Trade Corner Suggestion Thread Page 10

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Twilight should be modded haha :3

Just sort of backing up Twlights claim, Chains, she honestly isn't a hacker. Everybody makes mistakes, and its good to learn from them. I'm sorry to say that I have not Hack Checked all my pokemon (yet), but when someone informs me I have a hacked pokemon, I take it off of my thread. Our mothers have told us to not point fingers at each other, so everything should be confronted in a calm and mature way.

I do suggest - like many others have - that we should have an almighty Blacklist on PC, but I'm just wondering how exactly someone makes it? Does a person make it if he/she accidently trades a hack from their site, or a person who deliberatly hacks? And if so, how would a person know if it was that specific person who hacked? The person could pull the whole "I didn't know it was a a hack, honestly! :o" crap. I'd like to be enlightened please ^_^

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IIRC Syncronizing lets you get any IV combo possible, even on legends.

Might be wrong, haven't did it since I discovered RNG...
No... im pretty sure that "some" it wont work as some method 1 Seed's wont even work with a Synch for Method J Pokemon so im pretty sure that some Combinations are illegal... I think your thinking of wondercard pokemon
Now even though 31/31/31/31/31/31 Impish is Illegal on a Legend on a Wondercard it is because the Nature is generated Randomly...
And i might be wrong too id have to ask Mingot XD

EDIT: Dont know what Smogon has to do with this.....


And this is my point everything here is dealt with so....... "delecitly" i guesss i could say even though RNC isnt a hacker herself she is resonsible for what she trades correct? and is her respnsobility to check her pokemon before she trades them correct?
Also some people just get a slap on the wrist for this kind of stuff here and i think more should be done then that and thats why there are so many hacks in some threads.....
What im trying to say is PC either has to get alittle stricter with the Trade Forum and make a Blacklist or yeah its just gunna go farther down the drain
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Not once have i actually contacted her and i havent bothered she doesnt listen to anythign i have to say....
No offense or anything but thats bull. If you haven't contacted her, then how would you know what her reaction would be?
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Well a blacklist is basically a list of members who are known hackers,scammers etc. reported by someone who has scammed by them. Then you list why user x is on the blacklist and how serious of an offense it was.
No, I mean I know what a blacklist is, I'm just wondering by the part I'm bolding. What exactly would the limit be for a person to be blackmailed.
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No... im pretty sure that "some" it wont work as some method 1 Seed's wont even work with a Synch for Method J Pokemon so im pretty sure that some Combinations are illegal... I think your thinking of wondercard pokemon
Now even though 31/31/31/31/31/31 Impish is Illegal on a Legend on a Wondercard it is because the Nature is generated Randomly...
And i might be wrong too id have to ask MingoXD

So someone slse said it, and its true?

EDIT: Dont know what Smogon has to do with this.....


And this is my point everything here is dealt with so....... "delecitly" i guesss i could say even though RNC isnt a hacker herself she is resonsible for what she trades correct? and is her respnsobility to check her pokemon before she trades them correct?

Why are you on RNC? AND YES, SHE IS RESPONSIBLE BUT WHAT IF SHE DIDNT KNOW? And what if she cant check her pokemon?

Also some people just get a slap on the wrist for this kind of stuff here and i think more should be done then that and thats why there are so many hacks in some threads.....
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No, I mean I know what a blacklist is, I'm just wondering by the part I'm bolding. What exactly would the limit be for a person to be blackmailed.


Doing it on purpose I would say.

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Doing it on purpose I would say.
Unforutately that is hard to find out.
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Doing it on purpose I would say.
No... im pretty sure that "some" it wont work as some method 1 Seed's wont even work with a Synch for Method J Pokemon so im pretty sure that some Combinations are illegal... I think your thinking of wondercard pokemon
Now even though 31/31/31/31/31/31 Impish is Illegal on a Legend on a Wondercard it is because the Nature is generated Randomly...
And i might be wrong too id have to ask MingoXD

So someone slse said it, and its true?


I think Mingot the person who cracked the RNG knows what hes talking about...
And yes it is true its been proven.


