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Pikachu could use its bioelectricity to tear apart atoms in the surrounding area, creating a luminescent plasma. The electricity it then "fires" is actually quite weak, but it creates an ionized channel for the plasma to flow through. This electrically-charged plasma is what you see doing the damage, not the electricity itself. Other attacks like Spark and Thunderpunch use familiar electricity, though.

As for how it generates so enough electricity to do these things, when you assume that the bulk of its ranged "electrical" damage is actually delivered via the plasma, things become a bit more plausible. According to various Pokedex entries, the electricity is accumulated naturally and rapidly (even to the point where the Pikachu has to discharge the excess or die). Now electric eels have specialized cells called electrocytes that can generate massive potential differences, up to around 600V. Pikachu has super-efficient electrocytes, the bulk of which are located in its cheeks.
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No, it wasn't. The energy theory was brought up and discussed, but never proven. I think I was the first to propose the digitization theory (and a rebuttal for why energy conversion wouldn't work), and considering that it both made sense and no one really refuted it, it is still valid.
Groan. . Here, I'll show you proof. It's been proven. Deal with it.

ssuming the Poké Ball hits it and is not dodged or hit back to the Trainer, the Poké Ball will open, convert the wild Pokémon to an energy form, pull the energy into its hollow center, and then close.
(Source)

The balls convert a Pokémon into energy upon contact, suck it inside, and close automatically.
(Source)

When a Poké Ball is thrown at a Pokémon during a capture attempt, or when releasing/withdrawing a trainer's Pokémon, the Pokémon becomes a blob of red light/energy.
([url=http://gaming.wikia.com/wiki/Pok%C3%A9_Ball]Source[/url)

The ball converts the Pokémon and any attached items into energy (represented in the anime as a dim red light, but usually portrayed as a flash of stars, bubbles, etc. in the various games), and sucks it inside, closing automatically in the process.
(Source - Just Google it; I can't find the url. . O.o)

So, no, it is not a theory. It's what happens.

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Not to sound argumentative, but where exactly has Bulbapedia/Wikipedia/Wikia Gaming/Random place got their information from. When you see it, the 'common sense' assumption is that its energy, so people would put this in articles without thinking. Its worth noting that Bulbapedia and Wikipedia are both essentially made by the general public. I'm not familiar with Wikia Gaming or whatever the other place was, so I can't comment on those.

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Pokemon who know harden have the ability to control their molecular structure, and when they use harden, they can't use all of their energy, so they tighten their molecules to make themselves more firm.

It's not that the electrtricity is moving slow, it's just that so much comes out, that it seems slower(this is the best I could come up with in shorttime, so there's probably a whole bunch of holes in this one)

(I've answered this one before)However, pikachu has electricity in it's body, just as humans do. It can control more though due to it's body structure, so in this case size doesn't matter. Now pikachu also has the power to release that energy too, in bigger andsmaller amounts, which explains why some of it's moves are stronger than others, and some only paralyze a victim.

I actually like the energy theory better( and I got the idea from this article about pokemon science) and it had energy conversion on it.

Here
http://www.sciforums.com/encyclopedia/Pokemon

and this explains apricorns! their structure can resist the heat of the energy!

Also sorry to correct you, Nieteio, but eels need to beunderwater in order for their electricity to "work" but the same rules could apply to pikachu if it somehow can do the same thing on land.

Oh and could someone tell me who posted this comment on my rep messages

"Just trying to help, man"

Hey sumner, this one's for you, I was "reminicing" through some of the old post and questions and I came across your blastoise answer(remember w/ the cannons? page 3, question #74) if it's bone, then how is there steel around it? If you can't answer, that's fine, but try it out.

BTW haven't heard from you in a while, how come?

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Not so fast! Solid matter is the most compact form of matter, and energy takes up the most space. If the atoms of a Charizard were to turn into energy, the volume necessary to hold that energy would be exponentially greater than the amount necessary for a solid Charizard's mass.
Ok, people, before we seal the deal on the energy idea, has anybody solved this problem? It was posted a while back and nobody explained it.

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I don't think my question was answered, so...

Assuming Pokemon become energy when they enter Pokeballs, what do they remember when they re-emerge? Is their last memory of entering the Pokeball, even if that was weeks ago? And what about things like aging etc; if a Pokemon is kept in it's ball forever, will it be "immortal" in that it won't age? Or will it, after a given amount of time, simply die in the ball?

I HATE those things; I absolutely refuse to enter one just for the sake of these questions. I'd rather just ask.


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Obviously, if so many sites have the same information, it's true. Bulbapedia has never once lied or had uncited information. They check official Pokémon sites before posting information. And the same usually goes for Wikipedia.
And yet we can't seem to find an 'official site' that state it is an energy transfer :\
Lol... see what post secondary has done to us? (Assuming that is why you asked).

Indeed, primary source materials are the best to find.

