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OR GIVE OUT ELMS! THAT WOULD KICK ASS!

"Elm: Kuru? Did you give out my phone number? Some retard keeps telling me about his Ratata he caught. It's annoying. I have to change my number now, all because of you. Don't be a ******** next time."\
That has to be the best idea ever. That would save my life. It would get all those annoying trainers off of my back. And I'll make my mom spend Elm's money instead of mine, too.
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Lmao, imagine an HG/SS where elm goes bankrupt, all because your mom spent all his money
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I for sure will like this game a lot better than any other Pokemon game I've played. It has exceeded my expectations. I would have expected that only the starters could follow, but they proved me wrong by making all the Pokemon follow. I thought the music would be heavily remixed like FrLg's music was. The GSC music sounds almost the same, but better. I know I'm going to like this game the best. It takes place in my favorite region, I get to start off with my first ever/favorite Pokemon again (Chikorita was my first Pokemon), I can have any Pokemon follow me, I get to see my favorite legendaries again, there are much better graphics this time, the bag is more organized and has more pockets, the Pokegear is back, the radio finally makes a return (I love the Pokemon radio), it appears that you can store more phone numbers,the Pokedex appears much easier to navigate, the mom will save my money again (She was the most useful parent. Her saving money is OPTIONAL. She asks you if you want to save your money, you can say yes or NO. You can even call her and you can even have her stop saving your money. I actually like how my mom is a bank in this game. I can easily deposit all of my money to my mother before battling the Elite Four, so in case I lose, I don't have to give up a lot.) The Pokegear is still simple, but they added the itemfinder and improved the Pokegear graphics-wise a lot. I like how the menu is no longer on the top screen. I like it better on the bottom screen, so I can see if there are any trainers nearby. If I can't get a Teddiursa early on, so what? I don't have to use it. I can use still Scizor and Corsola in my party.

For me, I consider HGSS to be the final product of Johto. I see GSC as a test to see if I would like the game of the future. (I know this is a remake, but still. I see HGSS of how GSC should have been.) The game makers have more freedom and more memory to make this game awesome. We can even see more times of the day. Including afternoon and dawn. The graphics look more amazing than I expected them to look. Goldenrod city looks a million times better.

It may not meet some other people's expectations, because they want everything, but they exceeded my expectations. I've played all the games and noticed that some games have different features from other games, but some were removed. They removed day/night, but it came back and it will be back in this game.

The sprites in this game look much better than the ones in previous games. I don't care if they use DP trainer sprites, as long as they have new ones, too, it's fine with me.

I could care less if they removed contests, because I could easily trade my Johto pokemon to Platinum to get ribbons and then trade back. There are no rules against it. So what if I have to wait until I get the national dex to do it. I didn't start contests until after I beat the game. The berries now are much better. They are very useful. They heal status (Poison, paralyz, burns, frozen, sleep) without you having to spend money, Leppa berries restore PP. Makes it easier so you don't have to use only Elixers, Max Elixers, Ethers, and Max Ethers. Sitrus berry and Oran berry restore HP. It's useful for the lower level pokemon. The other berries can be used for making Poffin or can be exchanged for contest items. The underground made it easier to get fossils (I had 6 Omanyte at one time) It provided a challenge. I felt like I earned my water stone, 20 fire stones, etc. (You can sell the extra stuff you obtain.) I use the extra money to buy things in the Villa. I can afford it. I know I can easily obtain the money again.

If I can't go underground in HGSS, I honestly wouldn't mind. I wouldn't want to get sick of it. I could easily do these things in Platinum and trade the items over. (I put my items in alphabetical order. It's actually easier to find something. I also organized the PC boxes to make them national dex numerical order. Wasn't too hard.

Other things I like about what they have done with this game: Gold looks much cuter. The boy actually looks good for once. The girl doesn't overshadow him. He's the coolest male playable character ever. His hat and hair look better, too. We have a new playable character. I'm glad they didn't recycle Kris. She was my least favorite female. I like the fact that this new character isn't wearing something with a Pokeball on it. I like the hat with the bow. I'd rather have a bow than a Pokeball. I like how her clothes match. I didn't like seeing pink and red mixed together. The rival looks much better now (to me he does). He's updated and I like how they made his hair. He's much cuter. He didn't even remind me of Mars or Roark. He's supposed to have red hair. His original hair was almost that style except he didn't have part of it sticking it up adorably like that. Team Rocket looks better as well. (I'm going by Soul Silver's intro.) The executives got better clothes. I like it. It reminds me of Jessie and James' uniforms.

