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Started by Inkfingers April 22nd, 2009 7:44 AM
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Er, Ink, not to be mean or anything, but I think that might have kinda been what SL was getting at. He's in an equally valid position to answer the question, so it doesn't make sense to restrict the answering to a few people who have done what pretty much anyone could.

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Well I'm not trying to say only the guru and side gurus can answer questions. I mean that the guru(me) and the side gurus should answer first so that the ones that I give the position to have a position, otherwise, there's really no point in having side guru being a position. Otherwise side gurus would just be people who visit and answer a lot. So I'm not saying only they can answer, I'm asking that the visitors please let them answer first. But I feel that two people are too muuch now that I give more thoouht into it. So...

Please let either the guru(me) or a side guru answer the question first then feel free to answer. Just one person answers first though, then anyone is free to answer.

The only reason I'm doing this is because there really is no purpose for side gurus other wise. Like I said, if this rule wasn't here, side gurus would just be people who visit and answer a lot.

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Er, Ink, not to be mean or anything, but I think that might have kinda been what SL was getting at. He's in an equally valid position to answer the question, so it doesn't make sense to restrict the answering to a few people who have done what pretty much anyone could.
^ What he said. I don't see why I have to wait for others to give answers. That's a tad greedy.

EDIT: But, if it makes you feel any better, than I suppose I'll only visit this thread and not post unless I actually have a question.
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Guys just please wait for 1 side guru or just me to answer first(whichever sees the question first) then you can give your own opinion. If you guys don't like this thenplease tell me. But if you don't want it here, then I don't really think there should be side gurus. If anyone has any suggestions on what side gurus should do for there not being a rule please tell me.
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Ignoring the arguing...

When Pokemon enter Pokeballs, they are converted to energy, correct? If that is the case, does time essentially stop for them, like no aging and such?

And, if not, are they conscious while in this state? Basically, if a Pokemon emerged from it's pokeball, what, if anything, would it remember? Would it's last memory be of entering the pokeball?


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No no. The pokemon are converted into energy, it has no effect on them. The pokemon knows it's going in the pokeball( when it hasn't fainted of course) when the trainer calls it back. Then in a three process, it's converted into energy and is miniturized and stored in the pokemon containment unit of the pokeball. It remembers everything that it can remember being through. Like humans remember and sometimes forget stuff, so do they.
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Ok, As for the earlier mention of being bored, I meant going back and forth with SL there. Not the thread. I'd like to see if this could get more back on topic from here on out, seeing as this has essentially become an argument (as per dream-epilogue's comment). I'm glad it's at it's conclusion, myself. That aside...

How do dark pokemon manage to ignore psychic attacks so easily? Surely it's not a mental thing, because Alakazam and the like easily manipulate inanimate objects.
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Ok, As for the earlier mention of being bored, I meant going back and forth with SL there. Not the thread. I'd like to see if this could get more back on topic from here on out, seeing as this has essentially become an argument (as per dream-epilogue's comment). I'm glad it's at it's conclusion, myself. That aside...

How do dark pokemon manage to ignore psychic attacks so easily? Surely it's not a mental thing, because Alakazam and the like easily manipulate inanimate objects.
Well, Dark-types are known to have vicious, malicious minds and intentions, to the point where releasing their aura is damaging (Dark Pulse). Psychic-types have very sensitive minds and have shown that they are capable of telepathy. When a dark type is nearby, the strong malicious intent is enough to overwhelm them and stifle the Psychic-type's mental abilities. This aura is also given off by Ghosts (Banette may have the strongest due to its angry origins), hence the Psychic-type's weakness to them.

Now about PokeBalls, I want to debate someone over the converting into energy thing. See, I missed it the first time it came around, and I think I raise a valid point in that energy takes up more volume than solid matter.

I've been working on how a PokeBall can do what it does, and I'm thinking that it disintergrates (!) the target and keeps both its consciousness and genotype in the PokeBall shell. The genotype is stored permanently, which is why two Pokemon cannot be caught in the same PokeBall, and inanimate objects (like riceballs) don't get disintergrated.

Anyway, upon being summoned, the PokeBall re-intergrates the Pokemon using the genetic data as a blueprint, then transfers the consciousness into the body.

And about the question asked above, Pokemon can hear and possibly see what is going on around them while in their Pokeballs (this is based on multiple instances in the show).

Also, it has been mentioned multiple times in multiple places that PokeBalls contain a "comfortable virtual world".
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Ya dark pokemon are very tactical and vengeful. They are a threat to phsycic pokemon, which weakens their abilities.

Nieto I .ike that assumption. But you're wrong(just kidding) But my friend ame up with a theory of being transferred into data, which also explains how they're able to be comported into a computer server. and didn't you say something about the human genome and data or something like that? If you know what I'm talking about and find it, please post the comment. Thank oyu.
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Lol i find it funny, this thread ohohoho
Imma play along harhar.
I have a question ,i dunno if its been awsnerd or not, by how does jigglypuff put people/pokemon to sleep with its music? Or any other pokemon that knows sing for that matter?

