Seviper vs Zangoose

Started by Electricz May 8th, 2009 9:40 PM
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Zangoose, since it is faster and stronger...
And it has a better movepool.
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Zangoose is great in battles, and it may defeat a Seviper in the same level without exceeding 10 turns.

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Zangoose could one-shot Seviper.
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Here, let's do this by using stats. Yay! =D (Here I go again. . Getting analytical. . >.>") Personally, I must prefer Zangoose, though. .

Seviper's Stats:
HP: 73
Attack: 100
Defense: 60
Special Attack: 100
Special Defense: 60
Speed: 65

Weak To: Ground and Psychic
Resistant To: Fighting, Poison, Bug, and Grass
Immune To: None

Zangoose's Stats:
HP: 73
Attack: 115
Defense: 60
Special Attack: 60
Special Defense: 60
Speed: 90

Weak To: Fighting
Resistant To: None
Immune To: Ghost


Now, in terms of movepools. Note that this only includes the level-up moves as wild Pokémon are unable to, technically speaking, learn tutor, TM, or HM moves.

Spoiler:
Seviper:
Wrap - Normal
Lick - Ghost
Bite - Dark
Poison Tail - Poison
Screech - Normal - Non-damaging
Glare - Normal - Non-damaging
Crunch - Dark
Poison Fang - Poison
Swagger - Normal - Non-damaging
Haze - Ice - Non-damaging
Night Slash - Dark
Poison Jab - Poison
Wring Out - Normal

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Zangoose:
Scratch - Normal
Leer - Normal - Non-damaging
Quick Attack - Normal
Swords Dance - Normal - Non-damaging
Fury Cutter - Bug
Slash - Normal
Pursuit - Dark
Embargo - Dark - Non-damaging
Crush Claw - Normal
Taunt - Dark - Non-damaging
Detect - Fighting - Non-damaging
False Swipe - Normal
X-Scissor - Bug
Close Combat - Fighting


Zangoose's Attack stat is very high and it has many physical attacks. Thus, this will ultimately defeat Seviper, who has very low Defense.

Seviper cannot do much to defend against Zangoose, as its Poison-type attacks are unable to poison Zangoose because of Immunity, its Special Ability.

Therefore, Zangoose would win. Counter arguments should be fun, if not null.

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i still reckon Seviper would win but anyone of them could win theres attack missed critical hits and also Sevipers Glare could paralyze Zangoose but it would be a very close battle i say also on the anime anyone could win as well due to diferences to the games

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That picture means nothing since, if I recall correctly, which I do, Zangoose had beaten Seviper before.

i still reckon Seviper would win but anyone of them could win theres attack missed critical hits and also Sevipers Glare could paralyze Zangoose but it would be a very close battle i say also on the anime anyone could win as well due to diferences to the games
I'm talking a hypothetical, get ride of critical hits, they're both at level 100, we're going by game mechanics, and they're both wild Pokémon battle. And regardless of paralysis, Pokémon are still able to move, be it in the games or the anime. Paralysis doesn't always work. There's really nothing else I can say that won't be a repeat of what I've already stated.
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I prefer Seviper, but even I have to dmit that Zangoose would probably win out of the two (assuming they are the same level.)
Yep. Seviper might have a chance if it paralyzes Zangoose right off the bat and gets lucky a few turns (odds are good Zangoose wouldn't be able to move for at least a turn or two), but otherwise I think Zangoose would take it.

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Yep. Seviper might have a chance if it paralyzes Zangoose right off the bat and gets lucky a few turns (odds are good Zangoose wouldn't be able to move for at least a turn or two), but otherwise I think Zangoose would take it.
thats what i was trying to say about paralyze also paralyze makes you slower so seviper has a good chance to win as well
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It doesn't make you slower by much, and Zangoose has over 30 more EVs in Speed than Seviper, so it wouldn't matter.
I believe you meant to say that Zangoose has just about 25 stat points high in speed than Zangoose, EV's can always range on how you train it.

To answer the question, Zangoose. It has a larger movepool, higher attack stats,and higher speed. Also, depending on the two Pokémon, Zangoose can OHKO a Seviper because its Defece stats aren't too great.
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Strategy always gived every Pokémon an oppotunity. If someone choose to use Zangoose an a Physical Sweeper and hit the opponent hard and fast, then Seviper would be in trouble, especiialy since Zangoose can actually use Substitute and Swords Dance, and then go in for a final blow.

Except, there's one problem that no one has taken into account, and I believe the person above hasn't noticed either. Zangoose's special ability is Immunity, therefore, Seviper cannot poison Zangoose. xD
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I like the whole glare idea thing but the thing about them is, knowing their rivalry do you really think a Zangoose would wait long enough for a Seviper to stare at it? Really? In every aspect Zangoose would probably win, I recon the win rat to like 90% for Zangoose to win.
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In real life, the mongoose always beats the snake. The only reason why the mongoose would win is because it got poisoned by the snake... But Zangoose has immunity, so it will never fall to that silliness.

my lvl 100 Seviper owns i could easily beat a lvl 100 Zangoose with Wring Out and Night Slash
Then the Zangoose is not doing it right.
First turn Swords Dance, second turn Return.
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Even if Seviper can't poison Zangoose, the attacks would still damage it.

One can't always say that a Seviper would always beat a Zangoose, vice-versa. Sometimes, strategy is needed. At other times, brute force works.

Also, we all can't forget about the usefulness of TM's/HM's. I, however, would say that Zangoose would best Seviper. I just prefer it's features than Seviper's, that's all.