SquareEnix Answers: FFVII remake response. Page 2

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I'd love to see a remake for VII, especially with a little added content, like a few references to the Compilation titles, like maybe the ruins of Banora Village from Crisis Core.

However, I'd like remakes for V & VI first, especially VI. I'm still a little annoyed that they just get DS remakes while I'm positive that a VII remake will get the full monty and get made for a current or next gen console.

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Such a surge in fanaticism if this were to come to pass...

I wouldn't mind seeing it though, I'd like to see Cloud for who he's supposed to be in FFVII, not the sad punk in all the subsequent spin-offs and AC.
Actually he's like that in FFVII is well, at least he is when he finds out the truth about himself. Before that he thought he was impersonating Zack.

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Such a surge in fanaticism if this were to come to pass...

I wouldn't mind seeing it though, I'd like to see Cloud for who he's supposed to be in FFVII, not the sad punk in all the subsequent spin-offs and AC.
Cloud was more annoying in-game than in the other stuff. He probably spent half the game whining about his past, and then the other half whining about that thing that happens halfway through the game (though there is some overlap where he's whining about both).
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Cloud was more of a jackass in the games and at least it was amusing sometimes. Now he's just emo emo emo and it's super boring. I prefer his character in the original game. :(


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I would prefer a FFVIII or FFVI remake more, but I agree that a FFVII remake would be first.
FFVI remake, definitely. NOT FFVIII... Please God, not FFVIII...
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FFVI remake, definitely. NOT FFVIII... Please God, not FFVIII...
I don't see why everyone thought that game was so bad. x]
Well, no, I can answer that; The junction system.
I still thought it was a pretty epic game though.

But yeah, it takes replaying FFVII to relike Cloud, I found out.
At first I was thinking "Why do I have to play as this emo sack of fail?" but after he got done bawwing and remembered who he really was in VII's second disc you start to like him a little better.
I don't think his english voice actor is going to be able to easily match his role in the original games, though. His voice actor is so lifeless. Same with Tifa's.
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Omg I know. D: I can't stand Cloud or Tifa's English VAs. They're just so dull. v_v; I actually don't like Sephiroth's either.

:( Lmao damnit now you've given me a reason not to want a remake.


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I don't see why everyone thought that game was so bad. x]
I know, right? FF8 was awesome. After 7, it was my favorite FF.
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Omg I know. D: I can't stand Cloud or Tifa's English VAs. They're just so dull. v_v; I actually don't like Sephiroth's either.

:( Lmao damnit now you've given me a reason not to want a remake.
Have you heard cloud casting fire moves in Dissidia? x]
"BURN. BURN. BURN."
video of mage cloud:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jy0owZNUntg

I swear if it's still the same VA (which I know it would be) I may have to mute voices through the options.
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I don't see why everyone thought that game was so bad. x]
Well, no, I can answer that; The junction system.
Actually, if it was just that, it would be fine. I personally didn't have a big problem with the junction system. In fact, it actually eliminates alot of grinding by tying the majority of your character stats to GF abilities (you still needed AP and the spells, but that was really easy to get with simple GF ability combinations). And this is nice for keeping your levels low while maintaining properly powered up characters. Once you learn it, it's actually a relatively good system.

My biggest problem was with the story. SpoonyOne says it pretty well. The story is rushed and the characters are pretty much the epitomy of anime stereotypes, and the ending just makes no sense, even to people that DO like the game. Seriously, there are more theories on the ending of FFVIII than there are shipping fics for the entire series. People have been banned from Final Fantasy fansites because they had differing opinions. When the real fans don't get the story, you know there's trouble in paradise.

All this while the game boasts the most realisticly designed characters they had in an RPG at that point. So of course we were expecting realism. Who wouldn't? If you're gonna have realistic characters, give them realistic weapons. There's a guy that wields a sword that shoots bullets and another guy that can destroy a tank with his fists! And if that isn't enough to convince you, they leave the key to a nuclear missile silo in the middle of the desert, unguarded! Who would do that?! I mean, REALLY!

And to think... FFX was worse... Yeah... That's what I thought about FFVIII... And FFX was worse... way worse...



But yes, I would love to see an FFVII remake, maybe after they remake FFV and FFVI. That would probably be the most likely scenario if they were going to do one.
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Seriously, there are more theories on the ending of FFVIII than there are shipping fics for the entire series.
Uh, and this is bad how? Some of the greatest stories in history have ambiguous endings. It forces the audience to think about the work. Also, hate on FF8 / FF10 elsewhere. This isn't the "bash your least favorite FF game" thread. :/
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I know, right? FF8 was awesome. After 7, it was my favorite FF.
I suggest that you watch the review that SpoonyOne gives FFVIII.
Choppy story that focuses around love than world saving(or in this case, saving all time) and plotholes galore. If you remember the space scene, you will remember the hitchhikers guide to the galaxy that they pulled on us.


