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Old July 11th, 2009 (9:53 AM).
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Because they felt like it or coarse,
They don't have to have some kind of huge mystery behind everything they do
they probably just thought that Soul is cuter o3o
and just didn't want to use our blue haired friend this time around


I wouldn't mind for Kris to make an appearance though, that'd be nice :D
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Old July 11th, 2009 (10:01 AM).
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They Just Didn't Want To Put Her In The Game.....The Same Way The Main Character In Pokemon Red,And Blue Wasn't The Same Main Character In Pokemon FireRed And LeafGreen.....
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Old July 11th, 2009 (10:05 AM).
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What's everyones beef with the new girl? I think she's fine, I personally like the look of brown hair and that red and white and blue outfit. Looks very Pokemon-ish.
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Old July 11th, 2009 (10:09 AM).
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I detested Dawn, all the others were ok, but my favourites are in this order:
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Old July 11th, 2009 (10:24 AM).
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What's everyones beef with the new girl? I think she's fine, I personally like the look of brown hair and that red and white and blue outfit. Looks very Pokemon-ish.
I said in the first post that I don't have anything against Kris getting replaced. I'm just curious about why it was done.
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Old July 11th, 2009 (11:35 AM).
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Why Gamefreak decided to redesign the female character in these remakes, we may never know. There are still a few months left, so maybe someone who works there might say why in an interview between now and then, if someone happens to ask.

Besides, the new girl is kind of cute, in a way.
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Old July 11th, 2009 (11:48 AM).
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The reason why has always been announced by the creators - they want to make it more than a remake, they want to make it feel more like a new game. New game = new heroine.
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Un, I miss the old Kris... She was basically a combination of Dawn and May, except slightly cooler. Sure her outfit made her look like one of those people that run miles from 4:00 in the morning to 12:00 in the afternoon... but honestly i think it's better than some cowgirl with looooong socks and a huge hat. o_O Plus, if yu look at the official artwork, Soul's Brown hair isn't nearly as "sharp" as what Kris's was. I'm convinced they ditched the 2nd coolest female character. (first being Blue/Leaf)
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Old July 11th, 2009 (4:36 PM).
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its most likely shell have a Cameo... but the new girl is still pretty damn cute
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I think they just wanted to give fanservice. Kris looked more boyish than the new girl, imo. So they went for the cute look--and I think they overdid it.
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As we all know, Kris is not the female player for HG/SS but rather a new girl. For a while I was wondering why she wasn't put in, but a number of people said that these are G/S remakes, and not Crystal remakes. This made sense for me, so I left it at that.

However, we now know that Eusine is going to be in the remakes. What I don't get is why Gamefreak didn't put in Kris, the female player from Crystal, but they decided to put in Eusine, a Crystal exclusive character.

Note that while I would have preferred Kris, I don't have anything against this new character. I'm just curious (and a bit confused :P).
There are two reasons behind this:

1 - They are not making a crystal remake, so they are not going to add the crystal girl Kris
2 - Kris and Gold do not even remotely look similar, the FR and LG players looked alike so they made a girl that looked similar to Gold (soul now) and her name is Heart.
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There are two reasons behind this:

1 - They are not making a crystal remake, so they are not going to add the crystal girl Kris
2 - Kris and Gold do not even remotely look similar, the FR and LG players looked alike so they made a girl that looked similar to Gold (soul now) and her name is Heart.
1 - Then, can you answer :Why can I see some of the crystal elements in the remakes of G/S?
2 - Its not about looks! It never was! Do you find anything similar in Brendan and May or even Lucas and Dawn? I really don't find your reason fitting to be a reason because of which Kris was removed. Its not very logical.

Please don't get mad but I am just telling what I feel. I too think that the new girl is kinda cute and and her OW is also good but I certainly can't see a rock-solid reason for which Kris can not even get a cameo! And I am one of the people who don't believe that the new girl is Kris. I don't oppose the new girl but am confused (like shadow lugia) for why Kris was replaced. All in all, I think that if Kris is replaced then its okay. But, she not getting even a cameo is NOT OKAY!
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1 - They are not making a crystal remake, so they are not going to add the crystal girl Kris
Um....no offense, but did you actually read the first post?
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Old July 12th, 2009 (10:09 AM).
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I really don't see the reason for this whole new girl thing. Maybe they wanted her to look more natural? Like solaris said, we may never know. They might give Kris a cameo. (hopefully)

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At least it still has a female player
I would have went on a rampage of destruction if they didn't let you play as a girl. That would not have been cool at all.
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Old July 12th, 2009 (10:47 AM). Edited July 13th, 2009 by Mew~.
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I guess that's correct. Dawn? No way!! >_<

But she may at least get a cameo in HG/SS as there's still time before the release.
sorry if it sounded lyk i was trying to be "rude".