They did a much better job with this game than I expected. I'm happy to see an actual well for Slowpoke and that they have added windmills to New Bark Town. I also like how they made it rain at the Lake of Rage. I love everything I know about the game so far. It exceeded my expectations.

I could care less if it didn't exceed anyone else's. No offense to anyone.
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My word, Ash. That was long lol

Things I agree on are:

The GSC music sounds almost the same, but better.
This has to be what I looked forward to most in these games :3
I can have any Pokemon follow me. Wailord tagging along? Epic!
Mom will save my money again Although her buying stuff with it was a little annoying at first, I appreciated it in the long run.

For me, I consider HGSS to be the final product of Johto.
Point taken.
The sprites in this game look much better than the ones in previous games. I don't care if they use DP trainer sprites, as long as they have new ones, too, it's fine with me.
I can't wait to see all the updated sprites, especially the gym leaders.

The berries now are much better. They are very useful. They heal status (Poison, paralyz, burns, frozen, sleep) without you having to spend money, Leppa berries restore PP. Makes it easier so you don't have to use only Elixers, Max Elixers, Ethers, and Max Ethers. Sitrus berry and Oran berry restore HP.
I can't tell you how many times the new berries have saved my life.

If I can't go underground in HGSS, I honestly wouldn't mind.
I never cared much for the underground, save for personal base of course.

Gold looks much cuter.
Oh most definitely. His new design is absolutely lovable.

I also like how they made it rain at the Lake of Rage.
Honestly, that's how I always imagined it looking like. Great touch.
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I think the game is going to be alright at best. I'm going to hate the fact that the pokemon is going to follow you around. Pokemon belong in the pokeball not to be walking next to me. It's going to be lame.
I just hope they stay true to the roots. I'm excited for the return of team rocket though.
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I think what made G/S/C great was the fact that you had learned about things from the previous games and you get to apply those teachings in a completly new environment where you have no idea what to expect.

Its the same with all games, with R/B, G/S, R/S, D/P they were predessors(I hope it spelled it correct) of the previous games where you found the joy of new environments, new pokemon and rekindled adventures you've never had before.

With Y, C, E and P, you new what to expect so they wern't no suprises.

However, remakes from once ago change the pokemon, graphics, and generally add features that were needed for enhanced gameplay. They are giving the same plot, maps and routes but because they were from so long ago, it's more of a refreshment then a repeat to play them. This is evident in FR and LG

So I believe that HG and SS will be alot like FR and LG and be a refreshment to play rather than a replay. Plus, they don't stick to the same stuff, they will change around the maps, routes and such for more fun. Plus, you get nostaglia (if I spelled it right) without having you comprimise graphic expectations.


But It might not recieve as well reception than Diamond and Pearl because it's the same gameplay with different looks

But I'm looking foreword (again, spelling) for it
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I see what the guy means...The pokemon games HAVE had many new features that arent EXTREMELY neccessary to the game, but still, its gonna be an awesome game! Its the greatest games that have ever been realeased on a hand held console being revamped!!

JUST THINK OF THE GOOD OLD DAYS ALL OVER AGAIN!
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Of course, when it doesn't, we'll simply lower them.

I don't think Nintendo gets the idea. Pokemon GS was so great because it was simple.

Think about it. Back to a time before Pokemon: Dash and all the spinoff BS. Before the Poketech, the PokeWalker, planting berries, all that crap. Pokemon GS was the best balance we've seen between lots of features and a good game. (It's excess features were, for the most part, USEFUL. The radio and making calls were part of the game. Now with the Poketech, you've got stuff like drawing. IF I WANTED TO DRAW I'D OPEN UP PICTOCHAT, I DIDN'T PAY $35 TO DRAW!) I'll admit pokemon following you is cool, but nintendo fails to realize that it's the simplicity we liked. With Diamond and Pearl, you had a long time before you were done with the tutorials. The DP tutorials were WAY to long, by the time I reach the third route I want the dumb game to leave me along about tutorials!

With the exception of your home, every feature had a reason. The touch screen in overkill in pokemon, it just raised the ability of developers to put stupid stuff into games.
This is also why i hated fire red and leaf green. This should have been posted in the complaints topic, sorry.
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^ Yeah, I think you're right. Besides, this thread is pretty much a downer as it is. I agree that the first post should be in the complaints thread. I know I "don't have to read" the posts, but I was hoping that some people would stand up for this game and be grateful without acting like a spoiled child over it.

