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Old May 4th, 2010 (2:37 AM).
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first off, that plugin he used is hard to come by. second off, it's just not that simple. not only do you have to rip the model and edit it, you have to make sure it goes back in the right spot and all the stuff related to it changes accordingly as well. it's not like the gba where you could just replace a few bytes here and there and it all works great; the ds is much more complicated.
I'm pretty sure it was in here: http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=148703
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Old May 4th, 2010 (3:12 AM).
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ok well now everyone's gonna be like "oooh more tools to do stuff i can't figure out on my own!! omg how do i use it?? help plz omgz!!!!11!oneone!11" which is pretty much the exact reason people like me are extremely hesitant to freely contribute to the community. at least when i was figuring all this out about 9 years ago, the newbies were willing to learn and spend effort, and as a result the experienced people were willing to teach. now everyone just expects someone smarter to release the tools to do what they want. news flash: you're just changing a freaking game. if you're really that into "hacking" then learn it yourself, the real way. any internet monkey can use a set of tools. what sets people apart is their ability to figure out problems and find solutions (and it is generally these people that end up making the tools anyway). granted, i know the majority of people on here aren't my age (i'm a couple months away from turning 19, whereas most of you are between 11 and 16), but regardless of age, you can't expect everything to just be handed to you straight up. use some brainpower and contribute back.

sorry for the rant, but it seems like i'm not the only one on the forum with these feelings lately. having been off the scene for ages and finally coming back a couple months ago, i'm kinda shocked to see what this has become. for me, its hard as hell to get any help from the people that know their stuff because they've all started to keep to themselves, because of what this community has become. the people that know what they're doing should still be able to collaborate, at least. so to everyone that drove them away, i hope you're happy.

@Iacobus: that's not directed at you in any way, you didn't do anything to piss me off, no worries :)
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ok well now everyone's gonna be like "oooh more tools to do stuff i can't figure out on my own!! omg how do i use it?? help plz omgz!!!!11!oneone!11" which is pretty much the exact reason people like me are extremely hesitant to freely contribute to the community. at least when i was figuring all this out about 9 years ago, the newbies were willing to learn and spend effort, and as a result the experienced people were willing to teach. now everyone just expects someone smarter to release the tools to do what they want. news flash: you're just changing a freaking game. if you're really that into "hacking" then learn it yourself, the real way. any internet monkey can use a set of tools. what sets people apart is their ability to figure out problems and find solutions (and it is generally these people that end up making the tools anyway). granted, i know the majority of people on here aren't my age (i'm a couple months away from turning 19, whereas most of you are between 11 and 16), but regardless of age, you can't expect everything to just be handed to you straight up. use some brainpower and contribute back.
I could not agree more... I can not begin to tell you how many tools were circulating around the actual hackers in regards to D/P/Pt, there are even a few for HG/SS. It's just that we have reached a point where we don't feel we should give said tools to the public when they don't even thank us, they just expect us to do this for them.
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Old May 4th, 2010 (5:32 AM).
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I could not agree more... I can not begin to tell you how many tools were circulating around the actual hackers in regards to D/P/Pt, there are even a few for HG/SS. It's just that we have reached a point where we don't feel we should give said tools to the public when they don't even thank us, they just expect us to do this for them.
oh i'm sure there were lots of really nice things floating around the in-crowd. too bad i showed up a couple years late (i completely missed the d/p/pt phase and jumped back on board when hg/ss was announced).... :P lol.