EDIT: Dont know what Smogon has to do with this.....


And this is my point everything here is dealt with so....... "delecitly" i guesss i could say even though RNC isnt a hacker herself she is resonsible for what she trades correct? and is her respnsobility to check her pokemon before she trades them correct?

Why are you on RNC? AND YES, SHE IS RESPONSIBLE BUT WHAT IF SHE DIDNT KNOW? And what if she cant check her pokemon?


Shes obvioulsy capable of checking a Vaporeon with 383 Sp.Atk O_o
And im not just "on" her, im talking about hacks in general and am using her thread as an example, i have nothing agaisnt her but personally feel even if she doesnt know is responsible for what she trades as is anyone else


Also some people just get a slap on the wrist for this kind of stuff here and i think more should be done then that and thats why there are so many hacks in some threads.....


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Around here nowadays, no it wouldn't.

If a respected trader has a hacked pokemon(like TwillightBlade for example) has 1 hack, does she deserve an infraction/ban/susoended thread?

Ive seen threads like, I HAVE EVERY POKEMON JUST ASK AND YOU WILL RECIEVE, those are obviously hackers.

EDIT: @ Chains: WTF, well thats an obvious hack.....

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A blacklist would be simple to do; people may submit a trader for the blacklist detailing exactly why they are and linking to the conversation between them and the eledged hacker as proof of the altercation. Mods can then add at their own disgretion or add them to a suspect list, judging whether the trade knew the Pokemon they were trading was hacked or did it intentionally (Which is usually obvious). Should any member be reported several times then they go on automatically.

@ elhero: Blade used to be a mod before. And the reason Chains has such a problem with the RNC thing (and I saw the VM conversation between them about it) is that RNC basically said straight up he was wrong and immediately rejected his advice and took offense from it without considering what he was saying or checking the Pokes even though Chains was in fact right.

From what I've learned even through Synchronize, certain combos still aren't possible.
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Around here nowadays, no it wouldn't.

If a respected trader has a hacked pokemon(like TwillightBlade for example) has 1 hack, does she deserve an infraction/ban/susoended thread?

Ive seen threads like, I HAVE EVERY POKEMON JUST ASK AND YOU WILL RECIEVE, those are obviously hackers.

EDIT: @ Chains: WTF, well thats an obvious hack.....
That is my point.... She had it on her thread even though it was obvious anyways im done talking about her :)


A blacklist would be simple to do; people may submit a trader for the blacklist detailing exactly why they are and linking to the conversation between them and the eledged hacker as proof of the altercation. Mods can then add at their own disgretion or add them to a suspect list, judging whether the trade knew the Pokemon they were trading was hacked or did it intentionally (Which is usually obvious). Should any member be reported several times then they go on automatically.

@ elhero: Blade used to be a mod before. And the reason Chains has such a problem with the RNC thing (and I saw the VM conversation between them about it) is that RNC basically said straight up he was wrong and immediately rejected his advice and took offense from it without considering what he was saying or checking the Pokes even though Chains was in fact right.

From what I've learned even through Synchronize, certain combos still aren't possible.
Thank you.....

EDIT: Syndrome I agree atleast ita a "Step Forward" right?

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I do suggest - like many others have - that we should have an almighty Blacklist on PC, but I'm just wondering how exactly someone makes it? Does a person make it if he/she accidently trades a hack from their site, or a person who deliberatly hacks? And if so, how would a person know if it was that specific person who hacked? The person could pull the whole "I didn't know it was a a hack, honestly! :o" crap. I'd like to be enlightened please ^_^
This is the main reason as to why I'm weary to having a blacklist. [I'm pretty sure I've posted this before . . :\]

No... im pretty sure that "some" it wont work as some method 1 Seed's wont even work with a Synch for Method J Pokemon so im pretty sure that some Combinations are illegal... I think your thinking of wondercard pokemon
Now even though 31/31/31/31/31/31 Impish is Illegal on a Legend on a Wondercard it is because the Nature is generated Randomly...
And i might be wrong too id have to ask Mingot XD

EDIT: Dont know what Smogon has to do with this.....


