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Old June 19th, 2009 (12:42 PM).
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yeah I do think the in the original G/S/C games were low but that will most likely change HG/SS. As far as Kanto goes I think making it a Battle Frontier would be cool with Frontier Brains but in the same format of the show.
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I'm the kind of player who barrels through the plot with next to no training beyond whatever battles I get into going from Point A to Point B, so the levels in G/S/C never bothered me much. :P Still, it'd be nice if they made the levels in HG/SS more closely match the ones in other games, so I'm all for raising the levels. I'll just have to put up with trudging around in the grass leveling up my Pokémon, heh.
Pretty much the same as me!^^I think that it didn't matter that they had low levels, because that means that the amount of experience you get is affected and they all go along together.
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I'm guessing the new Red will be a mix between Satoshi and the Firered/Leafgreen trainer.
Satoshi? Oh for god's sake his name is Ash! ASH! If you don't like the English name well then too bad for you.

Anyway as I have stated before I want the move sets and AI of event battles to be raised, and not just the levels.
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Satoshi? Oh for god's sake his name is Ash! ASH! If you don't like the English name well then too bad for you.

Anyway as I have stated before I want the move sets and AI of event battles to be raised, and not just the levels.
I think he meant Satoshi Tijiri (the creator of Pokemon.)

They should make the elite four level 60s or at least mid level 50s.

Red can have Pokemon in the level 90s or 100s.

If the Kanto gyms levels were raised, I'd like to be able to encounter some strong wild Pokemon as well.

I hope some of them get a wardrobe update like someone else has mentioned. I doubt Jasmine would seeing as her overworld sprite was in Diamond, Pearl and Platinum. She was still wearing the same white dress. However, that doesn't mean that some can't get a new look. *coughWhitneycough*
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i dont know why yall keep over rating pearl (barry to me lol)
i beat his lv 80s team wit only a lv 44typhlosion knowing flamethrower,earthquake,shadowclaw,and flame wheel
granted my typhlosion was lv 50 at the end of it but still dats sad when a lv40 can beat 80s and still be in the yellow wit out healing.
Red is Ash so they should just go ahead and call him Ash
they better up the levels in the gyms but keep kanto the same for the most part (kanto has always been a joke,but still even they need a lil attention).
they should completely change the elite four cuz they were PATHETIC back in g/s/c
Lance was boring,i used my purple(shiny) kingler wit ice punch (never really understood that) and pooned his butt!
lv 15 pigeot would be AWESOME!!!!! i would so use the cheat code to catch dat lol
pigeotto was catchable at lv9 in yellow so it is possible.
hmm maybe they will just have all johto pokemon and theyre evolutions from kanto,hoenn,and sinnoh in the pokedex instead of the reversed pokedex lol
i wonder if youll get the GS ball in these remakes? you kno at least in america since we never got it the first go.
that would be awesome,finally not using action replay (a.k.a. gameshark) to get it and celebii.
maybe whitney will hav tauros AND miltank this time.... who knows wat theyll do but i do hope they lv them up a teensie bit so i dont have to lv grind,but i do hav to walk thru grass to find pokemon,i also hope they do the pokedex thing like in d/p/pt
so i dont have to catch every pokemon to get credit for my hard work ya kno?
wow ive typed alot for once lol ^_^
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i dont know why yall keep over rating pearl (barry to me lol)
i beat his lv 80s team wit only a lv 44typhlosion knowing flamethrower,earthquake,shadowclaw,and flame wheel
granted my typhlosion was lv 50 at the end of it but still dats sad when a lv40 can beat 80s and still be in the yellow wit out healing.
Red is Ash so they should just go ahead and call him Ash
they better up the levels in the gyms but keep kanto the same for the most part (kanto has always been a joke,but still even they need a lil attention).
they should completely change the elite four cuz they were PATHETIC back in g/s/c
Lance was boring,i used my purple(shiny) kingler wit ice punch (never really understood that) and pooned his butt!
lv 15 pigeot would be AWESOME!!!!! i would so use the cheat code to catch dat lol
pigeotto was catchable at lv9 in yellow so it is possible.
hmm maybe they will just have all johto pokemon and theyre evolutions from kanto,hoenn,and sinnoh in the pokedex instead of the reversed pokedex lol
i wonder if youll get the GS ball in these remakes? you kno at least in america since we never got it the first go.
that would be awesome,finally not using action replay (a.k.a. gameshark) to get it and celebii.
maybe whitney will hav tauros AND miltank this time.... who knows wat theyll do but i do hope they lv them up a teensie bit so i dont have to lv grind,but i do hav to walk thru grass to find pokemon,i also hope they do the pokedex thing like in d/p/pt
so i dont have to catch every pokemon to get credit for my hard work ya kno?
wow ive typed alot for once lol ^_^
Levels, should definitely be risen. Also, using Tyhphlosion, he makes the game a bit easy by itself, which is one reason in these remakes I'm taking the challenge and keeping mines at its mid stage evolution. However, for the Gyms, Elites, and Red I wouldn't want their team altered. All that needs improving is a basic raise in the Al, and altercation for their moveset to match that of the newer ones introduced since GSC and higher levels. This alone is simple and satisfying. It will also [as I've said before] keep the solid fans content with the nostalgic feel of things and compaints won't be as heavily risen.

