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WTF? There wasn't all the excess crap in the old games. In the first there wasn't even separate pockets.

Simple - having few parts; not complex or complicated or involved
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Everything is more complex in the new games! Not only have you got normal pokeballs, you have Premiere balls, and dark balls, and cherish balls, and all that crap, and even though those were in Johto to, there were less and they were more easily seperated. The bags in the new games have more parts, and were more complex. The old games didn't have as many excess features, so they were less complex.


Clunky - Ungainly and awkward to use
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The first games used a portable system that was sort of big, but decent. The new ones use this huge, dual-screened monster. That's clunky. Constantly switching between button and stylus control schemes? That's awkward, that's clunky. Having a Gameboy with one screen to play a game that only requires one screen? That's clu.... oh, wait, it ISN'T! And neither is completing all the dang tutorials before the second city, something Platinum can't accomplish!
You know, after reading this, I think the problem isn't that Pokemon games have gotten too complicated or terrible, but you just don't have any interest in this series anymore. There's nothing wrong with that. People grow out of stuff all the time.

You say that Gen 4 is terrible compared to Gen 2(Which you've played in your childhood) to help comfort yourself with the that you don't like the franchise anymore.

HGSS remaking Gold and Silver and applying new, "confusing" things to what you enjoyed in childhood scares you, so you decided come here and post your gripes with what you're not used as a way to prove to yourself that there's nothing wrong with not loving something that you used to when you were younger so you can move on.

If that's the case, I suggest you get over your displeasure with the franchise and focus on hobbies or whatever that genuinely hold your interest, and leave people who still like Pokemon and are excited for HGSS to their own devices.

If the above isn't the case, then you're probably a troll trying to get a reaction from everyone here. Either, way no one here should bother arguing with you since your stance probably won't change.

Feel free to give an angry response to this, but I won't bother replying.
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The DS is easier to navigate, it makes game more simple, to get through

Back in the day, we only had one pocket, these days, we have more space and organization, we don't have to worry about picking up an item only to discover we can't fit it in. how is that simple? now all we have to do is grab a item, and thats the end of it. if we want to get an item out, we have convienient little pictures to show us which pocket is for what.
its organized, therefore easier to find things

The extra Pokeballs make catching pokemon easier,
we have dusk balls to make catching at night and in caves far EASIER than with a ultra ball,

im not sure why you mentioned cherish balls, if im not mistaken, you can't actually USE a cherish ball /facepalm

LOLWUT? the gameboy was fat and clunky as heck
The DS is slim, not huge, and its easier to hold because its wider and more like a controller than a remote

That fat chunky piece of equipment with a tiny ass screen?
thats awkward.
plus, we have to replace batteries on that thing, if you don't have batteries, no soup game for you.
and you can't tell if your low on power, so it may just turn right off on you
the DS: Light turns red? just plug it in and continue, Plus we have a backlight.

no we don't have to "constantly switch between touch and button controls" just pick one way to control and let it be the end of it. only time you have to use the buttons in DPPT is to open the menu, and to talk

The tutorials MAKE IT MUKTING EASIER FOR NEWBIES TO PLAY
once again YOU ARE NOT THE ONLY ONE PLAYING, THERE ARE NEW FANS PLAYING THE GAMES, NOT JUST YOU / ewww caps rape D;

you're going to have to get used to it.
First, it's not simpler when you have to navigate through the flipping pockets just to figure out where your potion is. It's not simpler with pockets at ALL, you crazy loon, it's no longer, do I have space?, it's Where does this go? Do I have space in that pocket?, which is more complicated.

And here's a crazy idea, um, how about, maybe, making the tutorials optional???!!

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You know, after reading this, I think the problem isn't that Pokemon games have gotten too complicated or terrible, but you just don't have any interest in this series anymore. There's nothing wrong with that. People grow out of stuff all the time.

You say that Gen 4 is terrible compared to Gen 2(Which you've played in your childhood) to help comfort yourself with the that you don't like the franchise anymore.

HGSS remaking Gold and Silver and applying new, "confusing" things to what you enjoyed in childhood scares you, so you decided come here and post your gripes with what you're not used as a way to prove to yourself that there's nothing wrong with not loving something that you used to when you were younger so you can move on.

If that's the case, I suggest you get over your displeasure with the franchise and focus on hobbies or whatever that genuinely hold your interest, and leave people who still like Pokemon and are excited for HGSS to their own devices.

If the above isn't the case, then you're probably a troll trying to get a reaction from everyone here. Either, way no one here should bother arguing with you since your stance probably won't change.

Feel free to give an angry response to this, but I won't bother replying.


I'm freaking 15, I don't think Childhood is the right word.

There's plenty of reasons I actually don't like HG/SS, the new pokemon are either too weird or too unoriginal. It's partly I don't like the DS being so friggin big.