And this is my point everything here is dealt with so....... "delecitly" i guesss i could say even though RNC isnt a hacker herself she is resonsible for what she trades correct? and is her respnsobility to check her pokemon before she trades them correct?
Also some people just get a slap on the wrist for this kind of stuff here and i think more should be done then that and thats why there are so many hacks in some threads.....
What im trying to say is PC either has to get alittle stricter with the Trade Forum and make a Blacklist or yeah its just gunna go farther down the drain
But, people make mistakes. People can slip up - if one is informed about it, usually one takes care of it without any fuss ^^;
Rarely are there any cases severe enough where people repeatedly trade hacked Pokemon with malicious intent to trade them. :/

Frankly, Chains, if you went around telling her that she had hacked Pokemon the same way that you told TwilightBlade or simply impolitely, I would understand why she might not pay attention or ignore you.
If you're going to tell someone something like that, be polite. D:
Your attitude has a lot to do with the way people react to you. So, try taking that into consideration.
I mean, yes, she might not have listened to you, but were you being polite? D:
Courtesy goes everywhere.
Fine with me your thread is full of **** and hacks anyways ;) btw i will report your thread if i do happen to see anymore ok? ok.
But seriously about the Vaporeon you couldnt tell that was hacked? Your 35 and didnt have the common sense to notice that? Im 15 and did O_o
Have a nice day :)
RNC come on things like this piss me off, dont get me wrong im trying to help, BUT this has FLAWLESS IV'S and its Shiny, this does not appear randomly, i mean come on use some common sense before trading for stuff like this... you have to have a SID/ID Combo for certain Shiny Spreads ok? This is hacked also this is from the 3rd Generation you dont get pokemon like this form there ok?
Reactions such as these are a bit over the top, and unnecessary. :c
I mean, it might not appear as obvious to some, and you definitely needn't be so blunt. I mean, you're trying to help, but you definitely should be more polite. ~_~

[however, further in her defense, didn't she say]
This may not even be any of your business, but I haven't even traded any thing from my thread in over a month, I am in the middle of replacing alot and checking every thing, so if any thing is hacked it will be removed, so stay out of my thread and checking my pokes, I don't need you help for nothing.
You have a nice day!!
So, no need to get all worked up about it. :B

Well a blacklist is basically a list of members who are known hackers,scammers etc. reported by someone who has scammed by them. Then you list why user x is on the blacklist and how serious of an offense it was.
But, there's never really been a need for it. Most traders that really do trade off hacked pokemon usually get banned after so long, and then they usually just don't come back. D:

That is my point.... She had it on her thread even though it was obvious anyways im done talking about her :)
It may be obvious to you, but you are not everyone, clearly.
I'm not one for forcing infractions upon people who clearly made a mistake in judgment - that's absurd and unfair. :/
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But, there's never really been a need for it. Most traders that really do trade off hacked pokemon usually get banned after so long, and then they usually just don't come back. D:
On the contrary, in my time on the trade boards any time a serial hacker/scammer gets caught out the worst that happens is they get their thread locked and then a month later they reopen a new one and start scamming again. If may have been different before, but over the last few months I have seen so many scammers get away with it and live to scam another day, which they take advantage of.
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On the contrary, in my time on the trade boards any time a serial hacker/scammer gets caught out the worst that happens is they get their thread locked and then a month later they reopen a new one and start scamming again. If may have been different before, but over the last few months I have seen so many scammers get away with it and live to scam another day, which they take advantage of.
Prove that you've seen so many scammers.
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Im actually backing up Greenes statement, Elhero
Don't get me wrong, Syndrome, I'm not saying hes necessarily wrong. I'm just wondering who exactly had their thread locked by scamming, and then made another quick thread.
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On the contrary, in my time on the trade boards any time a serial hacker/scammer gets caught out the worst that happens is they get their thread locked and then a month later they reopen a new one and start scamming again. If may have been different before, but over the last few months I have seen so many scammers get away with it and live to scam another day, which they take advantage of.
Such as whom? oO;
I've seen a couple reports where you've thought this, but you were actually mistaken . . D:
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I'm not talking about people I reported, I talking about those times when a thread goes into uproar with everybody getting down a hackers throat because they have been caught scamming and they just start insulting everyone because they have no way out, and usually that hacker opens up a new thread a couple of weeks later.

