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Wasn't Teddiursa catchable in the first part of Dark Cave? It was rare, but you could still find it.
Yes, in Crystal we could find Teddiursa in the Dark Cave, and it was rare as you stated. However, for Gold it was unavailable and could only be obtained through trading with Silver. As for Silver, Teddiursa was found on Route 45, and it was just a tad difficult to find because it wasn't as common. Now, we may be able to catch Teddirusa early once more, but that is if they go with Crystal's foundation on where Pokémon appeared rather than how it was in the original Gold and Silver, but we'll see. They could also change it up a bit to follow something new as well. This could be a reason why we see some Pokémon earlier in the scans, so it is a good fact you pointed out.
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Every photo is great, once the american site opens i'd love to be on that site.
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Yes, in Crystal we could find Teddiursa in the Dark Cave, and it was rare as you stated. However, for Gold it was unavailable and could only be obtained through trading with Silver. As for Silver, Teddiursa was found on Route 45, and it was just a tad difficult to find because it wasn't as common. Now, we may be able to catch Teddirusa early once more, but that is if they go with Crystal's foundation on where Pokémon appeared rather than how it was in the original Gold and Silver, but we'll see. They could also change it up a bit to follow something new as well. This could be a reason why we see some Pokémon earlier in the scans, so it is a good fact you pointed out.
I think the game should go more with a "Crystal-Like" gamefeaturethingy with a bunch of crystal features.

Also, the girl sprite looks quite cool. Not as cool as Kris.
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This site has me excited..
I especially love the map, and the image of ecruteak.
I'm just kinda worried.. Although the Bullet train track appears to be in the map..
There's always the small possibility we won't be able to go to kanto..
Since the player could always just use the gate you use to get to the pokémon league to get to mount silver.
I hope to god they include kanto, though.
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This site has me excited..
I especially love the map, and the image of ecruteak.
I'm just kinda worried.. Although the Bullet train track appears to be in the map..
There's always the small possibility we won't be able to go to kanto..
Since the player could always just use the gate you use to get to the pokémon league to get to mount silver.
I hope to god they include kanto, though.
Well it has already been officially confirmed that Kanto will be in the games
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Well it has already been officially confirmed that Kanto will be in the games
:/ What is your definition of official XD We haven't gotten any evidence other than some images that show routes that connect Kanto and Johto, which just says that Kanto exists (which we all know it exists) but that doesn't confirm that we can go there in-game :/
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:/ What is your definition of official XD We haven't gotten any evidence other than some images that show routes that connect Kanto and Johto, which just says that Kanto exists (which we all know it exists) but that doesn't confirm that we can go there in-game :/
Well I was on Bulbapedia a few days ago and it said that Kanto had been officially confirmed...
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Well I was on Bulbapedia a few days ago and it said that Kanto had been officially confirmed...
Yeah, I saw that... but from all the scans I've seen there has been nothing [text-wise] that remotely confirms that Kanto is playable :/ They need to fire their translators :P (they got that from Pkmn.net, so I guess I mean them lol :P )
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Yeah, I saw that... but from all the scans I've seen there has been nothing [text-wise] that remotely confirms that Kanto is playable :/ They need to fire their translators :P (they got that from Pkmn.net, so I guess I mean them lol :P )
Yeah I guess you're right.. It probably would need to be in text first from like Coro Coro or from the HG/SS website.
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Yeah I guess you're right.. It probably would need to be in text first from like Coro Coro or from the HG/SS website.
Yeah, it was kind of fishy from the start, because they didn't even specify where, they just said that their translators were looking over one of the scans, and determined that it said that Kanto was available :/ If anyone knows more information about that I would love to know, because maybe, just maybe they saw something I overlooked :P They said they got it from a CoroCoro scan, and the only one that mentions Kanto really is the 2 page one with character bios :/ I wonder where they think they saw this information XP
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They probably misread the part between the team rocket, which mentions them having progressed from kanto to Johto.

I'm sure if/when they announce kanto, it will be in big fat red letters all over the place.
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Yeah, I saw that... but from all the scans I've seen there has been nothing [text-wise] that remotely confirms that Kanto is playable :/ They need to fire their translators :P (they got that from Pkmn.net, so I guess I mean them lol :P )
No, because what people are saying is correct. Kanto has been "officially" confirmed to be included in the remakes. For starters in the map, it shows Route 22 which is located in Kanto itself. As for reference on the statement, a UK website had revealed information about Kanto being included. It was stated in Bulbapedia as said and it was stated on site as well. So, Kanto is "officially" confirmed to be included.

At first, with just the images we have here seemed like a possibility. The Magnet Train and its tracks leading East, and then the sighting of Route 22. It was only a few hours or a day later that we heard about the UK site revealing such information through translation. Plus, the information on it has been referred between other forum sites as well.
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No, because what people are saying is correct. Kanto has been "officially" confirmed to be included in the remakes. For starters in the map, it shows Route 22 which is located in Kanto itself. As for reference on the statement, a UK website had leaked information about Kanto being included. It was stated in Bulbapedia as said and it was stated on site as well. So, Kanto is "officially" confirmed to be included.

