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Old July 28th, 2009 (1:16 PM).
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G/S/C were consider complex when it come out.
I mean, a game with a day/night system, as well as a week system! That was breaking technology back then
Get with the times grandpa

Wait a second, you're calling me "Grandpa" because I'm calling a game that was complex in it's day simple!? HOW DOES THAT MAKE ANY SENSE!?
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I somewhat agree. I enjoyed FireRed so much that I'm sure I'll enjoy HeartGold just as much. But my god, if they even dare to add things like berrys and PokeTechs and all that stupid crap, I will be so damn pissed. Pokemon was so awesome when it was far simpler. I don't even know where I am or what I'm doing when I turn on Pearl. I just want the remakes to be a graphically enhanced version of game I loved as a child. I mean, seriously, whats with all of this Pokemon following you around bollocks?
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Wow, if you don't want to play HG and SS then don't, no one is forcing you to buy or play it. Also, let's not speak for everyone and say "we" all like the original. Me and my fiance still play the GSC and we are both excited for the HG/SS games, as well as many people at our college. So if you wanna complain, make sure you word it so it doesn't sound like your speaking for everyone.

To be honest I think you just wanna attract attention to yourself.
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Well, looks like HG/SS turned out to be an unethical conflict of interest. What, you honestly thought it was gonna be the same thing with 3-d graphics? You wanted a remake? Now ya got one...Honestly, whats the point of complaining about new features? Its the DS...youre gonna see something new. But youre not obliged too use any of them. PokeWalker, Pokethlon...just don't use them. If its not part of the main story, you don't have to use them. People will, people won't, but they don't have to complain about something they're not gonna use anyway...live a little...

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Back in MY day we had 150 monsters, and that was ALL you needed! None o' these new-fangled 'cutey' monsters for children!

Look at dat thereTauros. A fine specimen of a monster. Look at the new-age Tauros. A CARTOON COW. Disgraceful! We had Pikachu and Raichu, but that wasn't CUTE enough for CHILDREN so they added Pichu, the Baby. Then they added those two Minun and Plushie creatures, which are completely obvious knockoffs! That's right, IVE SEEN YOUR NEW MONSTERS! BAH! Tailow? HootHoot? Starly? BAH! Give me Pidgey any day! Sentret? Zigzagoon? BIDOOF? You young whippersnappers can paint a Ratatta brown, but it's still a Ratatta!

The new popular starter is CHICKCHAR or something. Hooey! Back in my day, if you wanted a flaming monkey, you threw a Mankey into a bonfire!

I must say, it's nice to see the developers haven't gotten creative. A hippopotamus called "Hippopotas"? That's almost as clever as a pile of muck called "Muk"! Shows that the first generation was the BEST generation!

But everything they try to change doesn't work! Take evolution for example. Well, we DIDNT evolve them because evolution is a heathen scam! Everytime they tried to evolve, we would stop them because they were Intelligently Designed to be the way they were. But at least science was simpler in those days. Creatures evolved by leveling, stones, and trading! We didn't need to equip any new-fangled Kings Rock while leveling up at dusk while fighting a Goldeen at Cinnabar Island with a happiness level of 200 and spare Rare Candy in the inventory! That's ridiculous!

Also, there are no male or female monster of the same species! If they were, they would be a DIFFERENT SPECIES like Nidoran is. I notice that you haven't tried to reclassify them as the same species. That's because they are the ONLY monster with genders! All them other monsters are a-sexual. They don't breed! You kids today pass your monsters to some hag, and she has to genetically engineer you a cross-bred creature. WHY ELSE WOULD CREATURES ONLY MULTIPLY IN A DAYCARE CENTER?

Speaking of evolution, you young punks can stop evolving my monsters! Lickitung, Tangela and Rhydon were useless enough without you tainting them with stripes and spikes and scowls! If we wanted them to evolve, we would have done it the old fashioned way: by putting three of them together! I see what you did to Magneton! IF WE WANTED MAGNETON TO EVOLVE, WE WOULD JUST PUT THREE TOGETHER.