But since you asked for an example, michaelt1000 (think that is the exact username) is a good example. Scammed three people in the space of an hour one day, they all complained on his thread, he laughed and called them fools for getting scammed so easy, and all that happened is the thread got locked. He is still trying to trade on here and still hasn't been banned, and he continues to pop up with new threads and continues to scam people even though about 10 people reported him that day.

I'm not saying the mods don't care or doing a bad job, but I'm saying in the case that something like this is missed, having a blacklist allows people to make judgment themselves without having to rely of some scammer getting banned.

Prove that you've seen so many scammers.
Yea I'll just go back through several months worth of threads, seriously dude be realistic, are you so naive that you think there are little amount of scammers on here???
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I'm not talking about people I reported, I talking about those times when a thread goes into uproar with everybody getting down a hackers throat because they have been caught scamming and they just start insulting everyone because they have no way out, and usually that hacker opens up a new thread a couple of weeks later.


But since you asked for an example, michaelt1000 (think that is the exact username) is a good example. Scammed three people in the space of an hour one day, they all complained on his thread, he laughed and called them fools for getting scammed so easy, and all that happened is the thread got locked. He is still trying to trade on here and still hasn't been banned, and he continues to pop up with new threads and continues to scam people even though about 10 people reported him that day.
Report him then. Let the Moderators take care of it. They don't know unless you notify them.

I'm not saying the mods don't care or doing a bad job, but I'm saying in the case that something like this is missed, having a blacklist allows people to make judgment themselves without having to rely of some scammer getting banned.
Its missed because the user isn't reported.


Yea I'll just go back through several months worth of threads, seriously dude be realistic, are you so naive that you think there are little amount of scammers on here???
No, I actually wasn't being naive. Besides, you just gave me an example about michael1000 above. There really is no need for this excessive comment on the bottom.
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@ elhero; dude why did you reply to me when you clearly didn't read my post properly. Firstly, the comment isn't excessive as that example was not to you or in reply to you, it was directed specifically to Ursula. Also, saying the incident was missed because nobody reported him is a ridiculous thing to say when the very last line in that paragraph before your reply states that 10 people reported the guy.

And explain something else on a more general note, if a mod locks a persons topic because they scammed people, how exactly can you say the mod doesn't know that the person is a scammer???
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@ elhero; dude why did you reply to me when you clearly didn't read my post properly. Firstly, the comment isn't excessive as that example was not to you or in reply to you, it was directed specifically to Ursula. Also, saying the incident was missed because nobody reported him is a ridiculous thing to say when the very last line in that paragraph before your reply states that 10 people reported the guy.

And explain something else on a more general note, if a mod locks a persons topic because they scammed people, how exactly can you say the mod doesn't know that the person is a scammer???
I apologize for missing that. All I have to ask is did you report him?
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I apologize for missing that. All I have to ask is did you report him?
*facepalm* Seriously read the posts; I already said that I personally did not report him, I said ten other people did, I said that I am not going to talk about anyone that I reported myself (because those grounds would obviously be biased), so why exactly do you have to ask??? I'm not trying to freak out or be rude, but it is a bit annoying when you apologize for not reading something and then ask a question whose answer is posted above by me also.
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*facepalm* Seriously read the posts; I already said that I personally did not report him, I said ten other people did, I said that I am not going to talk about anyone that I reported myself (because those grounds would obviously be biased), so why exactly do you have to ask??? I'm not trying to freak out or be rude, but it is a bit annoying when you apologize for not reading something and then ask a question whose answer is posted above by me also.
No need, your not being rude. I'd just like to let you know in your other post you did not state that you did or did not report him, so I was just trying to find an answer to my question.
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