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Old July 10th, 2009 (10:03 PM).
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As we all know, Kris is not the female player for HG/SS but rather a new girl. For a while I was wondering why she wasn't put in, but a number of people said that these are G/S remakes, and not Crystal remakes. This made sense for me, so I left it at that.

However, we now know that Eusine is going to be in the remakes. What I don't get is why Gamefreak didn't put in Kris, the female player from Crystal, but they decided to put in Eusine, a Crystal exclusive character.

Note that while I would have preferred Kris, I don't have anything against this new character. I'm just curious (and a bit confused :P).
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Old July 10th, 2009 (10:09 PM).
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Due to her similar hair and the revelation that HeartGold and SoulSilver will incorporate Crystal elements, it is believed by many fans that she is to Kris what Leaf is to Blue: a vastly redesigned version of her. As Kris's Special counterpart Crystal likewise had brown hair initially (though it was changed to blue to match her counterparts of Kris and Marina), and currently has brown hair again. Given this ambiguity, as well as a lack of information on HeartGold and SoulSilver currently, this article will remain until a potential confirmation of Soul's identity.
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Maybe she wasn't cute enough for drawing in the girl Pokefans.
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Because GameFreak wanted a change. :D

At least it still has a female player, and she still looks like a bit like Crystal.

It could be worse, they could've thrown Dawn in there. >__>

Would we rather have had Dawn??
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It could be worse, they could've thrown Dawn in there. >__>

Would we rather have had Dawn??
I guess that's correct. Dawn? No way!! >_<

But she may at least get a cameo in HG/SS as there's still time before the release.
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Soul's just Kris with better clothes & brown hair -____-
I personally liked Dawn, MAY WAS THE WORST, lets hope they dont bring her back.
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[QUOTE=Ryanniny;4844008]Soul's just Kris with better clothes & brown hair -____-
I personally liked Dawn, MAY WAS THE WORST, lets hope they dont bring her back.[/QUOTE]

Maybe true, but many of us don't consider her the original. But as eusiene is back one can also hope for the original Kris to return. Not as the form of Soul but as a trainer in-game.

May was not WORST!! She was much better than dawn in my opinion. And BTW I was not calling Dawn WORST!(Everyone has different opinions and thus please try to avoid calling any character bad or worst!>_>)
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Soul's just Kris with better clothes & brown hair -____-
I personally liked Dawn, MAY WAS THE WORST, lets hope they dont bring her back.
This is all true. Kris had a makeover and a namechange. That is all.

May's hair is horrible. She needs to use better shampoo and conditioner.
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Soul's just Kris with better clothes & brown hair -____-
I personally liked Dawn, MAY WAS THE WORST, lets hope they dont bring her back.
I think Dawn was fine, May didn't look that good, but she's still alright.

I also agree that Soul is just Kris with brown hair. She looks fine, so I'm not bothered much.
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If that's Kris, then her way of fashion has degraded heavily.
I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH HIROSHI!!! (Thank goodness there are other Kris fans like me.... I was just getting a bit lonely.... Thanks Hiroshi!).Actually I don't mind the new girl but want the original Kris to do at least a cameo!
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Maybe you show put in mind that gold isnt in the remakes he just weres similer clothes and weres them differently
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Maybe you show put in mind that gold isnt in the remakes he just weres similer clothes and weres them differently
I don't think so... Gold and Kris's cases are completely different!( and please try not to be rude the next time!)
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Even if Kris wasnt in G/S she's still the Generation II girl. Maybe Gold dumped Kris for Soul (Kris is hotter so idk why)

I hope Ash Ketchum at Mt. Silver doesn't look like his FR/LG sprite.
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If that's Kris, then her way of fashion has degraded heavily.
And that made me disagree with one of my previous statements. XD

There is a good point in that statement, but I'm not really bothered about the new heroine. Kris and Soul both look fine, and though you say that Kris is better dressed, I still think that either of them suit the heroine role.

Though I wouldn't say no to Kris having a cameo. I guess I'd still choose her over Soul.
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I hope Ash Ketchum at Mt. Silver doesn't look like his FR/LG sprite.
Sorry but its not Ash but Red. Red is not Ash. They both are each other's counterparts but they are not the same. About Kris: She will be in!(maybe)
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Because GameFreak wanted a change. :D

At least it still has a female player, and she still looks like a bit like Crystal.

It could be worse, they could've thrown Dawn in there. >__>

Would we rather have had Dawn??
I'll rather have Dawn then to have this "new person". The "new person" looks very weird


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Sorry but its not Ash but Red. Red is not Ash. They both are each other's counterparts but they are not the same. About Kris: She will be in!(maybe)
I knew that I call him Ash for the novelty factor of it
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I honestly don't know why this is such a big deal. :/
New girl, while far less hawt, reminds me of Kris enough to make me think it's simply a redesign. Who said she is a completely different character?
On that note, I'd prefer it greatly if Kris did make it as an NPC, preferably traveling with Eusine or some such. She was the best female character, IMO. I'd even play as her sometimes just so my sprite wasn't orange.
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I just hope she does get a cameo.

You meet her in Mt. Silver and she's lost.
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I guess they just wanted to try something new.

Everyone says she looks so weird, but all of the girls' looked weird or wore things that I 've never seen anyone wear. Leaf was the most normal looking one, but she still wore colors that I've never seen anyone pair together and talk about pulling your socks up...
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I have to agree that she is a fassion disaster personally. Kris was what got me to use a female character in the games lol. Support the roots people lol.
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In my opinion, what Crystal introduced was the playable female, not Kris as is. We have a playable female so technically that Crystal feature was never removed as most people seem to be implying.

Of course, I'm probably just biased because Kris was my least favorite female. It's not that she's ugly or that I didn't like her, I just like the new girl better. I appreciate being able to play as someone who actually looks like me. My not being blinded by nostalgia also helps, since I didn't actually play Crystal until I was almost 14. I like the new girl's hair (it's pretty damn close to Kris's as is!), I like her clothes, and I love her hat. D:

If you insist on bashing her, at least wait for the game to come out and see how much of an emotionless drone she is. :/
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If they were to remove the Crystal-exclusive features for HGSS, it would almost be a downgrade in terms of storyline. :/


I'm with Melodyfree about Kris being my least favorite female heroine. Yes, it was a breakthrough to finally play as a female, but I prefer other leads to her, including the new girl. I don't really mind the new girl's outfit either, since I always perceived the fashion sense for all of the girls to be somewhat odd. :x

I wouldn't mind seeing Kris getting an appearance though. They may not have made her a main character, but I doubt Game Freak has completely forgotten about Kris. o____o
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I wouldn't mind seeing Kris getting an appearance though. They may not have made her a main character, but I doubt Game Freak has completely forgotten about Kris. o____o
That's exactly how I feel.... :D
If gamefreak has not forgotten Eusiene then Kris should also not be forgotten.
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I personally prefer Soul over Kris cause she reminds me of a Toad. As for why she isn't in, I like what Bulbapedia has down. Maybe that's how Cris was originally supposed to look :o

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