and yeah, i mean, its not like we expect people to be like "oh thank you for making this, you have teh uber skillz!" or anything like that, but like, just don't dismiss things as "too hard" or "not worth your time/effort." honestly, the best way i can think of to show appreciation is to do something yourself and give back to the community. earn your place among the "hackers." give someone else a valid reason to even call you one.
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ohhh....sounds like i found out what i'm going to do this weekend...thanks :)
no really, i'm actually gonna try and learn from these things since there are supposed to be documents in there
So, that i can get my curiousity going, what kind of stuff is in this package?
(lol, if anything, that legality fight makes me interested [not that i'm a jd or anything xD])
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ok well now everyone's gonna be like "oooh more tools to do stuff i can't figure out on my own!! omg how do i use it?? help plz omgz!!!!11!oneone!11" which is pretty much the exact reason people like me are extremely hesitant to freely contribute to the community. at least when i was figuring all this out about 9 years ago, the newbies were willing to learn and spend effort, and as a result the experienced people were willing to teach. now everyone just expects someone smarter to release the tools to do what they want. news flash: you're just changing a freaking game. if you're really that into "hacking" then learn it yourself, the real way. any internet monkey can use a set of tools. what sets people apart is their ability to figure out problems and find solutions (and it is generally these people that end up making the tools anyway). granted, i know the majority of people on here aren't my age (i'm a couple months away from turning 19, whereas most of you are between 11 and 16), but regardless of age, you can't expect everything to just be handed to you straight up. use some brainpower and contribute back.

sorry for the rant, but it seems like i'm not the only one on the forum with these feelings lately. having been off the scene for ages and finally coming back a couple months ago, i'm kinda shocked to see what this has become. for me, its hard as hell to get any help from the people that know their stuff because they've all started to keep to themselves, because of what this community has become. the people that know what they're doing should still be able to collaborate, at least. so to everyone that drove them away, i hope you're happy.

@Iacobus: that's not directed at you in any way, you didn't do anything to piss me off, no worries :)
so true, good point. (i'm 14,turnin 15 btw)

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I could not agree more... I can not begin to tell you how many tools were circulating around the actual hackers in regards to D/P/Pt, there are even a few for HG/SS. It's just that we have reached a point where we don't feel we should give said tools to the public when they don't even thank us, they just expect us to do this for them.
YAY (@smurphy too), somebody actually said this in a kind way for a change :)
i'm getting sick and tired of all these repeated posts about all the nubs on pc, true as they may be, they're are becoming an annoyance
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oh i'm sure there were lots of really nice things floating around the in-crowd. too bad i showed up a couple years late (i completely missed the d/p/pt phase and jumped back on board when hg/ss was announced).... :P lol.

and yeah, i mean, its not like we expect people to be like "oh thank you for making this, you have teh uber skillz!" or anything like that, but like, just don't dismiss things as "too hard" or "not worth your time/effort." honestly, the best way i can think of to show appreciation is to do something yourself and give back to the community. earn your place among the "hackers." give someone else a valid reason to even call you one.
Ditto
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Old May 4th, 2010 (2:13 PM).
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yeah i mean the people that are already mad about this that go flaming everyone and being mean in general just aren't going about it the right way. their feelings are legitimate but they could handle their responses sooo much better... oh well, i guess.
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Old May 6th, 2010 (7:20 PM).
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I think we need a new forum to be in, cause here things are slow.
does anyone know where we could move this conversation? a good forum? because if theres nothing, i can always start one. so if you want a new forum just tell me
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Old May 6th, 2010 (7:40 PM).
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How exactly does moving the discussion somewhere else facilitate more discussion? And for the record, Pokecommunity isn't the only place on the web that deals with ROM hacking, or even Pokemon-specific ROM hacking for that matter.
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Old May 6th, 2010 (8:21 PM). Edited May 7th, 2010 by Full Metal.
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or perhaps a blog would be better? rather than setting up an entire forum...
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aww man, all that package was was a bunch of guides on how to use a plugin.
i mean, thats really cool, but i guess for some reason i was expecting thngs that are specific
to pokemon games (EG Events and whatnot)
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Old May 14th, 2010 (7:38 AM). Edited May 17th, 2010 by Aurasan.
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Currently in the process of searching the thread for the answer, but in case it is not here, has anyone found a way around the engrish versions' drop-hack? (the one where nintendo decided to "protect" the ROM from being used on a flash-cart)
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OK read the previous 10 pages. I am using an R4 and have not been able to find a working anti-piracy patch for my copy of soul silver. If anyone knows where to find one please message me.


and for the record.. poryhack sounds like an angry 11 year old in over half his posts.. spam and flaming all over the place.
poryhack.. you really should work out your own issues before pissing on other people.