A Final Fantasy 7 would be ever so loved by the community; it sold the most games out of any final fantasy, and had the most remakes. It has what the public wants(a remake) and gives what the company needs(money.) I don't see why they shouldn't do it, unless they made it god awful like The Spirits Within.

And I can't believe you guys are forgetting about "beacause"
Seriously.

The only thing I require out of the blatantly obvious is side quests; I would actually like to see a side quest for fighting Sapphire, Omega, and Jade WEAPON, since they didn't even make a good appearance(especially when Sapphire weapon was shot in the face by Sister ray and Jade wasn't even there, as well as Omega.)
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Uh, and this is bad how? Some of the greatest stories in history have ambiguous endings. It forces the audience to think about the work. Also, hate on FF8 / FF10 elsewhere. This isn't the "bash your least favorite FF game" thread. :/
Yeah, endings. Key word. FFVIII was twisted and contrived for the whole second half of the game. Even if you're not counting the endings, it's still hard to defend something so blatant. It's like they were running up on a deadline and had to throw together a ton of things in 2 discs. I think the most plausible theory I've ever heard for VIII is that all the characters were from different timelines and they all got thrown into the current one during their own time compressions. But even that has more holes than swiss cheese. You mention that it isn't bad, but I guarantee that even you can't make sense of it. The development team can't make sense of it. How's that for bad?


As for FFX, all I've gotta do to prove my point about it is post this as a response. Yeah, the hyperlink command is currently broken, so I'll just post it below:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BU8-e-C4Uy0

Seriously, it's so bad that it's unfair. It really is indefensible, even if you are a fan of the game. And you know what's really sad? That's not even the worst of it.


As it is, I already gave my opinion on a possible remake of FFVII (the one where I said I'm all for a remake of FFVII, just not VIII). Try reading my post a bit more thoroughly before making ridiculous assumptions. Get in the game.
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I suggest that you watch the review that SpoonyOne gives FFVIII.
Choppy story that focuses around love than world saving(or in this case, saving all time) and plotholes galore. If you remember the space scene, you will remember the hitchhikers guide to the galaxy that they pulled on us.
I liked the story for many of those reasons, not despite them. Same thing goes for 7; some of the unusual things they did just made it better for me.

Yeah, endings. Key word. FFVIII was twisted and contrived for the whole second half of the game. Even if you're not counting the endings, it's still hard to defend something so blatant. It's like they were running up on a deadline and had to throw together a ton of things in 2 discs. You mention that it isn't bad, but I guarantee that even you can't make sense of it. The development team can't make sense of it. How's that for bad?

As for FFX, all I've gotta do to prove my point about it is post this as a response. Yeah, the hyperlink command is currently broken, so I'll just post it below:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BU8-e-C4Uy0

Seriously, it's so bad that it's unfair. It really is indefensible, even if you are a fan of the game. And you know what's really sad? That's not even the worst of it.


As it is, I already gave my opinion on a possible remake of FFVII (the one where I said I'm all for a remake of FFVII, just not VIII). Try reading my post a bit more thoroughly before making ridiculous assumptions. Get in the game.
I can sum up my response with a single link.

Guess what? I enjoyed it. I thought it was a spectacular game, and so did thousands of other people. Cry all you want about how horrible you thought the plot was; I'll be over here, having fun.

And I never said you didn't provide a relevant response at all. What I said was to whine about games you hate elsewhere.
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Guess what? I enjoyed it. I thought it was a spectacular game, and so did thousands of other people.
Well, sadly you are right. The game won awards for its song, 'Eyes on Me' and it is loved and cosplayed by countless fans... many of whom have actually spent years on it refining their techniques to enable them to beat the game faster, and with more limits to what they can and can't do. I even watched part of a GF only Let's Play of it, where the LPer went totally bat---- insane toward the end, over a boss he was having trouble with. The first video of the fight was kind of funny. By the third and fourth video, it had become tragic. By the fifth video, I was simply looking for a Retsuprae.

I just think there's better games for people to spend their time on... like the Suikoden series, which is really awesome. Or Final Fantasy VII. Granted, that's been played to death by fans already, but we're still posting topics about remakes. That should tell you something.
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There's nothing wrong with me liking FF8. It's certainly not "sad," as you put it. I don't think anyone's in a position to determine what we should or should not be playing, TVYM. :/
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If you don't like it, don't buy it. There's nothing compelling you to buy every re-release. People (including me) buy re-releases because they want to; what's wrong with putting something out there that people want to play?
There's nothing wrong with a rerelease, but 6 releases? Come on, that's ridiculous.
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There's nothing wrong with a rerelease, but 6 releases? Come on, that's ridiculous.
Which game? Because FFVII's had about half a re-release up to this point (a half, because the PSN FFVII is just downloading FFVII via PSN, so it doesn't count as a full re-release because there isn't really anything new). If they remake it on a next-gen console, I'd probably still buy it. Sure it's cheesy and cliche ridden, but so are all the great games. I bought the remake of Wild Arms. And it's awesome, proving that remakes can work if done right.