Though, if teams were to be changed, I would want it to be after the Post-National Dex is obtained so we are allowed to the the later generations around. This way the Elites and rematches with the gyms can be hightened once more in level and their team rosters can be changed with some of the Pokémon afterwards. I think all this is possible as well, as I look back at what has occurred in Emerald, FireRed, LeafGreen, and recently Platinum. So, we'll see how things turn out. Oh yes, it has been shown that the PokéDex will follow the original way it had been in GSC, so the newer Pokémon will not appear until after the Elite most likely. As for the concept of basically seeing the Pokémon over catching, information on this has not been told as yet.
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Old June 19th, 2009 (10:12 PM).
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Satoshi? Oh for god's sake his name is Ash! ASH! If you don't like the English name well then too bad for you.
Actually, his name is Red. That was his given name in G/S/C when you battle him; that's one of the given default names in the games for that character; and that is his name in the Special manga, which is based on the game.

People can use the English names or the Japanese names or the German names or whatever language they feel more comfortable with, or whatever names they actually prefer. There's no need for that attitude just because someone calls a character by the Japanese name instead of the English name. It's simply a matter of preference, and what the person is used to.

Aero.'s post reminded me of one good change they can make to the Gym Leaders/Elite/Red/trainers in HG/SS: the AI. Make it as annoying and good as the one in D/P/Pt, and I'll be happy.

I wouldn't like to see roster changes with them, though. Not only would it change the nostalgic feel, it is also unnecessary. These are the Johto Gym Leaders/Elite, and their teams (at least the first time through the game) should reflect that.
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Pretty much i am hoping to fight Red once again, and i am sure they have planned to massively revamp the sprites and animation.
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Pretty much i am hoping to fight Red once again, and i am sure they have planned to massively revamp the sprites and animation.
Man I'm looking forward to beating Red into the ground one more time. I really hope that make his pokemon's levels higher, the AI smarter, and overall just make Red really challenging, the final battle.
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Man I'm looking forward to beating Red into the ground one more time. I really hope that make his pokemon's levels higher, the AI smarter, and overall just make Red really challenging, the final battle.
Same here :D. (I would like to see how they do red's sprite though). In my last post I just focused on levels. I think that all the important trainers should have very good AI level. Red should have the AI at max. They can also make Red's pokemon have max IVs like those of Cynthia. I want Lance to come to the level that all the other champs are. Every pokemon that an important trainer holds should have an effective moveset so that it may give us problems to beat them. So basically I want increased levels,AI, better moveset,(good looks too) and most above all A CHALLENGING GAMEPLAY THAT WILL KEEP US AT THE EDGE OF OUR CHAIRS(OR SOFAS whatever)!!!
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In G/S/C levels were too low, so I used time to think. First you need badges to have bigger level pokémon, but when you go to Kanto you can have 100 level pokémon with you if I remember right. So, why do you need those badges? Just because you wanna go to Mount Silver and beat Red. Then you have completed whole game. So, I think that game could have bigger levels in Johto (and Kanto) if you need Kanto badges to have more levels again. So you can't go with your biggest level pokémon to Kanto you have to start all over and Oak could give you a starter pokémon (Bulbasaur, Charmander, Squirtle) :D