YOUR TURTWIG IS A BULBASAUR WITH A LEAF ON ITS HEAD!

Where was I? Oh yeah, your fancy colors. We didn't have color back in my day! We had black and puke green and we were grateful! People at the store would say, "Welcome to Cerulean City, the most vibrant city in Kanto. Would you like to see a third color?" and you would reply, "No, sir, I am satisfied with two" because THATS THE WAY GOD MADE IT.

And what's with these monsters that roam around the whole region? I don't care if you are a legendary, you stay in ONE house or cave. YOU DONT MOVE. I tells ya, the whole world is loosing control. Pretty soon these creatures will all be free. What kind of world has no pocket monster fighting action paralleling cockfighting? I am not sure, but it's a world I want none to do with!

Maybe this old fool is too naive for this new world. But with God as my witness, I will keep my level 100 Charmander, level 100 Magikarp, and level 100 Pikachu by my side forever. You kids wouldn't understand because you're too busy 'evolving' your monsters, watching their stat-ee-vees and teachin' them moves to balance against your friends. What a waste of time! I could beat the Elite Four everytime, back when that MEANT something. So you can go fight strangers over them thar internets if you will, but as for me and my monsters, we will retire from a world which no longer needs us.

^ But that won't apply to these. HG/SS Rocks.
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Back in MY day we had 150 monsters, and that was ALL you needed! None o' these new-fangled 'cutey' monsters for children!

Look at dat thereTauros. A fine specimen of a monster. Look at the new-age Tauros. A CARTOON COW. Disgraceful! We had Pikachu and Raichu, but that wasn't CUTE enough for CHILDREN so they added Pichu, the Baby. Then they added those two Minun and Plushie creatures, which are completely obvious knockoffs! That's right, IVE SEEN YOUR NEW MONSTERS! BAH! Tailow? HootHoot? Starly? BAH! Give me Pidgey any day! Sentret? Zigzagoon? BIDOOF? You young whippersnappers can paint a Ratatta brown, but it's still a Ratatta!

The new popular starter is CHICKCHAR or something. Hooey! Back in my day, if you wanted a flaming monkey, you threw a Mankey into a bonfire!

I must say, it's nice to see the developers haven't gotten creative. A hippopotamus called "Hippopotas"? That's almost as clever as a pile of muck called "Muk"! Shows that the first generation was the BEST generation!

But everything they try to change doesn't work! Take evolution for example. Well, we DIDNT evolve them because evolution is a heathen scam! Everytime they tried to evolve, we would stop them because they were Intelligently Designed to be the way they were. But at least science was simpler in those days. Creatures evolved by leveling, stones, and trading! We didn't need to equip any new-fangled Kings Rock while leveling up at dusk while fighting a Goldeen at Cinnabar Island with a happiness level of 200 and spare Rare Candy in the inventory! That's ridiculous!

Also, there are no male or female monster of the same species! If they were, they would be a DIFFERENT SPECIES like Nidoran is. I notice that you haven't tried to reclassify them as the same species. That's because they are the ONLY monster with genders! All them other monsters are a-sexual. They don't breed! You kids today pass your monsters to some hag, and she has to genetically engineer you a cross-bred creature. WHY ELSE WOULD CREATURES ONLY MULTIPLY IN A DAYCARE CENTER?

Speaking of evolution, you young punks can stop evolving my monsters! Lickitung, Tangela and Rhydon were useless enough without you tainting them with stripes and spikes and scowls! If we wanted them to evolve, we would have done it the old fashioned way: by putting three of them together! I see what you did to Magneton! IF WE WANTED MAGNETON TO EVOLVE, WE WOULD JUST PUT THREE TOGETHER.

YOUR TURTWIG IS A BULBASAUR WITH A LEAF ON ITS HEAD!

