Batman 3 villain's discussion.

Started by spike6958 April 19th, 2009 5:07 PM
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I have seen these topics all over the web but never here so i thought i would start one.

Who should be the villain(s) in Nolan's 3rd Batman movie, and who should play them?
I know allot of people are saying Johnny Depp would be a good Riddler, and as long as he wasn't made into a clone of Captain Jack (which is now the fear for most roles Depp plays) or be done like Jim Carrey's pathetic excuse for a Riddler(which i don't think we need to worry about) then i feel Depp would be a good choice and could fit into Nolan's world, however part of me really wants to see enemy's like Killer Croc, Mr Freeze, Bane and Clay Face, but not sure how they would fit into Nolan's more "realistic" Gotham, or who could play them if they did.

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I want to see female villains. Maybe Harley Quinn and Poison Ivy. The men are boring and way too cartoony.

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I want to see female villains. Maybe Harley Quinn and Poison Ivy. The men are boring and way too cartoony.
I really doubt Harley Quinn will appear in the series, her only way in is through Joker and with him not getting re-cast, it just wouldn't be right to bring her in, as for Poison Ivy she would work, but i think Catwoman would fit the series better, but clearly not as the main villain.
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Waiy how de we even know its the riddler that will be the villan? Or are we just guessing? Cause if we are guessing then cool. I do not want MR Freeze or the RIddler. I want Harley Quinn of course. Just the movie will not be right cause no more Joker. Its a really touchy matter that Ill have to come back to.
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I really doubt Harley Quinn will appear in the series, her only way in is through Joker and with him not getting re-cast, it just wouldn't be right to bring her in, as for Poison Ivy she would work, but i think Catwoman would fit the series better, but clearly not as the main villain.
You ever heard of copycat killers? They follow an accurate or semi accurate pattern of their criminal idol, they could easily do that for Harley, also Joker mentions having a wife at some point in his life.

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Yeah I think she could really be in it, without the Joker. Maybe she could be a minor part and Poison Ivy could be more involved, they have a relation anyway.

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Yeah I think she could really be in it, without the Joker. Maybe she could be a minor part and Poison Ivy could be more involved, they have a relation anyway.
I know its just a fun mock up but


I could EASILY see her in the current films.
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No question that design wise she could fit, it's just so hard to picture her not been at Jokers side, also the idea of copy-cat killing is lame, her been his wife could work but in the series Quinn was Jokers psychiatrist(sp?) and met him inside Arkham where she became obsessed with him, so anything like that couldn't happen without Joker (otherwise it wouldn't make any sense), so i doubt she will turn up, although i do agree it would be good.

Also to whoever asked it yes Riddler is just a theory as he is Batman's second most well know villain, and the fact that at times he tricked Gordon and the GCPD by trying to help them catch Batman, which distracted them from what he was doing, and with they way The Dark Knight ended that could well work.
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Yeah but Harley Quinn technically wasn't nor is she the wife. So we think. But yeah I would love bane to be in. Not just a stupid bash all bane but a smart bane. That would be wicked. But of course he would have a helper. But who? Maybe that sludge guy! Yeah that would be awesome.

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Yeah but Harley Quinn technically wasn't nor is she the wife. So we think. But yeah I would love bane to be in. Not just a stupid bash all bane but a smart bane. That would be wicked. But of course he would have a helper. But who? Maybe that sludge guy! Yeah that would be awesome.
Poison Ivy, didnt she make him like that anyway? And if they are going for realistic again, Penguin and Catwoman are the mist likely.

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Poison Ivy, didnt she make him like that anyway? And if they are going for realistic again, Penguin and Catwoman are the mist likely.
Actually Nolan has confirmed that he feels Penguin wouldn't fit into his vision of Gotham so he is a no go, but CatWoman has been hinted at a lot and Angelina Jolie is expected to play her.
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Last interview I read, they said they wanted to have a lot of villains this time (like with Two-Face and The Joker last movie). Apparently the original idea was to have it focused around Penguin, but seeing as he's too much of a comic relief character, that was cut. Now it looks like Harley Quinn or the Riddler, as everyone's already been saying.

Not like it matters. The third movie won't be able to compare to The Dark Knight. Not at all.

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Whatever WB execs are discussing doesn't mean much. Nolan isn't working on the next film right now. He wants to work on a film between the two. I'm sure Nolan has ideas but he's said that the stuff about Depp as the Riddler and Hoffman as the Penguin is just executive talk at the most. He'd love to work with either actor, but he doesn't want those characters. Penguin doesn't mesh with the Gotham Nolan is creating.

I'm hoping for Harley Quinn :B

The original idea was that we wouldn't see Two Face until the third film. At some point during the trial of the Joker, Dent gets disfigured. Obviously that's not going to happen for a variety of reasons. If Nolan had an idea for the next film while filming TDK, I think it's out the window now if the Joker was to be involved.
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From what i've heard its going to be the Riddler, and he is going to be played by Shyla Buff.. For those of you who dont know, he is the kid from disturbia, and Transformers.
Firstly, I doubt that very much, and secondly, it's spelled "Shia LaBeouf"... sorry, that's just my nitpicky side there.

I once saw an excellent Photoshopped poster of David Tennant as the Riddler, and I think he's stated that he'd like the role, so I would love to see that.

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I think they should bring in villians that have never been potrayed before. I would really love to see them have Killer Croc in a movie but it seems more likely that they would have Riddler or Catwoman in it. Also they could just have another actor potray Joker (It won't be as good as Ledger's) and that's how they can introduce Harley. Also they should give Scarecrow a much larger role. He might as well be a regular criminal with the role he has now.

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I once saw an excellent Photoshopped poster of David Tennant as the Riddler, and I think he's stated that he'd like the role, so I would love to see that.
Where did you find this? I would like to see it if you have a link.

Would like to see the Riddler.

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I've always wanted Harley Quinn to be in the third movie. Joker doesn't have to be recast, they could simply show her taking a glimpse into Joker's padded room and her either becoming smitten or madly insane. But I don't know what Harley Quinn could add to the third movie other than what the Joker brought to The Dark Knight.

Ra's al Ghul should make a return.

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Harley could be in, and I dunno get orders from a backshot of the Joker or something. Or maybe she could just be some freak inspired by the joker's actions. Whatever it is, she wouldn't be a main villain I don't think. There was rumours (there's been too many) of Rachel Weiss playing Catwoman; she'd be cool in my opinion.

In response to the David Tennant/Riddler Photoshop pic, it was made by the same person on Deviantart who made the Harley Quinn one above. Amazing stuff, I'll see if I can find a link.


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There was rumours (there's been too many) of Rachel Weiss playing Catwoman; she'd be cool in my opinion.
Rachel Weiss playing anyone would be cool. She could be in the next movie in a Bane costume and I wouldn't mind.

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Here's the Tennant mock-up.

http://elantriswillsurvive.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/batman_3_poster___riddler_by_joshwmc.jpg

And here is another work from the same person, who thinks Marion Cotillard would be a good Catwoman. I'd say of what I've heard of her, her voice is too french to play her.

http://fanartexhibit.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/batman_poster_cat.jpg


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