If anyone is wondering, primary sources, in regards to Pokemon would include:

-the games
-the anime
-interviews with those involved with Pokemon
-guides
-books/magazines (produced by gamefreak)
-TCG

Here's a question though:

Has there been guns (perhaps only harpoons), in Pokemon, aside from the banned episode? Because I remember reading something somewhere a while back, that conflicts would usually be solved by Pokemon battle.
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How are you doin in there?
Pokemon remember everything that happened befre entering the ball(and entering the ball itself) They remember everything that happened ouutside(that they see and hear) but pokemon also remember what they hear inside the pokem\ball, for thay can't see(obviously). Their last memory is of what they see, what they hear, or what theyvisualize(if they can remember that). They age just as any other animal, transferred into energy or not. It does age, but you, as a trainer, need to let it out or exercise or it will, unfortunately, die of weakness(sort of). It might not even to lift itself up. It's very sad to watch. *weeps* It does not have food or liquid in the pokeball so again, as a tainer, you need to feed the pokemon.

Don't shoot

Guns are kept safe and are against the law in the world of pokemon. the man of the safari zone illegally kept those guns and team rocket having them is pretty self explanitory. However, (for all you airsoft and paintball fans out ther) non-lethal weapons are legal, but for sport only.

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I'm stickin woth my theory: they're converted into energy and their molecules are reesembled into a smaller form of the pokemon.
Wouldn't that require fewer molecules to be involved in the smaller model of the pokemon, thereby 'simplifying' the structure of the pokemon? Think of the molecules as pixels - you start with a standard sprite:



Then you shrink it, reducing the number of pixels (molecules) in the process:



But when you re-enlarge it, it has more pixels (molecules) but has lost the complicated structure:



Obviously, it would be to a lesser degree than this, but the pokemon's physical form would be affected.

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Question: How does Charizard fly? And Garchomp, for that matter. Many pokemon that can learn Fly have wings that are too small to allow them to actually "fly." Maybe glide. And Garchomp doesn't learn fly, but flies in the anime. What's up with that?
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no they don't enlarge, the process is repeated, once in a smaller form and are "called" out of their pokeball and their molecules are once again broken down and are reessembled and come out of the ball the same way they entered, so it's basically reversing the process.
So then, Pokemon transform into energy, are absorbed by the Pokeball and reassemble into a smaller version inside? That means that some matter/energy is lost, whichever way you cut it, so the Pokeball would not be able to release a fully-sized Pokemon, as it would have lost some energy/matter.


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Question: How does Charizard fly? And Garchomp, for that matter. Many pokemon that can learn Fly have wings that are too small to allow them to actually "fly." Maybe glide. And Garchomp doesn't learn fly, but flies in the anime. What's up with that?
My guess would be that the air in Pokemon world is somewhat denser for some reason, allowing heavier pokemon to fly with smaller wings. (think, swimming in water compared to trying to fly). They could also, like dragonair, have some degree of control over wind currents, allowing them to buoy themselves up.

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then I'll go with the data theory. Same thing only, they're transferrred in to data. It's just that Shinji said that there are many sources and I went with it so I'll go with the data theory.

Also I thought of a theory for Miltank. Cows actually eat the tips of grass, not the whole blade, so that's why tthe grass is still everywhere,ANd alwys seems to be cut.

flight
this is from draconian.com and tis is how dragons fly. The same rules apply.

The actual force of flight is the continuous down sweep of powerful wings scooping, and thrusting the body upwards. An immature dragon does not have the strength needed for a vertical jump from flat ground to take off. They will usually stay near higher cliffs to use the heat updrafts to keep aloft. It takes a few years of flying to build the extremely strong flight muscles needed to lift the dragon body from the ground. The wings make actually look small for the mass of the dragon, but all dragons have an innate magic ability to help them fly. This magic helps keep dragons from straining themselves during long flights.

They also produce hydrogen to make them lighter.
Here

http://animal.discovery.com/videos/dragons-how-dragons-fly.html


And HERE's where my idea of the fire breathing came from(but I changed min e up a bit by replacing platinum w/ iron pyrite and flint)

http://animal.discovery.com/videos/dragons-firebreathing-explained.html

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Oh yeah, it's definitely not hydrogen. I forgot the fact that diatomic hydrogen is impossible to make with the body. You will end up with H+ ions instead of the required hydrogen atoms. The H+ would then rupture every membrane it touches lol. And then, the hydrogen gas, if it does form by some manner of impossibility, is small enough to diffuse out of the body.

From when you were arguing with Gymno re: firebreathing. Dragons couldn't use hydrogen to help be more buoyant or whatever :P

Oh and, this is just me getting confused. What was the actual explanation for the Miltank thing that you just gave? I wasn't quite sure what you were getting at...

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I'm back from a 3-day World Ends With You break! :D

But anyways, I read in this Dragonology book one theory would be something along the lines of having hollow bones with hexagonal honeycomb-type growths (for lack of a better word in my head XD) inside, keeping them solid while losing some weight, and this is combined with filling the outer gaps with lighter-than-air gas. Not Hydrogen! Say, Helium or something.