Where was I? Oh yeah, your fancy colors. We didn't have color back in my day! We had black and puke green and we were grateful! People at the store would say, "Welcome to Cerulean City, the most vibrant city in Kanto. Would you like to see a third color?" and you would reply, "No, sir, I am satisfied with two" because THATS THE WAY GOD MADE IT.

And what's with these monsters that roam around the whole region? I don't care if you are a legendary, you stay in ONE house or cave. YOU DONT MOVE. I tells ya, the whole world is loosing control. Pretty soon these creatures will all be free. What kind of world has no pocket monster fighting action paralleling cockfighting? I am not sure, but it's a world I want none to do with!

Maybe this old fool is too naive for this new world. But with God as my witness, I will keep my level 100 Charmander, level 100 Magikarp, and level 100 Pikachu by my side forever. You kids wouldn't understand because you're too busy 'evolving' your monsters, watching their stat-ee-vees and teachin' them moves to balance against your friends. What a waste of time! I could beat the Elite Four everytime, back when that MEANT something. So you can go fight strangers over them thar internets if you will, but as for me and my monsters, we will retire from a world which no longer needs us.

^ But that won't apply to these. HG/SS Rocks.
Wow...simply amazing. I don't know how but it was the greatest thing I've ever read.
Now I understand what you were trying to say...I think...
Um...be thankful for what you get? Or maybe things are becoming unnecessary...
Something like that.
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Wait a second, you're calling me "Grandpa" because I'm calling a game that was complex in it's day simple!? HOW DOES THAT MAKE ANY SENSE!?
But the thing is, back when we played GSC, everyone one thought it was complex.
In 10 years, everyone will look back at HGSS and think how simple it is

Get it now grandpa?
take it easy on the grandpa joke, im only joking :). Besides, im probably around the same age, if not, older than you
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Back in MY day we had 150 monsters, and that was ALL you needed! None o' these new-fangled 'cutey' monsters for children!

Look at dat thereTauros. A fine specimen of a monster. Look at the new-age Tauros. A CARTOON COW. Disgraceful! We had Pikachu and Raichu, but that wasn't CUTE enough for CHILDREN so they added Pichu, the Baby. Then they added those two Minun and Plushie creatures, which are completely obvious knockoffs! That's right, IVE SEEN YOUR NEW MONSTERS! BAH! Tailow? HootHoot? Starly? BAH! Give me Pidgey any day! Sentret? Zigzagoon? BIDOOF? You young whippersnappers can paint a Ratatta brown, but it's still a Ratatta!

The new popular starter is CHICKCHAR or something. Hooey! Back in my day, if you wanted a flaming monkey, you threw a Mankey into a bonfire!

I must say, it's nice to see the developers haven't gotten creative. A hippopotamus called "Hippopotas"? That's almost as clever as a pile of muck called "Muk"! Shows that the first generation was the BEST generation!

But everything they try to change doesn't work! Take evolution for example. Well, we DIDNT evolve them because evolution is a heathen scam! Everytime they tried to evolve, we would stop them because they were Intelligently Designed to be the way they were. But at least science was simpler in those days. Creatures evolved by leveling, stones, and trading! We didn't need to equip any new-fangled Kings Rock while leveling up at dusk while fighting a Goldeen at Cinnabar Island with a happiness level of 200 and spare Rare Candy in the inventory! That's ridiculous!

Also, there are no male or female monster of the same species! If they were, they would be a DIFFERENT SPECIES like Nidoran is. I notice that you haven't tried to reclassify them as the same species. That's because they are the ONLY monster with genders! All them other monsters are a-sexual. They don't breed! You kids today pass your monsters to some hag, and she has to genetically engineer you a cross-bred creature. WHY ELSE WOULD CREATURES ONLY MULTIPLY IN A DAYCARE CENTER?

Speaking of evolution, you young punks can stop evolving my monsters! Lickitung, Tangela and Rhydon were useless enough without you tainting them with stripes and spikes and scowls! If we wanted them to evolve, we would have done it the old fashioned way: by putting three of them together! I see what you did to Magneton! IF WE WANTED MAGNETON TO EVOLVE, WE WOULD JUST PUT THREE TOGETHER.