But who am I to say why I won't like HG/SS? It's not like I know myself, however you know every little detail pertaining to my childhood and such. [/sarcasm]

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Yes! Finally, someone showing some spirit! :D These games are going to be the most awesome games ever. =D

These games won't meet your expectations, they will exceed them. Even the guy from Nintendo said "expect great things."

I mean, what other Pokemon game allows all of the 493 Pokemon to be able to follow you?

DUH! What was he going to say, these games suck? Even if pokemon was just two piles of crap fighting, a nintendo employee isn't gonna say "This game sucks"
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No, dude, seriously. These guys make millions. If I were in their shoes, I would mke the game as brilliant as it could be, and when it's all done, I get to have a nice peaceful holiday with my Girlfriend in our holiday home in France. Believe what you want. That's what game makers do. And who wouldn't? And no, they aren't the only people who can do this. With the right training, I could probably produce the same graphics and base the game on Gold/Silver. If they were the only people that could do it, Nintendo would also own Xbox and PS3, which they don't.
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No, dude, seriously. These guys make millions. If I were in their shoes, I would mke the game as brilliant as it could be, and when it's all done, I get to have a nice peaceful holiday with my Girlfriend in our holiday home in France. Believe what you want. That's what game makers do. And who wouldn't? And no, they aren't the only people who can do this. With the right training, I could probably produce the same graphics and base the game on Gold/Silver. If they were the only people that could do it, Nintendo would also own Xbox and PS3, which they don't.
Umm... Nintendo probably forces GameFreak to sign contracts to 1. make more games on Nintendo's demands and 2. Give most of the profit to Nintendo.

Plus, if you can make more money by changing some sprites and adding color, why not!?
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Umm... Nintendo probably forces GameFreak to sign contracts to 1. make more games on Nintendo's demands and 2. Give most of the profit to Nintendo.

Plus, if you can make more money by changing some sprites and adding color, why not!?
Even if Gamefreak got like 5% of all money made from these games, they'd still be making millions. These people are not poor. They are stinking rich. And they aren't just changing colours and adding sprites. That is a serious understatement.
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Even if Gamefreak got like 5% of all money made from these games, they'd still be making millions. These people are not poor. They are stinking rich. And they aren't just changing colours and adding sprites. That is a serious understatement.
OH you get my point, obviously with the well-developed originals there's less work to be done.

Still, they're probably forced to make more games by their publisher (That's nintendo) just as Music Artists are forced to make more music by their labels.
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theres tons of room in each pocket, i have never run out of room in any of my pockets
and there is no "where does this go" the items goes in the pockets automatically
and like i said: if your looking for a certain thing, you can just touch the picture
Pokeballs? Picture of a pokeball of coarse.
key items? picture of key!! geddit?

its kind of sad if you slaved and suffered flipping through endless paes and pages just to find a potion lmfao

and if you don't like the new pokemon, you aren't required to use them
we aren't in sinnoh this time. we're in johto, build your team with johto pokemon

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theres tons of room in each pocket, i have never run out of room in any of my pockets
and there is no "where does this go" the items goes in the pockets automatically
and like i said: if your looking for a certain thing, you can just touch the picture
Pokeballs? Picture of a pokeball of coarse.
key items? picture of key!! geddit?

its kind of sad if you slaved and suffered flipping through endless paes and pages just to find a potion lmfao

and if you don't like the new pokemon, you aren't required to use them
we aren't in sinnoh this time. we're in johto, build your team with johto pokemon

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But with the original pokemon games, there was no extra menu, you were brought immediately to the list of items. That's simpler
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OH you get my point, obviously with the well-developed originals there's less work to be done.

Still, they're probably forced to make more games by their publisher (That's nintendo) just as Music Artists are forced to make more music by their labels.
If you were given the opportunity to make an awesome game for a massive share of profit, you wouldn't turn the offer down. That is the only point I'm making. All of your points are actually quite valid and true. They just don't go against anything I have said.
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If you were given the opportunity to make an awesome game for a massive share of profit, you wouldn't turn the offer down. That is the only point I'm making. All of your points are actually quite valid and true. They just don't go against anything I have said.
Well, you said you'd make one good game and then retire, that's what I'm fighting against. They'd probably try to make you make more games.

...Or just take the rights to them.... nevermind...
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But with the original pokemon games, there was no extra menu, you were brought immediately to the list of items. That's simpler
i should have said this before but
we aren't getting a remake of the original games hun

we're getting a remake of Gold, Silver, and Crystal

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Back in the day, we only had one pocket, these days, we have more space and organization, we don't have to worry about picking up an item only to discover we can't fit it in. how is that simple? now all we have to do is grab a item, and thats the end of it. if we want to get an item out, we have convienient little pictures to show us which pocket is for what.
its organized, therefore easier to find things
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Well, you said you'd make one good game and then retire, that's what I'm fighting against. They'd probably try to make you make more games.

