What moves should/shouldn't be TMs/HMS?

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Here, you can post what you think should be TMs or HMs, and what shouldn't be TMs or HMs.

IMO, I think some wicked moves that could really work as TMs would be:
- Extrasensory (My personal favorite)
- Perish Song
- Bullet Punch
- Ice Shard
- Grasswhistle
- Fake Out

Also, what TMs should not be there would be:
- Cut

There aren't many TMS/HMs that I would consider getting rid of, but I want your opinions.

What moves should or should not be TMs/HMs?

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Ugh, they need to dump Flash. I hate that move, even if it's only a TM now. Defog, Cut, Rock Smash, and Rock Climb are worthless too.

I agree with Bullet Punch and Extrasensory being TMs, as they're such rare yet cool moves. Other favorites would be:

- Tri Attack
- Seismic Toss
- Softboiled
- Leaf Blade
- Spore

Hey, the first 3 worked for RBY, why not DPPt? XD

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Honestly I think they should just dump the HM crap >_> Or make them secondary abilities you can teach your Pokemon that don't take up a damn attack slot.

Or is that just me? :(
But it adds an element of strategy when you have to compromise on movesets to accommodate HMs. You can always delete them after finishing the game and use slaves.

Should be TMs:
  • Hypnosis (the most "normal" kind of sleeping move, and not with a broken 100% accuracy)
  • Earth Power
  • Elemental Punches
  • Tri-Attack (or any other Special Normal)
  • Flame Wheel
  • Spark
  • Shadow Claw
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I think Hydro Pump should be a TM, since we have Fire Blast, Thunder and Blizzard, or is it just me?
I think Twister. For some reason, i can see Cut as a TM :\ I also think they should bring back Whirlpool as a TM/HM with a field ability, just for nostalgia. :D
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there's one HM we can all agree needs to go,and if it's still an HM in the next,we will burn down nintendo.
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I THOUGHT THIS WAS THE BEST SPOT FOR THIS THREAD. IF YOU FIND THAT IT IS IN THE WRONG PLACE, PLEASE MOVE/LOCK IT.

Here, you can post what you think should be TMs or HMs, and what shouldn't be TMs or HMs.

IMO, I think some wicked moves that could really work as TMs would be:
- Extrasensory (My personal favorite)
- Perish Song
- Bullet Punch
- Ice Shard
- Grasswhistle
- Fake Out

Also, what TMs should not be there would be:
- Cut

There aren't many TMS/HMs that I would consider getting rid of, but I want your opinions.

What moves should or should not be TMs/HMs?
what about defog.seriously,flash is more useful than defog in diamond and pearl.and considering it's only used in an optional dungeon,that says something

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Ugh, they need to dump Flash. I hate that move, even if it's only a TM now. Defog, Cut, Rock Smash, and Rock Climb are worthless too.

I agree with Bullet Punch and Extrasensory being TMs, as they're such rare yet cool moves. Other favorites would be:

- Tri Attack
- Seismic Toss
- Softboiled
- Leaf Blade
- Spore

Hey, the first 3 worked for RBY, why not DPPt? XD
Softboiled could only be learned by Chansey and Mew. The former learns it naturally, now. The latter is banned from tournaments and can Recover, so making Softboiled a TM just for them is kind of worthless.

Leaf Blade is a more rare (and used to be a signature move), but it could potentially fill the void of physical grass TMs.

Spore is a signature move, and I'd not want to see it on many other Pokemon besides Parasect competitively.

Tri-Attack and Seismic Toss would be welcome returns.
Honestly I think they should just dump the HM crap >_> Or make them secondary abilities you can teach your Pokemon that don't take up a damn attack slot.

Or is that just me? :(
I actually had an idea where there could be HM slots, where you could teach Pokemon a limited number of HMs that they could only use in the field. You could teach them HMs to use in battle, as well, but ones in these HM slots would be field only. Two per Pokemon would be nice. Though this was from my plotting for a MMO Pokemon game, where you wouldn't want an HM slave in the game, as you could be challenged by a real person anywhere.
But it adds an element of strategy when you have to compromise on movesets to accommodate HMs. You can always delete them after finishing the game and use slaves.