YOUR TURTWIG IS A BULBASAUR WITH A LEAF ON ITS HEAD!

Where was I? Oh yeah, your fancy colors. We didn't have color back in my day! We had black and puke green and we were grateful! People at the store would say, "Welcome to Cerulean City, the most vibrant city in Kanto. Would you like to see a third color?" and you would reply, "No, sir, I am satisfied with two" because THATS THE WAY GOD MADE IT.

And what's with these monsters that roam around the whole region? I don't care if you are a legendary, you stay in ONE house or cave. YOU DONT MOVE. I tells ya, the whole world is loosing control. Pretty soon these creatures will all be free. What kind of world has no pocket monster fighting action paralleling cockfighting? I am not sure, but it's a world I want none to do with!

Maybe this old fool is too naive for this new world. But with God as my witness, I will keep my level 100 Charmander, level 100 Magikarp, and level 100 Pikachu by my side forever. You kids wouldn't understand because you're too busy 'evolving' your monsters, watching their stat-ee-vees and teachin' them moves to balance against your friends. What a waste of time! I could beat the Elite Four everytime, back when that MEANT something. So you can go fight strangers over them thar internets if you will, but as for me and my monsters, we will retire from a world which no longer needs us.

^ But that won't apply to these. HG/SS Rocks.
I am proud that at least someone shares some of my ideas.
Personally, I've felt this change after the second generation.
It seems, that you, my friend, sensed it after the first generation.

So, what about you, all 1st generation starters?
Do you fancy this giant step between the 1st and the 4th generation.

I like things that have a beginning, a middle and an end.
However, some think that pokemon are infinite.
Well, you now think that they are, but you'll soon discover, you are in a world that's more complex than the real one.

I have faith, that HG/SS can make a huge lap in pokemon games and bring back a lot positive responses, but, it's still impossible for them to return to our loved 151.

I remember the first time I saw a Mew. It was so shocking for me to see that my neighbour had something like that, while I didn't even know its existence.

I understand that Nindendo or Gamefreak or however it is, I don't mind, it's doing business out there and they are publishing more games, not because they still love it, like the first enthusiasm, but for simple commercial reasons.

Finally, I hope HearGold will far exceed all our expectations and will make the people that trully love pokemon get in touch once again, although I am pretty sure that won't happen.


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But the thing is, back when we played GSC, everyone one thought it was complex.
In 10 years, everyone will look back at HGSS and think how simple it is

Get it now grandpa?
take it easy on the grandpa joke, im only joking :). Besides, im probably around the same age, if not, older than you
I like jokes and I have to say it, this was a successful one.
The thing is, each time get much more complex. I do understand the great graphics improvement is part of our lives, but we need to stay close to our goal, which is not how to impress someone.
Also, in 10 years when we'll look back (I hope that we will both be fine, as life sometimes is unpredicted) I am not sure,whether we'll keep in touch with pokemon.
That's why I really want to see the end of this world.

Let something new and unique begin.
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Yes! Finally, someone showing some spirit! :D These games are going to be the most awesome games ever. =D

These games won't meet your expectations, they will exceed them. Even the guy from Nintendo said "expect great things."

I completely agree
I think HGSS will not only exceed our expectations, They'll make Johto the best region yet again
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I completely agree
I think HGSS will not only exceed our expectations, They'll make Johto the best region yet again
But i thought Johto was already the best region, so that would make it......THE MOST SUPER-DUPER OMEGA AWESOMENESS, DOUBLE-ULTRA COOLIO REGION!!!!!:D
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If you think HG/SS won't meet your expectations...I think you're too picky about what goes on in your games. I never heard anyone complain when they made FireRed and LeafGreen. Why should they complain now they are remaking another classic game? R/B/Y were the most simple you could get but I loved the new features in FireRed and LeafGreen. It made the game a lot easier and more fun.
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I think that the series didn't need all of these new pokemon. especially useless ones like luvdisc and bidoof, and that's why I can't wait until HG/SS.