At first, with just the images we have here seemed like a possibility. The Magnet Train and its tracks leading East, and then the sighting of Route 22. It was only a few hours or a day later that we heard about the UK site revealing such information through translation. Plus, the information on it has been referred between other forum sites as well.
Where does it mention leaked information? The only article about it on bulbapedia I can find says that translators found it on a CoroCoro scan :/ What kind of leak was that? Word of mouth? That hardly makes anything official :P

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They probably misread the part between the team rocket, which mentions them having progressed from kanto to Johto.

I'm sure if/when they announce kanto, it will be in big fat red letters all over the place.
I agree, I think that's what happened because a ton of people who were translating made the same mistake at first... :/ I don't know where this leak buisness came from :P
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Still, why would Game Freak go through all of the trouble to make the magnet train and Route 22 if Kanto wasn't going to be included?
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Still, why would Game Freak go through all of the trouble to make the magnet train and Route 22 if Kanto wasn't going to be included?
Appeal to the eye :/ I agree with you guys saying that Kanto should be in the games, but as far as I have seen, there has been no official announcement that Kanto WILL infact be playable in the game. Even though it seems like it will be there, that doesn't justify saying confirmed :P
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Appeal to the eye :/ I agree with you guys saying that Kanto should be in the games, but as far as I have seen, there has been no official announcement that Kanto WILL infact be playable in the game. Even though it seems like it will be there, that doesn't justify saying confirmed :P
Yeah, had to edit that part as "leaked" wasn't the right word to use. However, the map shown extends too far East for it not to include Kanto. Not to mention, Route 22 shouldn't be shown for appeal as it would give off false advertisement for the game. This one route connected Johto and Viridian City together, and usually what the Sugimori maps provide is what is brought into the games [or so it has been for quite some time now]. The art of the map included the Magnet Train, which is only used for travel through Goldenrod to Kanto, so for it to be shown it only refers that it'll be brought back keeping its own use like the original GSC games. So, for it to include the Tohjo Falls and Route 22 so far East would only bring attention to having Kanto brought in.

Here, at the community in the map thread it has even been pointed out and gives good facts behind the theory of it being brought back. Now, the translations from the UK site, they were very accurate on what was said, so it isn't like you can't trust it, but it brings up a good point. Also, like said, Kanto was and is a vital part to the game, so seeing it brought back wouldn't be a surprise.
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Yeah, had to edit that part as "leaked" wasn't the right word to use. However, the map shown extends too far East for it not to include Kanto. Not to mention, Route 22 shouldn't be shown for appeal as it would give off false advertisement for the game. This one route connected Johto and Viridian City together, and usually what the Sugimori maps provide is what is brought into the games [or so it has been for quite some time now]. The art of the map included the Magnet Train, which is only used for travel through Goldenrod to Kanto, so for it to be shown it only refers that it'll be brought back keeping its own use like the original GSC games. So, for it to include the Tohjo Falls and Route 22 so far East would only bring attention to having Kanto brought in.

Here, at the community in the map thread it has even been pointed out and gives good facts behind the theory of it being brought back. Now, the translations from the UK site, they were very accurate on what was said, so it isn't like you can't trust it, but it brings up a good point. Also, like said, Kanto was and is a vital part to the game, so seeing it brought back wouldn't be a surprise.
I don't really know what to say about the map thing :/ It can really go either way, again, they are not going to deny that Kanto exists :/ Think about the future generations, the Pokemon world is roughly based off of Japan, they have run out of the major islands (Hokkaido = Sinnoh, Kyushu = Hoenn, and then Johto and Kanto = (part of) Honshu) Any future generations are almost going to have to be taking place on Honshu as well. One thing that you can see when looking at Johto, is that a small little part of it touches on where Shikoku would be in Japan based on where it is. Does that mean that the future generation that takes place on (probably a mix of) Shikoku/Chugoku MUST be connected to Johto, which in turn is connected to Kanto, so that game MUST have all three regions in it? :/ Just because something is on the map, doesn't mean that they are going to deny that it's there. It doesn't say much about availability during gameplay :P As far as the accuracy goes, how do you know that they are deadly accurate?
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According to them, it is only a rumor!! ... that took some good translating, it says it right in the scan Dialga, Palkia and Giratina :/
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Female Rocket Grunt has blue hair but in the art her hair is pink right?
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The Ecruteak Gym looks like a Battle Tent. That isn't a good thing.
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Well to be exact the design/color scheme of each gym matches the type of pokemon it is known for. For example, the gym has that purple lining because it holds ghost type pokemon and in the distance the mahogany town gym is light blue for the the ice type pokemon.
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Female Rocket Grunt has blue hair but in the art her hair is pink right?
It is true that in the scans the Team Rocket grunts were given pink-like hair. So, either in the game it is altered a bit, or this sprite has something of a more importance to the game. Whichever it is, we may find out later as the basic plot of the game begins to unravel itself after ten years since the originals.

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The Ecruteak Gym looks like a Battle Tent. That isn't a good thing.
Like said, they are gyms with a new structure and their own color to match their type. I wouldn't consider this a bad change at all, because it is something new. GameFreak tried to achieve something that wasn't done to other gyms in past games. Plus, it is kind of a benefit to the players, because if they may have forgotten what type the Gym Leader is, at least the represented color would give off an instant clue.
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Wow, you seem excited ^_^ haha lol

I freaked out to when I saw that :P
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