Entei>Moltres or Moltres>Entei???

Started by AdamHays September 20th, 2004 6:19 PM
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Entei because it doesn't have the silly Electric weakness that plagues ny on all Flying Pokemon (bar Dragons, Gligar and Zapdos)... so could bed used more widely in competetive battling. They're both kinda 00ber though... :/

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Where's the "equally unusable" button?

Both of them rely on sunny day, but Moltres can buff speed with agility and then start sweeping with overheat/white herb combo. Entei lacks the speed to do so, but the type combination is a lot better than Moltres. Also it has solarbeam instead of HP Grass which is always a plus. Calmtei can indeed be powerful just like its fellow family members but then the poor type and lack of speed at the same time doesn't really work out as well. You're weak to both physical and special attacks... how can you manage to stay alive for calm mind?

Both of them are equally useless in the physical department. Can't learn anything, but Moltres is slightly better with aerial ace available.

Entei wins in defense, as calm mind does something. However, Moltres's kamikaze styled overheat attacks are just too overwhelming. I personally think that Moltres is better too because Moltres is 22sa's hero! ^_^

In the end, Entei = Moltres, and Articuno pwns them both.

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In the end, Entei = Moltres, and Articuno pwns them both.
The only pwning I see Articuno doing is a OHKO, which is almost like SkarmBlissing cause it takes no skill... ;_;...

Moltres dishes out more damage than all of them, but Entei gets rid of Heal Bellers. Dunno which to choose >.>...

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And even though I heard how you talked of Entei being capable of taking down Skarmbliss with calm mind, that actually can be refuted easily (no idea why I forgot this last time.) Blissey throws in toxic as Entei tries to calm mind (it has to if it wants to take down Blissey), and then you're pretty much forced rest. You can chesto, but then Blissey can do it again. This results in either a no-chesto rest, or an eventual switch out. No-chesto rest results in salamence coming in to dance on round and quake you the next round. (can always force you to rest earlier from toxic with seismic toss or something)

And there's always another OU call Vappy (who's the greatest anti-calmcune Pokemon ever... well it's an OU) who tags along in these mega OU abusives.

And no. Articuno pwns them all because I said so. >=) We all know that Articuno can pwn anything! ^_^ *hugs Arty*

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Articuno is my favorite......... I don't like entei..

and what happens when a slowking appears when entei attacks..... and uses calm mind and surf...

then a OHKO!!!!! =P... ^_^


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Whoa, back up there. Entei doesn't need to attack Blissey to kill it, with such low PP for everything but S-toss, Entei could just stall it to death. Salamence comes out, no prob, Ice Beam it with Lantune. If Blissey comes out and tries to Sponge, explode xD.

And AdamHays, Entei is on the list of the weakest Fire types, there no way, even with a critical thats its gonna OHKO Articuno, who has such High Sp.Def to set up its own Sheer Cold.

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i'd say Moltres.
Entei can get Pwned By EQ.-.-
And for you who Say Articuno can PwnAnybodyinyourface,Moltres Pwns Articuno.
And Moltres does NOT Get Hit by Ground attacks.But It does get Hit by Rock attacks.
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I still think Moltres is better.
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Since I'm a preference chooser instead of a strategy chooser, I just have to say that I've always liked Moltres better than Entei. While the three legendary dogs retain a great deal of popularity, the three legendary birds are largely forgotten as far as popular pokemon go. Moltres basically brings back fond memories of RBY and Stadium, where I would use it at times. Admittedly, back then its moveset was less than spectacular, but I still go by pure preference. I'm not even going to ask what half the stuff in the posts above mine means XP

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In my opinion its entie..i never really used moltres so i dont really know how good he is..but i no entei is good!!
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lol Entei. The only thing I use it for is the occasional joke with my friends. X3
The Moltres Overheat thing can work okay, better than pretty much anything Entei can do. Of course there’s easy counters for both (Kingdra and Salamence anyone?) but personally Moltres can at least have a shred of respect, IMO.

CM water Pokes are a thorn in my regular team’s side, absolutely. That and Milotic are my biggest weaknesses.

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I like Articuno too.

But what happends when Entei use FireBlast on Articuno.
OHKO,and without having to power up his attack stregnth.
Trust me, I've known Frostweaver and Spike Razzor for too long. They know the intircate details of the pokmon games' battling system. When you're as leet as them, type has no factor whatsoever...

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and what happens when a slowking appears when entei attacks..... and uses calm mind and surf...

then a OHKO!!!!! =P... ^_^
Doesn't work because Entei will use sunny day to nerf surf first of all, then also boosts up on calm mind. Surf only does neutral damage due to sunny day. Depending on who has rest, that one will be the winner. If both side has rest, then most likely tie as eventually someone will switch when the opponent is resting in order to go for a physical attack to finish it off, or haze it away.
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I think,Entei. *Use Thunder*
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eh Id say that entei has a fair chance against articuno, provided you catch it on the switch, and when it mind reads you switch into a poke with sturdy or who can avoid ohkos. all in all I prefer moltres, theres some nice spc attack on that bird sunny day up and he does some nice dmg. speed and a 4x weakness to rock make him hard to use.
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sorry to dis all moltres fanz, but it has a quad weakness against rock and entei is just better cuz i don't like the birds and because moltres looks like a rubber chicken on fire
:lol:i never thought of that before,but now that you say its true.:lol:

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sorry to dis all moltres fanz, but it has a quad weakness against rock and entei is just better cuz i don't like the birds and because moltres looks like a rubber chicken on fire
lol ill never see moltres in the same way again now
but yeah over-all id go with moltres,
moltres is just better tactically in my opinion,
yes it has its x4 weakness' blah blah but who doesnt

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sorry to dis all moltres fanz, but it has a quad weakness against rock
"Let's just ditch Salamence because it has a quad weakness to ice, and ice beam is even more common than rock slide."

=)

Appearance hardly bugs me, and I still see Moltres as a appearance-wise better Pokemon than Entei. ^_^ In the usual pose Moltres (even Articuno looks terrible in the usual pose) does look pretty terrible, but if it stands differently it really loses the fire chicken image.