Pokemon will go back to it's old simplicity.
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I think this thread is quite pointless.
It seems to me it's just another rant of someone who has nothing better to do but complain.
Why all the negativity?
Don't be childish. Think about the countless hours Gamefreak and Nintendo have spent slaving over this game. If you can't appreciate their life's work, then I say you are very stuck up and childish.

Find something to complain about that is actually bad and not something that is awesome.

Again, I will repeat what others have said. Someone called you 'Grandpa.' I think they said that rightfully so. The stereotypical grandpa sticks to old ways of doing things and never learns about new technology. I imagine there were even people who complained about having electricity and how they would prefer torches and crapping into a hole instead of light bulbs and toilets. You aren't much different. You prefer something old and clunky to something new and refreshing.

You argued that you liked the simplicity of the old games. (Well, you said 'we' trying to put words into our mouths.) Well, the older games were far more complicated and harder to play than the new ones. The current interface allows for very simple easy-to-understand game play. Heck, they even explain things in more depth so you don't have to figure it out yourself. (If you don't do massive online searches to find the minuscule details that most people don't know from just playing the game.)

In my opinion, you've got it completely backwards. The newer games are much, much simpler than the older games. It's even easier to see what is on the screen.
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I think this thread is quite pointless.
It seems to me it's just another rant of someone who has nothing better to do but complain.
Why all the negativity?
Don't be childish. Think about the countless hours Gamefreak and Nintendo have spent slaving over this game. If you can't appreciate their life's work, then I say you are very stuck up and childish.
Dude, I would slave over any game for the kind of money they make! They've got it made. You make it sound like they have a hard life and are struggling.
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Wait a second, you're calling me "Grandpa" because I'm calling a game that was complex in it's day simple!? HOW DOES THAT MAKE ANY SENSE!?
It's interesting how you've responded to one post that doesn't make 100% sense while ignoring plenty of others that were long, well-thougt out and, to be honest, ripped your arguments to shreds.

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Dude, I would slave over any game for the kind of money they make! They've got it made. You make it sound like they have a hard life and are struggling.
Once you've actually seen what it's like to be in their shoes, all of you will stop naïvely talking about how they only do it for the money. You have no idea who they are or what they think. It's only a stereotype that people who work in jobs that pay a lot only do it for the money. Video game developers are a special group of people who do their job when no one else can. They only get paid a lot, because there aren't many able to do what they do.
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If you think HG/SS won't meet your expectations...I think you're too picky about what goes on in your games. I never heard anyone complain when they made FireRed and LeafGreen. Why should they complain now they are remaking another classic game? R/B/Y were the most simple you could get but I loved the new features in FireRed and LeafGreen. It made the game a lot easier and more fun.
Because maybe some people can't live outside of the pass, threads like these get nowhere especially for a game that many people want to get.



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It's interesting how you've responded to one post that doesn't make 100% sense while ignoring plenty of others that were long, well-thougt out and, to be honest, ripped your arguments to shreds.

Just saying.
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Again, I will repeat what others have said. Someone called you 'Grandpa.' I think they said that rightfully so. The stereotypical grandpa sticks to old ways of doing things and never learns about new technology. I imagine there were even people who complained about having electricity and how they would prefer torches and crapping into a hole instead of light bulbs and toilets. You aren't much different. You prefer something old and clunky to something new and refreshing.

You argued that you liked the simplicity of the old games. (Well, you said 'we' trying to put words into our mouths.) Well, the older games were far more complicated and harder to play than the new ones. The current interface allows for very simple easy-to-understand game play. Heck, they even explain things in more depth so you don't have to figure it out yourself. (If you don't do massive online searches to find the minuscule details that most people don't know from just playing the game.)

In my opinion, you've got it completely backwards. The newer games are much, much simpler than the older games. It's even easier to see what is on the screen.
WTF? There wasn't all the excess crap in the old games. In the first there wasn't even separate pockets.