Should be TMs:
  • Hypnosis (the most "normal" kind of sleeping move, and not with a broken 100% accuracy)
  • Earth Power
  • Elemental Punches
  • Tri-Attack (or any other Special Normal)
  • Flame Wheel
  • Spark
  • Shadow Claw
Shadow Claw is a TM?

Earth Power would be nice.

Elemental punches or fangs would be a nice TM addition, or just keep both sets as a move tutor.
I miss Whirpool being a HM D:

Flash, headbutt (when you could use them on trees to find heracross, etc), and other usefull TMs, should be HMs.
The reason Whirlpool is gone, is that there's been no use for it since Johto.

Headbutting for Pokemon is fun. Flash is not a good HM, though; neither would Headbutt be. It'd neat if they brought back Headbutt trees, but instead you could use any sort of semi-powerful physical attack on the trees to knock out Pokemon. Just my two cents.

I'd love to see some lower level Poison TMs. All the Poison TMs are ever Toxic, Sludge Bomb, or Poison Jab. Maybe throw Sludge or Poison Tail into the mix for lower level Pokemon while playing through the game.

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Softboiled could only be learned by Chansey and Mew. The former learns it naturally, now. The latter is banned from tournaments and can Recover, so making Softboiled a TM just for them is kind of worthless.

Leaf Blade is a more rare (and used to be a signature move), but it could potentially fill the void of physical grass TMs.

Spore is a signature move, and I'd not want to see it on many other Pokemon besides Parasect competitively.

Tri-Attack and Seismic Toss would be welcome returns.
I want Softboiled for Clefable, as it is a vital move to some sets; however, it is difficult to already IV breed in Emerald and then hope for Magic Guard (you can't determine its ability until you Palpark it). Softboiled could work for Togekiss too. It may be worthless as only a couple pokemon can learn it, so I could settle for a tutor.. Mew cannot learn Recover but Roost instead.

Breloom gets Spore too, and it is a destructive move. Hypnosis is kinda pitiful in Platinum.

The Elemental Punches are only TMs in GSC but they may be tutored in Emerald/Platinum.

Flare Blitz for TM... -runs-

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Ugh, they need to dump Flash. I hate that move, even if it's only a TM now. Defog, Cut, Rock Smash, and Rock Climb are worthless too.

I agree with Bullet Punch and Extrasensory being TMs, as they're such rare yet cool moves. Other favorites would be:

- Tri Attack
- Seismic Toss
- Softboiled
- Leaf Blade
- Spore

Hey, the first 3 worked for RBY, why not DPPt? XD
Goddammit, Seismic Toss should be a TM again, I don't wanna spend time getting 24 BP and breeding a Blissey on Emerald just to get Seismic Toss Blissey for my team >_>
As for Spore... everything would be too broken, IMO.
-Bullet Punch
-Nasty Plot
^these should be TMs nao.


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Non-TM's that should be TM's:

-The three elemental punches
-Earth Power
-Outrage
-Seed Bomb
-Nasty Plot
-Agility
-Amnesia
-Barrier / Iron Defense
-Acupressure
-Hypnosis
-Heat Wave
-Seismic Toss
-Night Shade

Shouldn't be TM's:
-Recycle
-Fling
-Flash
-Natural Gift
-Cut
-Fly
-Strength
-Defog
-Rock Climb
-Rock Smash

I also agree with Rein in that HM's should be an ability, not an attack slot >_>
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I always felt that Snatch was a waste. I think that the move Baton Pass would be much more useful as a TM.

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I've always thought Snatch, Fling, Embargo, and Thief were pointless.

I vote for the almighty Metronome to be a TM.
Theif is great for nabbing items off wild Pokémon. It should stay.

Metronome would be a welcome return, too. I'd totally make a team around it. Hehehe.

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Baton Pass please. It would be incredibly helpful in all areas of the game.

Oh, and Flash needs to be taken out of the game. It is too horrible to be considered a move anyway.
Along with Defog and Sweet Scent.

I think that Defog was honestly the most pointless HM ever made. It's like Flash... but even MORE useless in battle...