Also, there is no way to prove this wrong other than saying that they have exceeded your own expectations. I'm in this section for the purpose of finding out info about the games and to talk about my opinions on it. I look in all the threads and read them looking for people who share my ideas.

Sometimes I wish I never even came to this forum. That way, I wouldn't be annoyed that almost everyone's putting down a seemingly cool game that's not even out yet. Honestly, I was hoping more people would be excited over it. If you say that you like the "simplicity" of the originals, fine. That just means you fear change and don't want anything new. Just play the originals. I'm sure there are roms somewhere. If you don't want to play this game, fine, but don't go putting us down, just because you're not "satisfied."

I've already explained in my very long post about why this game has exceeded my expectations.

However, I would also like to add that I like how the Kimono girls were given a bigger role this time. I also like the new look of Team Rocket. I'm happy to know that most of the music so far sounds practically the same as the original. I could honestly care less about nostalgia, because I was in 7th grade when I first played Gold version. (Red was 2nd, Crystal was third. Crystal was out when I got Red version. I didn't like Red's graphics at all. I liked Yellow better than Red.)
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Calm down, guys.

Even though I am VERY Excited about HG/SS, I will still like My Crystal Version more. It has less to do with simplicity and more to do with the game as a whole. I can't really explain it... It's quite complicated... I don't know if other people understand what I'm talking about... but there is "Something" about the Originals that will make me continue playing them. What that "Something" is, though, is a complete mystery to me.

I play My Blue and Yellow far more than I play my LeafGreen, and it will probably be the same with Silver and Crystal once HG/SS are released.
How come every time I make a decent-sized post, people tend to skip over it like I'm not even here? ;-;

I'm still going to stick to what I said in the post I'm quoting
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^ Yeah, I think you're right. Besides, this thread is pretty much a downer as it is. I agree that the first post should be in the complaints thread. I know I "don't have to read" the posts, but I was hoping that some people would stand up for this game and be grateful without acting like a spoiled child over it.
This is the exact game I was hoping for. I enjoyed my crystal version a lot. I had both yellow and crystal version and was very pleased with both.

Yellow was where my pokemon love began. I was hoked on it and got more involved in the anime because of it. Then I got crystal and enjoyed something very fresh, a game involving an adventure focused on a water type. It also had a lot more story involved.

When Saphirre came out I was in both a joy and a loss. The game became a lot more fun with special abilities and contests. I loved the region layout of Hoenn, the only thing I did not like was how I could no get some of my Johto and Hoenn favorites. That was part of the reason why I stoped playing the game at saphire.

When LF and FR was anounced I was still unsure if I wanted to play them. They still seemed like any old pokemon game to me. I was curies about the wireless adaptor, but to me nothing but a gimmik. Its not like I did not already have a four-way link cable. Plus after the anouncement of LF and FR I had my hopes up for a gold/silver remake.

I skiped the D/P games because they still had very little to offer except for online play. The water pokemon was a big joke to me, even the legendaries. I hate how they gave us stupid looking Aceus and the dragon trio, god pokemon do not belong.

Now that HG/SS is oficial I knew I wanted it becase of these reasons:

I would be able to visit my favorite regions and catch my favorite pokemon. Many of the veteran gamers who actualy had these games for Gameboy when they came out are starting to get into the age where they may stop playing pokemon because they think it's either childish or they think the news look to stupid. This game would actually attract some f those old pokemon gamers because they too would love to play gold and silver again and also see how rules have changed.

With the fourth gen rules being in these games it's a no brainer thigns would be interesting, and it is something you have to expect since this is comming out in the fourth generation.

Having any pokemon fallow you would be like Yellow version all over again (the hightlite of that version)

It shows some hints that some of the crystal plot will be back. In can't wait to see if its true. Crystal was a gen 2 game and i'll be sure to get my hands on it for sure for old memories sake.

Constest was great, but the minigame idea i even better. Gives me room to fit my pokemon for both fun side quests and real gameplay. whereas with contests I had to pick my pokemon moves carefully to suit the roles of beuaty, smart, tough, ect. Minigames is all mater of stats.

online play, yup tha one thing why many would get it. Online play would make the old gen 1 and gen 2 pokemon more lickly to be seen for trade and battles. And if i can show my skill with my favorite pokemon once more worldwide, i would.

The Pedometer is something I am sure to sure. Makes me level my poekmon easier whileI actually do something with my life :)

So far this game has added far more then I thought a remake from Gamefreak would.