Simple - having few parts; not complex or complicated or involved
wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

Everything is more complex in the new games! Not only have you got normal pokeballs, you have Premiere balls, and dark balls, and cherish balls, and all that crap, and even though those were in Johto to, there were less and they were more easily seperated. The bags in the new games have more parts, and were more complex. The old games didn't have as many excess features, so they were less complex.


Clunky - Ungainly and awkward to use
(en.wiktionary.org/wiki/clunky)

The first games used a portable system that was sort of big, but decent. The new ones use this huge, dual-screened monster. That's clunky. Constantly switching between button and stylus control schemes? That's awkward, that's clunky. Having a Gameboy with one screen to play a game that only requires one screen? That's clu.... oh, wait, it ISN'T! And neither is completing all the dang tutorials before the second city, something Platinum can't accomplish!
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Meh, I just think a lot of you kids got your start playing Gen II games, and you don't want anything to screw around with that.

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I agree, Nintendo is working WAY to hard on this game, trying to make it perfect, when it's not needed. The reason people, IMO, like GSC so much, is because they were the only games that never had a re-make until now. When HG/SS comes out, people will stop playing GSC, and it will die out, like the rest of the originals.

I first read your avatar and signature, thinking you would be disagreeing, but I guess I thought wrong.

I really, have NO PROBLEM with any of these new features. I often wish I had running shoes in silver when I replay it, a long with a lot of other new features I'm used to. Sure, they seem stupid now, but if we just got the game, without changing anything (remember viridian forest? viridian TREE MAZE, I should say) I mean really, you need to calm down and realize that it will be completely fine with new features, and better in places (kanto, for example)
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Looks like somebody's afraid of change. :)
Maybe this guy isn't, but I am!
I finished Red not long after it came out, then got Silver... Then I stopped playing Pokemon games for a long time... Until Diamond came out...
Which is why, for me, Silver's remake is like... A second chance for me to get used to there being more than 151 Pokemon [and I should be used to it after Diamond, but... I always try to keep a 1st Gen team, simply because they're familiar... like a big happy family of monsters I've been away from for a long time. lol]...

By the way, has anyone noticed that the 2nd gen Pokemon seem to be duller colours than the first one? I was looking at some pictures of second gen game pokemon as they are in the anime, and the seem to be a lot more browns, greens, etc to me...
I dunno, could it be that Nintendo were going to become more realistic for a time?

[Also, on topic... The phone feature could be interesting with a touch screen... But that depends on how they do it. Perhaps the phone could replace the Poketch, and then it's separate from the bag, which makes sense, because who keeps their phone in their backpack whilst travelling?]

Anyhow, that be me thoughts... To the dude who started this... chill. Play the originals for a bit to cool yourself off... Let the bare necessities come to you [guess what movie's playing in my living room?... lol]
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Case 1: the starters.
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Case 2: Confusing order.
Apart from the confusion with Mew being after Mewtwo for reasons unknown, the order makes sense. However, we get devolutions of Pokemon in later on series', like Pichu, and that freakish looking Magmar prevolution...


Case 3: Jigglypuff is a Pokemon that only real men use... Or any Pokemon capable of Sing... You have to be tough to use it in a real battle...

Case 4: Without the originals, the new ones wouldn't exist. i.e. There can be no chimchar if there was no charmander...
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Funny how they can spell and make sense, too.



WTF? There wasn't all the excess crap in the old games. In the first there wasn't even separate pockets.

Simple - having few parts; not complex or complicated or involved
wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

Everything is more complex in the new games! Not only have you got normal pokeballs, you have Premiere balls, and dark balls, and cherish balls, and all that crap, and even though those were in Johto to, there were less and they were more easily seperated. The bags in the new games have more parts, and were more complex. The old games didn't have as many excess features, so they were less complex.