This way the game has bigger level pokémon, but you can't go with your big level pokémon (it's sad, but good way to get bigger level pokémon to HeartGold and SoulSilver). Starter pokémon, because I become too sad, when I have to leave my Typhlosion to box, but I can have Charmander!

I don't know what do you people think about my idea, but it sounds good to me :P
Please, say would this be a good or bad thing.
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Now maybe if they added some pokemon or made some of the evolve.
If this isn't good, then tell me and you can use this information to use for further information. Like if your going to give your take on the Gyms, then you can change this.
Faulkner : Raise Pidgeys level to 10 and pidgeottos to about level 18 to be right with its evolution. Or maybe a little lower.

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Bugsy : Evolve Metapod and Kakuna
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Lv. 14 Kakuna
Lv. 16 Scyther
Whitney : Evolve Clefairy
Lv. 18 Clefairy
Lv. 20 Miltank
Morty : Evolve Gastly and one Haunter
Lv. 21 Gastly
Lv. 21 Haunter
Lv. 25 Gengar
Lv. 23 Haunter
Jasmine :Evolve the Magnemite
Lv. 30 Magnemite
Lv. 30 Magnemite
Lv. 35 Steelix
Chuck :Raise there level a bit :
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I think he meant Satoshi Tijiri (the creator of Pokemon.)

They should make the elite four level 60s or at least mid level 50s.

Red can have Pokemon in the level 90s or 100s.

If the Kanto gyms levels were raised, I'd like to be able to encounter some strong wild Pokemon as well.

I hope some of them get a wardrobe update like someone else has mentioned. I doubt Jasmine would seeing as her overworld sprite was in Diamond, Pearl and Platinum. She was still wearing the same white dress. However, that doesn't mean that some can't get a new look. *coughWhitneycough*
No way. The Elite Four should be in the seventies.
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Whatever. I don't care what levels the Elite Four are. I just want to play already. I think it's obvious they'll up the levels seeing as how they made the levels in Platinum. It's underleveled compared to most games, because most games came after Gold and Silver. They didn't change FrLg much compared to RBY because they didn't really need to. Hopefully, we'll be able to get through the game and end up with some Pokemon over level 80 by the time we can battle Red.
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thay just need more levels on gym leaders wild pokemon and some trainers
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i dont know why yall keep over rating pearl (barry to me lol)
i beat his lv 80s team wit only a lv 44typhlosion knowing flamethrower,earthquake,shadowclaw,and flame wheel
granted my typhlosion was lv 50 at the end of it but still dats sad when a lv40 can beat 80s and still be in the yellow wit out healing.
No wai.
Btw, whose's team? Barry's or Red's?

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they better up the levels in the gyms but keep kanto the same for the most part (kanto has always been a joke,but still even they need a lil attention).
they should completely change the elite four cuz they were PATHETIC back in g/s/c
Lance was boring,i used my purple(shiny) kingler wit ice punch (never really understood that) and pooned his butt!
Actually they do need to be raised, as you can go till level 100, but challenges end like in level 50 (Kanto Gyms, not counting Red). And I agree with you about Lance, He looks more like a Flying type trainer than a Dragon's one. (Check it, all his Pokés are Half flying). Karen was harder than him.

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lv 15 pigeot would be AWESOME!!!!! i would so use the cheat code to catch dat lol
pigeotto was catchable at lv9 in yellow so it is possible.
Man, don't go that far. You can catch Lv16 Dusclops in Platinum, I think.
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well its hard to level up in G/S/C so it was alright but yeah higher levels would be good :3
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They'll probably raise the levels a bit, and give you more trainers to battle so you can get your levels higher.
Or they could do nothing about it and have you zip through the game in a few days.