As for FFVI, the DS version will likely be the first time that I've legitimately owned the game since the PSX version, and I can't stand the long load times between battles in that version (and my SNES version is still MIA, hence the reason I got the PSX version; I really didn't care about FFV). I did get the GBA version, for a dollar at MME, but I don't even know if it's legit or not, because a dollar for a GBA RPG seems too good to be true. I got it anyway, because FFVI is my all time favorite FF game (far as I can tell, it's the real game)...
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[QUOTE=Fox♠;5211468]It was the first 3D Final Fantasy, and for it's time, was revolutionary./QUOTE]

This times this times this plz. Every game in a series that jumped from 2d to 3d is glorified. 7 is no better than any other game in the series, it was just groundbreaking at the time and everyone loved that. if you think about it, 6 & 7 are essentially the same game. evil empire = shinra / the returners = avalanche / kefka destroying the world = sephiroth destroying the world. The only differenece is that kefka's a badass on a scale of one to badass and sephiroth is a one.

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This times this times this plz. Every game in a series that jumped from 2d to 3d is glorified. 7 is no better than any other game in the series, it was just groundbreaking at the time and everyone loved that. if you think about it, 6 & 7 are essentially the same game. evil empire = shinra / the returners = avalanche / kefka destroying the world = sephiroth destroying the world. The only differenece is that kefka's a badass on a scale of one to badass and sephiroth is a one.
Sephiroth is plenty badass. Go whine about how overrated the game is elsewhere, kthx. I played FF7 years after its release, after having played plenty of other 3D games, and I still found it to be one of the best games of all time. So basically, you're full of crap.
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Sephiroth is plenty badass. Go whine about how overrated the game is elsewhere, kthx. I played FF7 years after its release, after having played plenty of other 3D games, and I still found it to be one of the best games of all time. So basically, you're full of crap.
I don't think you realize how much you come off as a whiny fan boy in this post. You're liking of sephiroth is just that, YOURS. don't come whining and *****ing at me because I dont like him, not everybody shares youre tasteless opinion. how can you comment on my post, calling it whiny, when thats all yours is, just on the other side of the fence. PROTIP: think before you post, it does wonders.

edit; reading your usertitle right after your post = HILARIOUS

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pointless flaming
I don't engage in flame wars, sorry. You didn't make a single point there. This is a FF7 thread, not a "hate on FF7" thread, and that's still true.
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You didn't make a single point there.
I made a point, and it still stands tall. if you can't prove that your post wasn't like mine, if not exactly, then my point will continue to stand. you see, you dont try and call someone out by doing the exact same thing they did.

This is a FF7 thread, not a "hate on FF7" thread, and that's still true.
nah bro, this was a thread about a ffvii remake and our feelings on the game. You posted your opinion, great. I proceeded to post my opinion and you got all butthurt. That's your problem, not mine. bring it up with staff if need be.

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Just recently in late August of 2009 at a Germany gaming convention, website VG247 asked Square Producers Yoshi Kitase and Motomu Toriyama the big question on many game player's minds;
Will Final Fantasy VII ever be brought back to life?

They responded with a surprisingly positive and hope bringing response, stating that there is no team developing or project development yet, but they discuss a remake very often.
Final Fantasy VII is a big deal to the team.

Again, while no team is working on producing a remake currently, it is being discussed a lot between the producers at Square.
They also responded saying that just recently the original FFVII was resleased for purchase on PSN, "so if you could play that for the time being, it should be fun."

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It's very odd, I found this recent article on accident.
Me and my cousin just started separate files on FFVII last Friday and we were googling locations of weapons, and I accidentally found this.

A great game in my opinion that deserves to get a revamp. Some others will disagree and say FFVI or something deserves a remake, but we all know which game would get the remake first here. x]

It would be nice to get some voice acting and a nicer look at everything from modern day graphics.
nah bro, this was a thread about a ffvii remake and our feelings on the game. You posted your opinion, great. I proceeded to post my opinion and you got all butthurt. That's your problem, not mine. bring it up with staff if need be.
I didn't see anything there asking what you thought of FF7.

I made a point, and it still stands tall. if you can't prove that your post wasn't like mine, if not exactly, then my point will continue to stand. you see, you dont try and call someone out by doing the exact same thing they did.
Your "point" was that FF7 was overrated because it was 3D, and every game that makes the transition to 3D game is glorified. I shot it down with a simple counterexample; how does that make me a "whiny fanboy" with a "tasteless opinion?"

Also, if you keep flaming, I'll stop responding. I'm keeping it civil, I'd appreciate it if you do the same. Or, you know, you can take your crap elsewhere.
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