Clunky - Ungainly and awkward to use
(en.wiktionary.org/wiki/clunky)

The first games used a portable system that was sort of big, but decent. The new ones use this huge, dual-screened monster. That's clunky. Constantly switching between button and stylus control schemes? That's awkward, that's clunky. Having a Gameboy with one screen to play a game that only requires one screen? That's clu.... oh, wait, it ISN'T! And neither is completing all the dang tutorials before the second city, something Platinum can't accomplish!

The DS is easier to navigate, it makes game more simple, to get through

Back in the day, we only had one pocket, these days, we have more space and organization, we don't have to worry about picking up an item only to discover we can't fit it in. how is that simple? now all we have to do is grab a item, and thats the end of it. if we want to get an item out, we have convienient little pictures to show us which pocket is for what.
its organized, therefore easier to find things

The extra Pokeballs make catching pokemon easier,
we have dusk balls to make catching at night and in caves far EASIER than with a ultra ball,

im not sure why you mentioned cherish balls, if im not mistaken, you can't actually USE a cherish ball /facepalm

LOLWUT? the gameboy was fat and clunky as heck
The DS is slim, not huge, and its easier to hold because its wider and more like a controller than a remote

That fat chunky piece of equipment with a tiny ass screen?
thats awkward.
plus, we have to replace batteries on that thing, if you don't have batteries, no soup game for you.
and you can't tell if your low on power, so it may just turn right off on you
the DS: Light turns red? just plug it in and continue, Plus we have a backlight.

no we don't have to "constantly switch between touch and button controls" just pick one way to control and let it be the end of it. only time you have to use the buttons in DPPT is to open the menu, and to talk

The tutorials MAKE IT MUKTING EASIER FOR NEWBIES TO PLAY
once again YOU ARE NOT THE ONLY ONE PLAYING, THERE ARE NEW FANS PLAYING THE GAMES, NOT JUST YOU / ewww caps rape D;

you're going to have to get used to it.
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If you were expecting a Pokemon Game of today to be simple then I dont know what world you come from.

I agree. There's too many Pokemon...
People look at me oddly when I claim that Zapdos was the best legendary [hey, it looks and feels good to play with Zapdos...], and then they go into huge amounts of reasoning why Celebi, Luigia [I think that's what it's called...], or Dialga, since it created the world [or was it just Sinnoh? I forget.]...
And then I simply say: It's a freaking bird that electrocutes things- what more do you want?

Another thing is the constant repetition in the games...
Well, kinda.
As I've said previously somewhere in these forums, I've only played Red, Silver, and Diamond... Fire red was via roms, after buying and then losing the original kart I had...
So, after Red, I kinda was getting fed up of Rattatas and Pidgeys everywhere. Then Silver. Ookay... somewhat different with the HootHoots nearby.
But then... Something bad happened.
Whoever made the games should be shot for what happened in Diamond.
Bidoof. The fat... Beavery thing Pokemon. aka: water-type Ratatta
Starly. The Starling. aka: um... Pidgey with different sprite and natural moveset?
I mean... they really should have changed it a bit more than that... How about next original game, Nintendo, you put realistic areas for Pokemon to be in. I mean... why would we get a Beaver outside of water? In fact, they rarely come out of water 'cept to get wood, as fas as I know...
And how about some ecosystems? Pokemon that were designed to look like they eat each other?
i.e. A cheetah that attacks a deer that's attacking a plant pokemon. makes sense, no?

And there's my fresh thoughts. I'm sleepy now, so good afternoon!
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Original 151 were the best.
Case 1: the starters.
The original Lizard Starters could eat any of the later on ones easily... :P

Case 2: Confusing order.
Apart from the confusion with Mew being after Mewtwo for reasons unknown, the order makes sense. However, we get devolutions of Pokemon in later on series', like Pichu, and that freakish looking Magmar prevolution...


Case 3: Jigglypuff is a Pokemon that only real men use... Or any Pokemon capable of Sing... You have to be tough to use it in a real battle...

Case 4: Without the originals, the new ones wouldn't exist. i.e. There can be no chimchar if there was no charmander...
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