You must remember that pokemon, like most if not all things, change. The rules will differ from generation to generation as new moves and pokemon come into play. As well as the many updates we see. No one likes to pay for the same thing twice, so Game freak must add to the game to make it more appealing. If you think this is not your style simple gaming and I sugest you say hello to a world of ROM and Pirating because pokemon changes like every other game and there is nothing you can do about it.
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Thank you for agreeing. I've played every single Pokemon rpg mainstream game fully (except Ruby), so I'm used to the changes in Pokemon.

Yellow was awesome. I played that after Crystal. I liked it a lot better than Red. It was so cool getting all the Kanto starters and seeing Jessie and James. I loved seeing Pikachu follow. I'm happy they brought that idea to HGSS and expanded on it.

The only thing about Sapphire that let me down was that the weather didn't change everywhere. It was always the same weather in the same area. But I played anyway.

I got excited when I saw FireRed and LeafGreen. I liked the new artwork for the starters. I got Leafgreen. (My starter is Squirtle this time.)

DP gave me a chance to migrate a Pokemon without having to catch 100 Bidoofs to trade. Every time I migrate, I do a new game. I like DP. Especially Platinum. I love the Battle Frontier and new contests. It was much easier than Hoenn's.

If it wasn't for Gold version and all 100 new Pokemon, I would have stopped liking Pokemon altogether a long time ago. (I didn't know about Red version until after I played Gold for the first time at my cousin's house. It was so awesome. I've been playing the games ever since.)

Johto out of all the regions is my favorite one. I love how they redid it. It looks perfect. Goldenrod actually looks gorgeous! It had my favorite rival in the world. He looks cuter in this game. Gold even looks cuter as well. Having the new girl makes it feel like a new game. It's like Gold is for the veterans who like to keep things the same and the new girl is for new players who want a fresh new experience. (At least that's how I see it.)

Honestly, HGSS without the upgrades is like a downgrade compared to Platinum. They have to bring it to Platinum's standards. To me, they have exceeded them.

The Pokemon following was my favorite thing about Yellow. Them using this idea in HGSS is making up for a lack of a Yellow Remake.

I like how they added the Crystal elements to it. I love Eusine. He was so cool. I also like they made Suicune important again. I love it. ^_^

Contests were okay, but I like this new idea of the mini games as well. It gives me something new to do. If I want to participate in a contest, I could just trade my Johto/Kanto native Pokemon to Platinum. It's not hard. ^_^ I'll just have to beat the Elite Four first. (I don't participate in contests until after the Elite Four.)

The online play wasn't what made me get this game. I just liked the idea of a new adventure and I thought Piplup was cute. I also liked the designs of the playable characters and the rival.

I like the Pokewalker. I could use it for leveling up a 7th Pokemon for later on. It will gain the levels when I send it back to my game and learn new moves then. ^_^


Yeah, some games have day/night while others don't, some have vs. seeker while the other has a phone. It's better so we don't get sick of seeing the same thing over again. I even like how they gave the old school Pokemon new evolutions. It gave me a reason to use them again. Also, I prefer FrLg to RB. They gave the VS seeker and organized the bag. I see they made things more convenient with HGSS. I like using the touch screen (I hold the stylus in my left hand). I'm happy we'll get to use it more on the DS. It's seems much easier to organize and we don't have to use a Poketch on the bottom screen the whole time. The Pokedex is much better this time and you don't have go down a long list of 493 names. Some of the trainer sprites for this game look better than DPPt's. For example, Team Rocket, the Twins, new Youngster.

I honestly don't mind the tutorials. When I get a new game, I'd like to see if they changed anything. Also, it's a new game so I expect to see instructions. I'm not the only one playing. There are newbies to Pokemon as well. It's a good reminder, because usually I don't play a Pokemon game for a while when I know another is on the way. I wait until a new one comes out. (I usually play either Animal Crossing DS or something else while I wait.) It's good to have a reminder.

(Sorry for the ridiculously long post. I was responding to Hydrath and adding some more input.)
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OMG! This is SO funny! I have pretty much played the Japanese version of HeartGold the whole way through, and I've also finished the original Gold except for beating Red, and I am extremely satisfied with everything. Gold was a step back for me, but that was because I played it in um, lets see, 2007?! So, yeah I am really happy you can just press a button on the touch screen ONCE and it makes you run FOREVER! Whereas Gold DIDN'T EVEN HAVE RUNNING SHOES! That would make your gameplay go EVEN SLOWER! You would still have to listen through the tutorials AND walk around EXTREMELY slowly!
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