I'd prefer the first one :P
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I personally wish that Johto League would be a bit harder than in the original versions. It was way too easy to beat because you could easily train your pokémon to be over 60 leveled. XD Red was already nicely tough and I wish that his pokémon are atleast between levels 90 to 100. It would also be cool, if the Johto League´s teams would get upgraded after you´d travelled trough Kanto region. Like what happened after you had obtained that Sapphire or what ever stone it was that you had to get in FR/LG to be able to challenge E4 again. : DD
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Yeah, I'd like some higher levels too, especially in Kanto, it was way too easy. Playing through Gold again recently made me remember how underleveled the Pokemon in G/S/C really were compared to the other games. And Red with a lvl 96 Pikachu? That would be awesome!
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Red's team definitely needs to be improved. I took him down in Crystal with only a team of bug pokemon with levels<60. Also, the Kanto gym leaders desperately need improving, as do the levels of pokemon in Kanto and Mt Silver (and Johto, but only in the later parts of the region, Lake of Rage and Route 45 in particular). The Johto gyms/Elite Four were apparently low levels because there was another region afterwards, but the Kanto gym leaders were actually weaker than the Elite Four *facepalm*. Janine's team was especially terrible (lvl. 33 Ariados? My Feraligatr's lvl. 65 by now, it just has to blink to take it down).

I'd mostly improve the teams of the Johto gyms, levels only need significantly upping with Falkner. I'd put the Elite Four at levels 50-60, the Kanto gym leaders at 60-75ish, with the wild pokemon in Kanto at 40-60. Red's team would be as follows:

Pikachu (lvl. 90)
Snorlax (lvl. 86)
Venasaur (lvl. 87)
Charizard (lvl. 87)
Blastoise (lvl. 87)
Mewtwo (lvl. 92)

Now that would be a challenge!

Also, Silver's Magneton and Sneasel should be evolved into Magnezone and Weavile for the last 2/3 battles.
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I'd mostly improve the teams of the Johto gyms, levels only need significantly upping with Falkner. I'd put the Elite Four at levels 50-60, the Kanto gym leaders at 60-75ish, with the wild pokemon in Kanto at 40-60. Red's team would be as follows:

Pikachu (lvl. 90)
Snorlax (lvl. 86)
Venasaur (lvl. 87)
Charizard (lvl. 87)
Blastoise (lvl. 87)
Mewtwo (lvl. 92)

Now that would be a challenge!
While I agree that Red's team needs to be stronger, they will never give him a Mewtwo. It was Espeon in 2nd Gen, it will stay Espeon now.

Anyway, I know I've thrown this idea out several times in the past, but I really think that Pkmn needs a to allow you to choose your difficulty level at the beginning of the game, so that it's not too rediculous for kids but it can still keep older players engaged. Nintendo does it on other games. Metroid and Fire Emblem both have difficulty settings. Why not Pkmn?
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No wai.
Btw, whose's team? Barry's or Red's?
I think it's Barry's because Shadow Claw wasn't in Gen II.

I agree with stephen_swann_123 to evolve Clefairy, Magnemite, Metapod and Kakuna.
As many people have said before, Morty deserves a Misdreavus > His 2nd Haunter.

If all what I said above happened, and a slight increase in levels and a lot of AI, I would be pleased.
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While I agree that Red's team needs to be stronger, they will never give him a Mewtwo. It was Espeon in 2nd Gen, it will stay Espeon now.
Not only that, but Mewtwo would just be cheap. Giving any storyline characters a legendary would just be silly unless they had a valid reasoning--and I don't think they'll go that far when Red has already been established to have an Espeon.

That said, a difficulty level option would be ace. That way, people who want a challenge will get it and little kids (a.k.a the target audience) won't get frustrated and abandon the game.
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