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Old July 12th, 2009 (11:25 AM). Edited July 12th, 2009 by Pokestick, good times..
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Hm. Well, I guess Soul looks a little bit more like she's from Johto now, with overall and an... Enourmus... Hat. I' still not gonna play as her, though, (the only female main character I can even think of playin' as is Leaf (she's A LOT better than all the other gals put together)) so I dunno why I care... But I must admit that I too (like everybody else) think it's weird that Kris is replaced.
I don't really think of her (Soul) as Kris with a new haircut and with clothes that her mother picked for her, so she won't get dirty, I resemble her as... Copycat? It's weird, but to me, Copycat's real name is Soul, and Soul's nickname is Copycat. It doesn't make sense in-game, as she lives on two different locations and are on two places at the same time, but it helpes me from goin' mad, and it makes sense in my fan-Manga. That's my way of seein' it.

And hair colour... I guess they're just blue and brown because most of the inhabitants of Japan are brunettes or black-haired, and blue looked better than black. Although, to me, for example Leaf is dark-blonde, just to... Not make me go mad.
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Old July 12th, 2009 (11:58 AM). Edited July 12th, 2009 by Mika555.
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Originally Posted by Bulbapedia: Soul(game) Article
Due to her similar hair and the revelation that HeartGold and SoulSilver will incorporate Crystal elements, it is believed by many fans that she is to Kris what Leaf is to Blue: a vastly redesigned version of her. As Kris's Special counterpart Crystal likewise had brown hair initially (though it was changed to blue to match her counterparts of Kris and Marina), and currently has brown hair again. Given this ambiguity, as well as a lack of information on HeartGold and SoulSilver currently, this article will remain until a potential confirmation of Soul's identity.
I know people have said this before but the relationship between the games Pokemon Special and the games are pretty distinct even more so than the anime. In fact the reason that I think that Kris Pokemon Special counterpart could have had brown hair was because of the sprite in spoiler:
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The sprite is a color panel swap of when Kris get Gold's sprite and vice versa. There was also a two color panal sprites that showed Gold with blue hair in the color panal swap. If the HGSS girl is a redesign of Kris, notice I said if then this sprite could then the reason the character hair was change to brown could have possibly something to do with the sprite in spoilers. Though hair color just may appear to be brown from the sprite, however it does not appear to be blue either. There are two site that display this sprite that I have seen which are PokemonElite2000.com and Pokestadium.com.

Though I will still play as a girl either way whether she is Kris or not because the character silent progonist and it will not affect the storyline in anyway and you can name your character whatever you want as well.
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I'd just like to say that this new girl is not out to replace Kris. She's out to replace Mario, but they accidentally put her in the wrong game.

You win
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The new girl is adorable, I don't get all the hate, be thankful we have a girl,
I mean, I expected kris too, but thats not how it went down. They wanted something different this time around, theres no big mystery behind it, they just felt like it
Or, they were playing mario and eating cream puffs while designing her >:
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I would be so relieved if Nintendo/Game Freak pulled a last minute switcheroo on us and made Kris the heroine after all

Fath chance of that happening though
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I think Kris will make a cameo sometime during the game. I mean they've done that for tons of characters throughout the game, so it wouldn't really be anything new. Maybe even a tag-team battle with her.

As for why she's not selectable... no one ever said they had to add EVERY Crystal element. Maybe they just wanted a new character or something. I don't really see the point either, but they changed Gold up a little bit too, so maybe they just figured they should just make someone else instead of change Kris :P
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i hope that kris has a cameo cuz she wuz my fav playable char i just luv those dang cycling shorts
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Soul's just Kris with better clothes & brown hair -____
Are you serious, you think that her clothes look better? The big poofy had is ugly and since when is Mario looking clothing BETTER? >.>

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My only complaint about Soul is that she doesn't have that post-pubescent "OMGWTFHAWTNESS" thing that Kris, Leaf, and (to a lesser extent) May and Dawn did, but when you think about the Pokemon world and how these girls are supposed to be 10 years old, you realize that Soul is actually the first one to actually look the part instead of having boobies and making older male fans happy in the pants. >_>
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Old July 12th, 2009 (7:13 PM). Edited July 12th, 2009 by Mika555.
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There are so many sides to the way people view this character. There are people who see the design as a new character and like her, you have people that see this character as a new design and hate the character, you have people that see that this is a redesign of Kris and like her, you have people see that this is a redesign of Kris and hate the design. Personal I am going to try to remain neutral toward whether the female character is Kris or not or whether how I feel about her until we get more information about her.:\
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Old July 12th, 2009 (7:27 PM).
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Wow, I REALLY hope Kris at least appears in HG/SS...I wish they'd have put her in there instead of the new girl--her outfit is TERRIBLE (sorry, that's just my personal opinion). But I suppose the new girl is okay, too....after all, these are remakes of Gold and Silver, not Crystal; and Kris only appeared as the main female character in Crystal...
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