somebody knows HP Pavilion dv8t ,any cheaper?

Started by liketoys0000 October 19th, 2009 11:13 PM
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HP Pavilion dv8t is my dream laptop,i want it to play games ,but it is always so expensive ,and i wait it on sale .yeah,i search on dealstudio.com today ,i find it only for $1100
http://www.dealstudio.com/searchdeals.php?type=id&q=d66933&ru=2780014
you know any other places have cheap ones ?plz!!

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Well, you don't NEED 3GHz. Anything in the mid to high 2GHz range will do fine, but 3GHz NEVER hurt anyone.

Except perhaps someone who overclocked incorrectly.
When are you gaming? 2006? You need 3GHz if you're playing anything that's come out in the past year or two, or your framerate will be in the toilet.
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Yeah, I game in 2006 cause 2.8GHz in a dual core system is just appalling in todays gaming world. Sucks Fallout 3 has great frame rate and Sims 3 runs just fine on my system. Oh, and TF2? Forget about it. That thing going at 60+ FPS? That just sucks, you know? Man, I wish I could play them on settings higher then the highest they can go. I wonder what I'm missing without those 200MHz...

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Yeah, I game in 2006 cause 2.8GHz in a dual core system is just appalling in todays gaming world. Sucks Fallout 3 has great frame rate and Sims 3 runs just fine on my system. Oh, and TF2? Forget about it. That thing going at 60+ FPS? That just sucks, you know? Man, I wish I could play them on settings higher then the highest they can go. I wonder what I'm missing without those 200MHz...
Maybe if you're putting your settings at the bare minimum (or forcing them lower), you might get that high with 2.8.
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Maybe if you're putting your settings at the bare minimum (or forcing them lower), you might get that high with 2.8.
And in the words of my mysterious friend:

Where have you been learning about CPUs, your grandmother? Clock on a CPU is only an indication of a per-core speed, and doesn't take into account die size, FSB, ref clock, stock multiplier, and XXnm architecture. Judging processors by small increases in GHZ is simply stupid, and I bet you anything that my 2.8GHZ Phenom II can kick the crap out of whatever you have in your PC.

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And in the words of my mysterious friend:

Where have you been learning about CPUs, your grandmother? Clock on a CPU is only an indication of a per-core speed, and doesn't take into account die size, FSB, ref clock, stock multiplier, and XXnm architecture. Judging processors by small increases in GHZ is simply stupid, and I bet you anything that my 2.8GHZ Phenom II can kick the crap out of whatever you have in your PC.
I didn't know they clocked Phenoms that low. Whatever, it doesn't matter. In most mid-range processors, you're going to have very little variation on any of those metrics that you listed, which is why clock speed matters so much; it's the only metric with significant variation. If you get something priced through the roof that, for whatever reason, has a low clock speed, then yes; that particular processor will probably outperform the 3GHz mid-range thing. However, I'm assuming TS budget isn't high enough to get something like that (at least not in a laptop). Comparing two near-identical processors with different clock speeds, the one with the 2.8GHz clock will give significantly lower framerates than the one with the 3.*GHz clock.
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I'm sorry, but I don't believe you really know what you're talking about. Yes, frame rate has some to do with the CPU, no, 200MHz isn't going to change much. The video card has much more to do with the frame rate and what not then the CPU does, though the CPU can bottleneck the GPU. However, this would be in the low 2GHz rage for dual core systems, not the magical 200MHz between 2.8 and 3GHz.

Regardless, you wouldn't use a budget, mid range laptop for gaming anyway.

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I'm sorry, but I don't believe you really know what you're talking about. Yes, frame rate has some to do with the CPU, no, 200MHz isn't going to change much. The video card has much more to do with the frame rate and what not then the CPU does, though the CPU can bottleneck the GPU. However, this would be in the low 2GHz rage for dual core systems, not the magical 200MHz between 2.8 and 3GHz.

Regardless, you wouldn't use a budget, mid range laptop for gaming anyway.
If you didn't have enough money for a high-range one, you would. Anyway, I wasn't talking about the difference between 2.8 and 3.0, more the difference between 2.8 and 3.3ish, which is a big enough difference (especially on a laptop) that you'll see an impact. And games that are computationally heavy will need a good CPU to support that, or performance will degrade.
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*facepalm* You changed what you're talking about. I'm sorry, but there's no point in arguing this with you if you can't keep consistency.
I said 3.* in the previous post, so it appears I did not change what I was talking about. Maybe I wasn't clear enough, but I did mean mid 3.x GHz. And even if I didn't, my point still stands; there may be some games that don't suffer from a lower-clocked CPU, but the majority won't run well on a mid-range processor at <3.x GHz.
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No, your point is misleading. At most, the difference between 2.8GHz and 3.3GHz is just a couple of frames, by no means a 20+ FPS difference (maybe a 7FPS difference in worst conditions). Now, between a 1.66GHz and 3.3GHz, there's of course going to be bigger FPS differences, but that's generally found in Netbooks, which are not designed for gaming at all. Not to mention you could have the fastest CPU in the world and have it over clocked to an even faster speed and still get terrible FPS if your video card sucks, and a dual core 2.8GHz CPU will game just as well (if only slightly slower, not this tremendous FPS difference you're claiming) then a 3.3GHz CPU if the video cards are the same. It's like saying 60FPS is worse then 67FPS, when the human eye can't see higher then that anyway.

Besides, we all want 4+GHz CPUs just to say we have them.