter note, I can't wait to see what Nintendo has offer us with the DSi. Hopefully they'll make games that utilize all the features - more than what the article is pointing out.

Based on the demo at Gamestop, messing with DSi's features alone was amusing to mess with; not to mention the addition of the SD card slot adds more potential.
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Hooray for Nintendo gimmicks. Just when we thought we were safe, they throw us more.
At least nintendo are trying to get somewhere with gaming...not just give you a bog standard controller and some games to press some buttons with.


Even though I don't think this is going to be too much of an amazing thing..They're basically editing old DS games that people already have, so that they can buy them again and therefore ninetendo make more money.
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I wasn't looking foreward to the DSi because of the fact of it's inability to play GBA games. New games with new DSi features would be nice, but don't try to give me a reason to throw away my Lite. In fact, I play GBA games more often than DS games on my Lite *coughGoldenSuncoughhackcough*.

So, if they were exclusive to the DSi, I would not be happy, mainly because after a while ALL games would be exclusive to it. Meaning my Lite wouldn't have much of a purpose.

I don't see why Nintendo is doing this other than to try to make us feed them money into their already wide financial stomach.

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I wasn't looking foreward to the DSi because of the fact of it's inability to play GBA games. New games with new DSi features would be nice, but don't try to give me a reason to throw away my Lite. In fact, I play GBA games more often than DS games on my Lite *coughGoldenSuncoughhackcough*.

So, if they were exclusive to the DSi, I would not be happy, mainly because after a while ALL games would be exclusive to it. Meaning my Lite wouldn't have much of a purpose.

I don't see why Nintendo is doing this other than to try to make us feed them money into their already wide financial stomach.
You're going to have to accept the fact that someday, developers are going to start neglecting the original DS in favor of the DSi. It's all part of the transition to the next generation.
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At least nintendo are trying to get somewhere with gaming...not just give you a bog standard controller and some games to press some buttons with.


Even though I don't think this is going to be too much of an amazing thing..They're basically editing old DS games that people already have, so that they can buy them again and therefore ninetendo make more money.
Instead Nintendo gives us a fall finished remote and some games for us to wave it at.

I think this is a ridiculous idea. I mean, DSi itself is just a mix between DS and PSP.

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You're going to have to accept the fact that someday, developers are going to start neglecting the original DS in favor of the DSi. It's all part of the transition to the next generation.
Would they? What exactly can it do that the DS can't? There's no boost in power or graphics or anything. It's a DS with a camera that doesn't do much of anything gameplay wise.

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Yes, TRIFORCE is right. They've done this once with the Gameboy Color too.
Mmm...well, eventually there were GBC-exclusive games. But, there was a point to these. For example, more available colours or colour-based puzzles.

The DSi is just the DS with a Game Boy Camera attached

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Which annoys me and pretty much everyone I know. Most people I know that the lack of a dual slot feature can destroy some important game play features, such as Pokemon's PalPark. And the whole "yay it's Golden Sun OH WAIT THE STYLUS DOESN'T WORK FOR GBA GAMES" experience is too much to let go of. I know that some day this technology will become obsolete, but admit it - who here stopped playing Silver/Gold/Crystal solely because the DS couldn't support it? You played it on an older version of it, namely the GBA.

It's really the consumer's choice that tells which way for Nintendo to go. If the DSi is a flop, then that will tell Nintendo something.

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Which annoys me and pretty much everyone I know. Most people I know that the lack of a dual slot feature can destroy some important game play features, such as Pokemon's PalPark. And the whole "yay it's Golden Sun OH WAIT THE STYLUS DOESN'T WORK FOR GBA GAMES" experience is too much to let go of. I know that some day this technology will become obsolete, but admit it - who here stopped playing Silver/Gold/Crystal solely because the DS couldn't support it? You played it on an older version of it, namely the GBA.

It's really the consumer's choice that tells which way for Nintendo to go. If the DSi is a flop, then that will tell Nintendo something.
Then keep playing your old systems. Why should they continue to support games that they no longer sell or manufacture. What input from the consumer could they possibly get that would tell them to have a GBA slot on future system? The GBA is over, it's not like GBA game sales are going to tell them something.

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No, that's not what I meant. I meant that if people do NOT buy the DSi, but rather buy the DS lite or something they will most likely notice that something's causing the consumers to prefer the lite.
Dual slot, mebbe?