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folks on another site suggested I try "Wood R4" (for others who might have the same question)
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Does anyone know if it's possible to remove the special defence boost sandstorm gives to rock types?
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does anyone know how to edit the trainers battle sprite and intro (when choosing male or female) sorry if it a noob question
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Old May 18th, 2010 (12:37 PM).
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maybe a blog would be best...
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does anyone know how to edit the trainers battle sprite and intro (when choosing male or female) sorry if it a noob question
Yes. I went through the entire process of changing the back sprite a couple pages back. Please read through the topic before asking a question.
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Yes. I went through the entire process of changing the back sprite a couple pages back. Please read through the topic before asking a question.
yeah i found thank it help alot
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HeartGold/SoulSilver might be hacked one day, . I would love to see animation like Faulkner's gym elevator in other games! but Black and White would nigh be impossible

Mostly just because the sprite MOVES during a battle, it no longer it a stationary sprite image. It is one that has animation.
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HeartGold/SoulSilver might be hacked one day, . I would love to see animation like Faulkner's gym elevator in other games! but Black and White would nigh be impossible

Mostly just because the sprite MOVES during a battle, it no longer it a stationary sprite image. It is one that has animation.
I took a look at that, but it won't be that hard because, how should i say this, there are multiple parts of the sprite, much like a jigsaw puzzle, that move together rather than one piece
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In the case of a simple frame-by-frame animation, animated sprites mainly causes a larger workload (Of course you can always remove the animation or copy the same frames across the whole animation to save time)

Segmented animation would be more of a pain because each part would still need to line up and move in a way that doesn't look strange.
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Was wondering if someone's made a hack for HG/SS yet that has had the textures for the female character changed to ones based from Crystal?
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Old June 1st, 2010 (1:18 PM).
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I just started trying to hack SS/HG a couple days ago.
I wasnt able to do much, all i could do was change the OW sprites using poketex and wild pokemon(and stats) with PPRE.

Are there any other tools i can use?
Also, im pretty new to rom hacking...and when i say new i mean i started like 2 days ago and would appreciate and tips/etc.

My main goals are:
Editing Sprites with Custom Sprites
Changing Story
Adding more pokemon to the Pokemon sprites in OW, like event pokemon that you go and catch(lugia, ho-oh, mewtwo, etc.)

Less Important:
Changing the map(i think its too advanced for me)

Anyways, if you have any tools or tips on doing these things, i would appreciate it and ill try to help anyone out if you need it...
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oh, i see
well im actually changing wild pokemon right now with PPRE, i noticed that there is an event tab

am i able to add OW sprites and stuff using that? so i can go and battle it like ho-oh, lugia, etc.

btw, how would i go about entering my own custom sprites(both OW and in battle trainer backs) in SS or is that not possible yet?

and my last question, how would i change the shiny pokemon colors? i wanted to change lugia's shiny to a shadow lugia but im not sure how to do that...

Thanks for the help btw
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i have that already downloaded..
all it does is dump everything from the rom right?
after it does that how would i edit the files and where are they located?
OW sprites are in a/0/8/1 or a/1/7/9, one of those and i have the in battle sprites written down somewhere, but how about the pokemon info sprite and am i able to replace the in battle trainer and trainer card pictures? i need to change them to riley to complete my sprite hack
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Hi!
I really dunno why my other post was deleted TT~TT(sorry for anything!)
Well,im made a new Misty sprite(overworld and big sprite).I I want to know
if its possible to change Kotone sprites for that one that I made.
Oh,I only made the basics positions of misty,so,I would like to know if i can use
a walking sprite do runnig animation.
Well,i think you guys get it(ihope'~')
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i replaced the silver sprite with Riley(D/P/P) both walking and running

walking looks fine but you gotta make sure you replace the positions correctly, for me it was kinda a trial and error type thing. Had to constantly replace

as far as the running, i used a walking sprite as well and it looks a little funny, but it isnt all that bad

to replace the OW sprite just use poketex

and the in battle and big sprites idk
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Hi!
riku,theres some chances of freezing doing that?
and,im not very good with hack,can you do it for me?
if yes,i pass to you my mistys sprites
tnxs ^^
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