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Old September 30th, 2009 (2:20 PM).
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ok so everyone says umbreon is like the worst pokemon ever because it has poor attack but seriously before all this EV and IV junk came out it was i great pokemon so why do people hate it so much
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Old September 30th, 2009 (2:26 PM).
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I like it it's cool and its have pretty cool attacks plus you could teach it some tms to give it better attacks and now you can raise its stats with EV training.
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Old September 30th, 2009 (2:35 PM).
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ok so everyone says umbreon is like the worst pokemon ever because it has poor attack but seriously before all this EV and IV junk came out it was i great pokemon
LOL, aren't you aware that the EV system was always there? They just changed it so it couldn't be easily abused.
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so why do people hate it so much
People hate it because it is a defensive pokemon.
I never used it, but it seems to make a pretty good OU pokemon, if Smogon is correct with their data.
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Old September 30th, 2009 (5:21 PM).
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Those who don't like Umbreon don't know how to use it properly (or have been pwned by someone who did use it correctly). Baton Pass makes it a great support Pokemon, and Umbreon can take a few hits while it increases its stats before Passing them on. It even works well on its own, able to take its opponent's strong hits.

Admittedly, Umbreon isn't the ideal in-game Pokemon, but it's the competitive scene where it gets to really shine.
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Old September 30th, 2009 (5:32 PM).
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Umbreon worked great as a staller for me when I was fighting the Elite Four, not to mention the perks of Baton Pass. o:
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Old September 30th, 2009 (7:35 PM).
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yeah i love doing a couple curses baton pass into azumarill =p
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Old September 30th, 2009 (8:15 PM).
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I've always liked Umbreon. Infact, I plan on using it on my next playthrough.
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Old September 30th, 2009 (10:34 PM).
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Umbreon rules. Hell, i've even used it in Ubers, because most leads are Deoxys.

It's not the best in-game poke, but it can be used
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Old October 1st, 2009 (3:58 AM).
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It's an okay pokemon...? =3=;

I don't think a whole thread dedicated to it is necessary, though. ):
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