...Or just take the rights to them.... nevermind...
Yeah, exactly, they are making one good game (well two games with minimal differences). Let be honest with ourselves here. Pokemon games are about the only good games Gamefreak makes. Hence its fame. But I didn't say anything about retiring afterward. Don't know where you got that idea from.
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we aren't getting a remake of the original games hun

we're getting a remake of Gold, Silver, and Crystal
Which had less pockets. Items/Balls/Key Items/TM-HM

Platinum has Items/Medicine/Pokeballs/TM-HM/Berries/Mail/Battle Items/Key Items

SO, it's simpler in G/S/C. Assuming you aren't using a pokeball, you only have to deal with the Items pocket. In Platinum, you have to deal with Berries AND Medicine AND battle items AND items. That's too many, IMHO. That's why I said even though it had the excess features, G/S/C was a nice balance between too many and too little.

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Yeah, exactly, they are making one good game (well two games with minimal differences). Let be honest with ourselves here. Pokemon games are about the only good games Gamefreak makes. Hence its fame. But I didn't say anything about retiring afterward. Don't know where you got that idea from.
Sorry, read it wrong. It sounded like you were going to retire in france with your GF, when I first read it.
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And how often do you go to all of those pockets?
You talk about it like you had suffered to figure out where anything is
Honestly
When you first started the game, how hard was it really to find anything??

Your nostalgia is at dangerous levels
It really does sound like your just afraid of change

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And how often do you go to all of those pockets?
You talk about it like you had suffered to figure out where anything is
Honestly
When you first started the game, how hard was it really to find anything??

Your nostalgia is at dangerous levels
It really does sound like your just afraid of change

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Well, now that I've beaten the game, I don't play it, but I remember going through the 1337 4, it was constant switching between this pocket and the other (Specifically, berries and.... medicine? wherever the freaking potions were.)
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Sorry for barging in and what not...just stating my opinion on this...
But I can't count how many times I was upset when 'the bag is full...' [Just finidhed playing Crystal]. That gets old after awhile. No need to complain about a bigger bag...they're just helping you out so don't need to toss away items every time the bag is full. Adapt, its not that hard.
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Well, now that I've beaten the game, I don't play it, but I remember going through the 1337 4, it was constant switching between this pocket and the other (Specifically, berries and.... medicine? wherever the freaking potions were.)
you had to heal your pokemon, you would have had to look for potion in any other game
it isn't that difficult
if it was, thats sad

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Honestly
When you first started the game, how hard was it really to find anything??
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Oh yeah, sorry. I forgot that mistyping "thought" as "thougt" made the entire post illegible.

Either way, the point still stands.
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you had to heal your pokemon, you would have had to look for potion in any other game
it isn't that difficult
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well?
You missed the point.

The point was that sometimes you don't need a potion, because you only need a 10HP boost. So you use an oran berry and conserve potions.

Other times you need the extra boost and use a potion.

So instead of just going up and down in the same pocket, I have to switch pockets in Platinum.



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Oh yeah, sorry. I forgot that mistyping "thought" as "thougt" made the entire post illegible.

Either way, the point still stands.
Your point is no longer valid when it becomes no longer valid. I went on a freaking vacation, when I came back I didn't want to surf (see what I did there) through every freaking comment, so I took the ones I saw. Have you failed to see what I've been doing for the last 30 minutes, at least?
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So instead of just going up and down in the same pocket, I have to switch pockets in Platinum.

Oh wow, amazing, you have to press the left/right buttons instead of the up/down buttons
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So instead of just going up and down in the same pocket, I have to switch pockets in Platinum.
Personally, I find that easier :\ You just have to press left or right instead of up or down. How, exactly, is that harder?




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Fair enough, i just thought it was a little odd that you only responded to one of the less valid criticisms
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Calm down, guys.

Even though I am VERY Excited about HG/SS, I will still like My Crystal Version more. It has less to do with simplicity and more to do with the game as a whole. I can't really explain it... It's quite complicated... I don't know if other people understand what I'm talking about... but there is "Something" about the Originals that will make me continue playing them. What that "Something" is, though, is a complete mystery to me.

I play My Blue and Yellow far more than I play my LeafGreen, and it will probably be the same with Silver and Crystal once HG/SS are released.
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Left and right isn't instead of up/down, you still have scrolling to do from there.


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Honestly, why do the game makers think people care that berrys don't have their own pocket?

They just need to let some things be.
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Old July 30th, 2009 (2:47 PM).
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Originally Posted by SMGKururu View Post
Left and right isn't instead of up/down, you still have scrolling to do from there.


And 100th reply! whoo!
That makes it sooooooooo much more difficult doesn't it?
You have to suffer through countless unneeded pages and pages of different categories
It's so confusing!!!1!!11. @[email protected]

How dare they!

That's Terrible
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