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Neiteio, I like that assumption, but you're wrong (just kidding). My friend came up with a theory of being transferred into data, which also explains how they're able to be comported (?) into a computer server. And didn't you say something about the human genome and data or something like that? If you know what I'm talking about and find it, please post the comment. Thank you.
Fixed.

...the human genome takes up approximately 20MB of data. The inner shell of the PokeBall could be receptive, like a hard disc, and thus hold the Pokemon's consciousness and data.
Sauce is the NHGRI (National Human Genome Research Institute). I stumbled across it when I was doing a research paper on the potential of gene therapy being used for criminal rehabilitation (i.e. which genes are responsible for aggression, weak impulse control, etc.).

Anyway, yes, that is identical to what I posted: the data used in Pokemon transferring is a two-part file: the Pokemon's consciousness and its genetic data.

Also, Electric Soldier Porygon: proof that the Pokemon world has the technology necessary to convert sentience into computer data.

Lol i find it funny, this thread ohohoho
Imma play along harhar.
I have a question ,i dunno if its been awsnerd or not, by how does jigglypuff put people/pokemon to sleep with its music? Or any other pokemon that knows sing for that matter?
Don't know if you're trolling or not, but I'll play along.

Sing and Grasswhistle do not derive their effects from the notes sung, but from infrasonic frequencies hidden in the "song".

Infrasonic frequencies are the levels of sound too low to hear. You see, humans show unusual physical symptoms when exposed to specific infrasonic frequencies, particularly 7.16Hz (the infamous "Brown Note", causes nausea) and 14.0Hz (causes irrational anxiety). The two aforementioned sleep moves utilize an infrasonic frequency that causes drowsiness. This results in multiple Pokemon being able to access these moves although they use different songs.

Also related, a frequency of 20MHz cancels out the natural resonance of internal organs, and results in total organ failure. Sounds a lot like Yanmega's Bug Buzz to me...

Infrasonics... brings back some good memories... let's just say I got some nice prizes for my research on infrasonics last year.
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Then ya I'll go w/ data transferring ot energy. The combonation of Jigglypuff's melody, rythm, tampo and ptich cause drowsiness kind of like sleeping pills do, only through audio, not consumption. Basically, the way it's voice sounds when it sings stimulates the brain and causes extreme drowsiness, leading to automatic sleep.
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Don't know if you're trolling or not, but I'll play along.


LOL
No, i actual am not, i just thought it was funny that such a thread like this exsist where people give scientific reasons for events and such from a childs game.

And what you discribed for the reason for why people/pokemon fall asleep is interesting.
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I have a question, if I may.

Miltank produces more than five gallons of milk a day. Five gallons of milk weighs 43lb. Now, cow milk is about 66 calories per 100g (though Miltank's is said to contain more nutrition, possibly meaning more calories). If we take 1 pound is equal to exactly 453.59237g, them Miltank produces 19504.47191g of milk daily, containing around 12870 calories. Grass is about 64 calories per pound, meaning that Miltank would have to eat more than 200 pounds of grass just to balance out the milk! This means that (even discounting the energy that is used for movement, is lost through heat, leaves the body in waster products, etc.) Miltank has to eat more than its own body weight in grass every day.

So, how do farmers successfully keep herds of several Miltank without turning the whole of Johto into a desert thanks to their voracious appetites?

Note: Miltank also produces enough energy in its milk to support six full grown men.

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I say, the same way a person eats 1 pound of chocolate and gains 5 pounds of butt. XP
Perhaps the grass is different, and it contains more calories per pound than real grass does, or they eat other things as well. Cows are well known for eating grass and hay, but Miltank could easily consume other things, perhaps even meat. Something to think about.
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(for my theory) The grass has been grown with some sort of chemical or other substance that modifies Miltank's physical and mental abilities.

BTW ILM how far did you look into that question?
^ That was f***ed up man...
| Here you have someone who took their time to think up an interesting question for you to answer regarding Pokemon...
| And you come up with THIS???

At the beginning of the thread you state that you'll give SCIENTIFIC answers to our Pokemon-related questions... and sincerely, there's nothing SCIENTIFIC about: "birds fly 'cause they got wings"

I'd be pissed if I was ILayM...

but i'll give you a chance:

Kecleon is based on a chameleon, and his ability to become invisible is based on a chameleon's ability to camouflage,

a chameleon, however, can NOT turn invisible, they change colors depending on their surroundings to either camouflage OR catch a opposite sexed chameleon's attention,

even so, a chameleon's ability to camouflage can be easily distinguishable because of the angle from which you look at it

(for example a brown chameleon on a tree can be found easily diagonally up because you see the brown silhouette against the greenery of the tree, but a bird who looks down at it will have a harder time)

therefore, Kecleon's ability must be to turn INVISIBLE since light isn't refracted from it (meaning it's not transparent, that would make it still visible), and it can move freely and be [not] seen from many directions at a time

Therefore,
"What gives Kecleon it's ability to become INVISIBLE???"

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I might just steal an explanation from the Artemis Fowl series, where the idea is given that if something vibrates at a frequency too fast for eyes to follow, it will appear invisible. However, I don't think that's particularly accurate.