My one issue with this is that the weight of poke-dragons are already given. :/ in other words, pretty dang heavy. But on the other hand, they generally aren't the size of your typical European-style dragons. So, that, combined with proper scaly flying technique leads me to believe that this would be a decent answer.
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Okay, I saw it on Animal Planet, which, when you think about it is legit, however It is possible to be wrong so I don't know. It makes sense to me. I do own Dragonology so I'll give you the direct quotes about their theories on fire and flight. I pretty much mixed the D-logy and AP ones together, that's how I" came up with my theory.

Flight
"The laws of flight say that dragons, like bees, can't fly, when in fact they can. Their aerial skill is assisted by the dragon's ability to bend its wings and rotate them quickly in their sockets and also by the fact that dragon bones are lightweight and hollow like those of birds."

HOW DRAGONS BREATHE FIRE
"Essentially, fire breathing is made possible through adaption of venom glands, such as those of commonly found cobras or asps. As with these snakes, dragon venom comes from two especially adapted teeth, or fangs. Dragons who can breathe fire secrete a piece of flint and a piece of iron pyrite in a special pouch in their mouths, jiggling them to produce the spark to light the venom. Explanations involving methane gases of iron teeth are unscientific nonsense.

Miltank is a cow(obviously), And when cows graze, they don't eat the whole blade of grass. They eat the tips. So, I guess the reason on how there is enough grass to keep the vegation at a steady rate is because Miltank don't eat the entire part of the grass. This also keeps the lawn cut in johto and other regions.

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Miltank is a cow(obviously), And when cows graze, they don't eat the whole blade of grass. They eat the tips. So, I guess the reason on how there is enough grass to keep the vegation at a steady rate is because Miltank don't eat the entire part of the grass. This also keeps the lawn cut in johto and other regions.
Doesn't make sense. The original point of the question was that Miltank need to take in a ridiculous amount of calories and would have to eat unrealistic amounts of grass to survive. If they were just eating the tips, that means Miltank would have to travel even further to get enough food and Miltank farms would end up covering practically the whole of Johto.

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Nice shameless thread bumping :D

Here's my question - How does the whole economy of the Pokemon world work? Almost everybody seems to be a gym leader, policeman, nurse or Pokemon trainer. We've seen a couple of historians and criminals, but one has to wonder how the government provides what seems to be a full free healthcare service for both people and Pokemon, when so many people are being Pokemon trainers and therefore don't get any money. Look at Ash as an example. He never seems to earn any money, bbut he always has enough food and stuff. So do Pokemon centres feed you for free as well? If they do, then where the hell is all of this money coming from?

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^Ash roughs it and eats off the land, duh. Brock makes everything from scratch with ingredients found in the great outdoors.
As far as the occupations in the world of pokemon go, I look at it like this; say the story was about a regular doctor (like in Season 1, for example). Who would the characters be? We'd have other doctors, medical students, nurses, secretaries, ill people, and insurance companies. Where's Team Rocket? Where's Looker? Where's the crazy chick from Johto with the blue hair? Nobody cares about any of them in our medical story since they have no place from this vantage point. In Ash's world, do we need lawyers? Do we need vikings? Do we need chemists? No, Ash's world revolves around Gym leaders and contest celebrities.
So...not everyone is a Gym leader, Joy, Jenny, or shady character; they just happen to be the types Ash runs into on a regular basis.
Ahh, the government...it is safe to assume that the Pokemon Centers are subsidised to ensure that they stay open until you realise how remote some of them are. The one in the Charmander episode (yes, Season 1 again) was quite literally in the middle of nowhere. So they must be getting revenue from someplace. We know they got pop machines. They probably overprice their drinks. And there's another factor here: Joys tend to be philanthropic. I think the episode's actually called 'The Joy of Pokemon', and it runs on about how this Joy kayaks from island to island to do...something...you get where I'm goin' with this. Since they are so caring people (it runs in the family), they're not too concerned with mula on a day-to-day basis. Wait, in that case...the Joy family probably has so much wealth because Pokemon Centers are ubiquitous that they can fund their electricity and equipment (seriously, how much power could a machine designed to nurse a Cherubi back to health require?) without giving it a second thought.


I was egg-hatching today, and I noticed that the Bicycle can make a 180 without rotating. How does this work?
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Trainers pay with a system known as pokepoints. They are calculated through the pokedex and are transferred when all of the users pokemon faint(the pokedex reads this by detecting brain activity and thermal readings) 100 pokepoints equals 1 dollar. Pokemarts only accept pokepoints, but there are normal stores in the pokemon world as well(grocery stores, malls, all that stuff) but they pay tyhrough money. Adults, if they're lucky and good enough become pokemon league members and gym leaders and get paid to be one. Real world jobs are still around though. Venders, artist, archeologists, actors/actresses, and pro sports still apply. Pokepoints can be transfeered into money. So if a trainer grows up and doesn't want to be a trainer anymore, he/she converts his/her pokepoints for money. So if you saved up 1,000,000 pokepoints(miraculously, I might add) you'd have 10,000 dollars.

I hate answering question like this but... That is simply a game thing. In R/S/E you jump in the air and do a 180 trun. The reason you don't see the process of turning is simply to save time. If you don't like that answer as much as I do, then they do it so fast that it seems as if they haven't turned at all.