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This is very reminiscent of the early GBC days. Super Game Boy enhanced titles retained most of their limited colour palettes on the GBC. Games were released to work on both the GBC and the original Game Boy save for a few features - i.e.: Link's Awakening had a Colour-only dungeon with colour-based puzzles.

When the GBA came along, some games had exclusive features when played on the GBA. Play the Zelda Oracles game on the GBA and you have access to an extra shop.

That's about it really. You're not going to miss much of anything. If you really want to take a picture to use as your emblem in a future Mario Kart game than go buy a DSi.
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Then keep playing your old systems. Why should they continue to support games that they no longer sell or manufacture. What input from the consumer could they possibly get that would tell them to have a GBA slot on future system? The GBA is over, it's not like GBA game sales are going to tell them something.
Playstation3 plays PS1 games. So i don't see why DSi w/GBA slot would be unwelcomed.

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Playstation3 plays PS1 games. So i don't see why DSi w/GBA slot would be unwelcomed.
But all the PlayStation consoles use discs. So, for it to be backwards compatible it only requires one loading area for all the different kinds of disc.

Mind you that's also not always the case. It depends on the hardware. The original DS wasn't backwards compatible with GBC games as it lacked the processor that was present on the GB through to the GBA.

The 360 cannot play original Xbox games unless you download a patch that makes it emulation compatible.

In effort to add cameras and make the device slightly smaller you lost the ability to play old games.

It's not like you have to get rid of you DSlite. If you like playing GBA on it, then keep doing so.

I mean, I think it's stupid too. Lots of accessories use it, but whatever.

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Seeing this still doesn't perk my interest in getting a DSi. I still don't know ANY of the features it will have. I would like to get another DS in case my current one decides to die on me, which will never happen because I take care of my systems.

I don't know about this. I'm still up in the air regarding the DSi.
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I mean, DSi itself is just a mix between DS and PSP.
This is how I view the DSi, as well... and I have a perfectly fine PSP already. Not to mention I only replaced my DS in January...

As for the explained content that the games would have... I'm not overly impressed, to be honest. At the moment, the only explained enhancement mentioned is the texture creation with photos. Not an earth-breaking development, but I suppose I'll give them the fact that it is somewhat of an advancement, nonetheless...

But with that, I'm still not moved to actually purchase a DSi for a feature I'll very likely never use, because of the fact that it isn't good enough to bother with or the fact that I don't even have the game the enhancement is for. Not to mention the lack of a GBA slot shifted my thoughts on the console a great deal.

At the moment, it just looks like Nintendo trying the bigger straw to suck more of us in... but we all owe it to Nintendo to see what other enhancements they have in mind for future updates on this feature...
I'm on the fence overall, though; the DSi just doesn't impress me enough for me to get one.

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I'll have to agree with that. Personally, I'm going to hold out on getting a DSi until I see for myself what kind of launch titles the DSi is going to have, what kind of features they've got planned for it and what capabilities it has over the DS besides two silly cameras and an SD card slot to ensure storage for your photos.

Now I wouldn't mind a virtual console thing on the DSi but, I'm not that much into the old school games to want to take them with me. Honestly, I don't even get to have enough face time with my Wii because I prefer being online anyhow. (Not that I can't do that on the wii, but I think I've properly explored it's potential as a system. It's certainly nice but, playing the thing is a bit tiring, which is a bit of a putoff because I'm a marathon gamer, I'll sit down and try to complete a game over a 2-14 day period, and with the wii that just isn't possible with all the arm waving and remote wielding involved. >_>)
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I say that we can welcome a VC for gb titles that has connectivity features hopefully that trick the game and system into that. If not then meh whatever im still getting one cause i just want one. I say be on top while you can. And I will cause im not missing out on any features if gsds comes along with any or even Spirit tracks. Hopefully spirit tracks has something i like to call internal saving. Just cause i want to download a 100% save file with everything. Also it seems that it will most likely will be as its much more smoother and a bit faster then PH cause of the probable ram boost for the game. YES!

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I say that we can welcome a VC for gb titles that has connectivity features hopefully that trick the game and system into that.
Oh great, so we get the luxury of buying all the GBA titles we already own... AGAIN!

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