Perhaps Kecleon can rotate its scales to reflect light in a way that it throws up a projection of what's behind it. However, this theory suffers the problem which you stated of being at exactly the right angle.

Perhaps Kecleon in fact remains perfectly visible, but instead exhales a hallucinogenic gas that provides the illusion of it being invisible. The problem of this is why it would leave its red stripe invisible, if it can control the illusion to such a degree.

A similar thing would be possible if it had psychic powers, buit the red stripe problem remains and Kecleon is not a psychic type.

I'm struggling here...

Wait, I might have got it! If you dip a beaker of glass into a liquid that has the same refractive index as glass, it seems to disappear. This is because we only see things underwater because the light bends when it travels between substances. However, if the two substances have the same refractive index, no refraction occurs and the object immersed in the liquid appears invisible. Perhaps, Kecleon can release a chemical of some kind into its body which gives it the refractive index of air, but the dye in its red stripe prevents this chemical from working somehow.

That theory's probably filled with holes, but its the best I could come up with. Anyone else got any ideas?

EDIT: if anyone doesn't get the refractive index, there's a demonstation of the beaker experiment on Youtube

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why . .
why . .
a machoke that turns into a machamp get additional hands ?
why . .
why . .
we should maxed its beauty if we want our feebas evolves to a milotic ?
what . .
what . .
is the excretion organ of a giratina ?
why . .
why . .
pokemon guru ? not pokemon prof or pokemon master or pokemon scientist ?

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Uh, drunk, have you been reading this? No? Go back a couple of pages....
Ok, all done? Good. We've had problems with this before. Don't start it up again, please.

Questions! Alrighty, then...
Machoke/Machamp: Can't think anything yet. ><
Milotic: It's just that ugly. XD Feebas must have a certain amount of a chemical needed to evolve, which other pokemon either produce or obtain through other ways, such as by battling (adrenaline?) or relaxation. Because of it's genetics, it can't gain enough of said substance through simply leveling up, but it's metabolism can create this from eating certain compounds found in poffin and pokeblocks, especially in dry-flavored ones.
Giratina: I'd assume it has an anus like any other living(?) creature, but pokemon seem to be able to hide such things very well... as an alternate, it could, theoretically, simply diffuse toxins into the air, say, through it's "wings" of some such.
Guru: it sounds neat.
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As stated on Pokemon.com's pokedex, Kecleon "can freely change its body color. How you can't see that it's not invisible? Well this is a really hard question and my guess is that Kecleon evolved from a chameleon and overr time has mastered being camoflouged at all angles by projecting and image of everything around it, giving it the illusion of being invisible. BTW, how was my answer for miltank crappy?

That's simply just a perk of being a machoke. It gets extra arms and hands for added intimidation, protection, and strength.

Feebas has an odd body and chemical structure. The nutrients and everything else in the poffin and pokeblocks are the only way that a feebas can evolve due to its chemical balance. So it's basically what mOOg said.

The anus, which is located at the end of the stomach

Pokemon master has a meaning of its own(caught all pokemon or whatever it is, Ash brings it up thousands of times) Pokemon proffesors don't know everything about pokemon. Now I'm not saying I do either, but I really can't answer any quetions with an I don't know, otherwise, I would HAVE to call myself pokemon prof. By saying pokemon guru, it seems like I know everything about pokemon, so that means that anyone can ask ANY question about pokemon. Or it might just be 'cause it's neat.

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As stated on Pokemon.com's pokedex, Kecleon "can freely change its body color. How you can't see that it's not invisible? Well this is a really hard question and my guess is that Kecleon evolved from a chameleon and overr time has mastered being camoflouged at all angles by projecting and image of everything around it, giving it the illusion of being invisible.
Erm, what? That ain't really an answer. I could say "I can fly because I've mastered it" but it still doesn;t explain even slightly how I actually manage to fly. (I can't fly, btw. That was an example)

That's simply just a perk of being a machoke. It gets extra arms and hands for added intimidation, protection, and strength.
Fair enough...though it is interesting to note that IRL, the animals with the most limbs (i.e. Starfish, octopi, squid) are not particularly high up on the evolutionary scale

Feebas has an odd body and chemical structure. The nutrients and everything else in the poffin and pokeblocks are the only way that a feebas can evolve due to its chemical balance. So it's basically what mOOg said.
hang on, a natural creature has evolved in a way that is dependant on a man-made substance? How long have pokeblocks/poffins been around for, exactly, if they've started influencing evolution.

The anus, which is located at the end of the stomach
Technically, the anus is an egestion organ, not an excretion organ. Excretion specifically refers to waste products formed within the body (such as urea and CO2)

But that's just me being a bit anal XD

Pokemon master has a meaning of its own(caught all pokemon or whatever it is, Ash brings it up thousands of times) Pokemon proffesors don't know everything about pokemon. Now I'm not saying I do either, but I really can't answer any quetions with an I don't know, otherwise, I would HAVE to call myself pokemon prof. By saying pokemon guru, it seems like I know everything about pokemon, so that means that anyone can ask ANY question about pokemon. Or it might just be 'cause it's neat.
I like your last suggestion the best :P