Trade Corner Suggestion Thread Page 7

Started by professor plum November 10th, 2009 5:11 PM
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How about a Blacklist with a Point System
Heres how it would work
First time you get caught trading hacks no amtter who it came form or if you knew or not You would be given a Warning and given 1 Point
The second time you are caught trading hacks you will recieve another Point and that would put you onto the Blacklist because you were already given a warning
If there is a Third time you will recieve 1 more point and that makes 3 a Mod locks your thread and you get put onto the Blacklist and arent allowed to make another trade thread..... Opinions?

So heres what it would be

Username
Friend Code
Points
1: Reason
2: Reason
3: Reason
Just putting this on the New Page for more Opinions
And you earn points if a member reports you on the blacklist as doing x? Thats actually a good idea....

Instead of not letting them make another thread though, maybe ban them from making one until x amount of time is up? and then if they dont stop ban all threads by them permanently.
You would just earn a Point eveyr time a hack is found on your thread or any other reason such as lying about the IV's and Natures of said traded pokemon
And no i dont think there should be a time of ban it should be permanant after 3 Warngind dont you think you had enough leeway?

Also there should be a Blacklist for Disconnectors and Hackers in the Battle Thread and it could work on a Point System too
But who is just going to go through every single traders thread purposely looking for hacks? Thats really not smart IMO, just time consuming ad wasteful.

And a person who recieved a hacked pokemon unknowingly should not be blacklisted for trading it, maybe only if they caught or bred it.

This would require everyone to post their OT/ID on their first post though.
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But who is just going to go through every single traders thread purposely looking for hacks? Thats really not smart IMO, just time consuming ad wasteful.

And a person who recieved a hacked pokemon unknowingly should not be blacklisted for trading it, maybe only if they caught or bred it.

This would require everyone to post their OT/ID on their first post though.
You dont have to go through every thread they will be found in time trust me lol One by one too

And a Person who recieves a Pokemon in a Trade thats hacked should take full responsibility they are responsible for what they trade and should take further precaution to this when it isnt there OT

And yes that would be a Good Idea to list the OT/ID/Username of the Person you got it from and that person should get 2 points autamtically and the psrson who recieved it one, now if you dont think the person that recieved it getting a point is unfair then the hacker themself will just get a point that is up to the Mods to decide
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That seriously wont work. I was on a forum that did a similar thing. Failed horribly.

But how will they know its hacked? ANYONE can Pokesav a pokemon to make it look legit.

What?
I dont see how it wouldnt work

Illegal IV Combinations
Hack Checks
Obvious Reasons like the OT/ID/Pokeball its In/Region it came from

Read it again and you'll understand ^__^
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Because PC is preety much like the one I came from.

Most people with pokesav arent that dumb...illegal IV comos only account for legends. Now, unless we have a set person to do all this checking, how will it get done?
No ive seen about 10 hacks that all had Illegal IV's so no most people dont know

The OT/ID would kinda only account for Events, no?
Obviously, i didnt say it was for regular pokemon but still is an obvious way to tell a hack

Pokeball-----lol
Ummm Egg Move plus Ultra Ball ever think of that? Also some Pokeball's werent available in some regions like Dusk Ball in the 3rd

Most pokemon can be found in multiple regions.
Theres quite a few legends that can only be caught on one game bar some because of HG/SS but what i meant by that is where they were caught, such as Palkia Route 224 (Hack) Or Legnedary dogs from the 3rd Generation with IV's Greater then 5, theres a few more i can think of but im not gunna post it all
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I have a question. Are you just looking at the Iv's of a Pokemon and determining if its a hack or not? Like the pokemon is Shiny and it has almost all 31's across the board? Because my friend is an Iv Breeder and uses RNG, and that feat is very easy to accomplish for him after a few hours.
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No ive seen about 10 hacks that all had Illegal IV's so no most people dont know

Were they Legends?




Obviously, i didnt say it was for regular pokemon but still is an obvious way to tell a hack

Sure




Ummm Egg Move plus Ultra Ball ever think of that?

Who is that stupid?



Theres quite a few legends that can only be caught on one game bar some because of HG/SS but what i meant by that is where they were caught, such as Palkia Route 224 (Hack) Or Legnedary dogs from the 3rd Generation with IV's Greater then 5, theres a few more i can think of but im not gunna post it all

No one who hacks is going to say...I can catch wild palkia swarming on route 224. Its only a UBER, and a Legendary dragon. No one will notice it I bet.
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I have a question. Are you just looking at the Iv's of a Pokemon and determining if its a hack or not? Like the pokemon is Shiny and it has almost all 31's across the board? Because my friend is an Iv Breeder and uses RNG, and that feat is very easy to accomplish for him after a few hours.

Only legendaries can have IV restrictions and Illegal IV's regular pokemon like Sceptile and Bibarel can have any IV combination they like or possible
Like this
Lonely
31/31/31/31/31/31
That is an Illegal IV combination for Cresselia, i know who would want a Lonely Cresselia but its just an example
EDIT: Yes with RNG Abuse you can get the IV's and Nature you want of any Pokemon thats possible to Abuse

No ive seen about 10 hacks that all had Illegal IV's so no most people dont know
Were they Legends?
Obviously, legends are the only ones with Illegal Combinations

Obviously, i didnt say it was for regular pokemon but still is an obvious way to tell a hack
Sure
:)

Ummm Egg Move plus Ultra Ball ever think of that?
Who is that stupid?
Ive seen it before :D

Theres quite a few legends that can only be caught on one game bar some because of HG/SS but what i meant by that is where they were caught, such as Palkia Route 224 (Hack) Or Legnedary dogs from the 3rd Generation with IV's Greater then 5, theres a few more i can think of but im not gunna post it all
No one who hacks is going to say...I can catch wild palkia swarming on route 224. Its only a UBER, and a Legendary dragon. No one will notice it I bet.
Note that these are just obvious ways of telling hacks the obvious and quickest ways, now the most reliable way would be a hack check can we end this discussion?

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Only legendaries can have IV restrictions and Illegal IV's regular pokemon like Sceptile and Bibarel can have any IV combination they like or possible
Like this
Lonely
31/31/31/31/31/31
That is an Illegal IV combination for Cresselia, i know who would want a Lonely Cresselia but its just an example
Thats interesting, I've never heard of that. Why are Legendaries restricted?
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and actually believe it or not LOTS of hackers are that stupid
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Thats interesting, I've never heard of that. Why are Legendaries restricted?
That i cant answer some Combinations werent recorded in the game for them thats all..... thats why you cant use hacked legends on PBR because they have Illegal Combinations and there PID is Illegal
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So Chains, If I downloaded Pokesav right now, And Sav'd a shiny Modest salamence just like the one in my thread, with the same IVs and everything, could you show me which one was hacked?
Obviously not its not a legend it cant have an Illegal IV Combination -__-
I could tell however if these were present
Was caught in a Ball and had an Egg Move
If it didnt say where it came from correctly like recieved from day care couple ____________ (so on information)
Now would it pass a hack check ( NO! )

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Only legendaries can have IV restrictions and Illegal IV's regular pokemon like Sceptile and Bibarel can have any IV combination they like or possible
Like this
Lonely
31/31/31/31/31/31
That is an Illegal IV combination for Cresselia, i know who would want a Lonely Cresselia but its just an example
EDIT: Yes with RNG Abuse you can get the IV's and Nature you want of any Pokemon thats possible to Abuse
Honestly, can you link this list/source of the possible illegal IV combination like I have asked before?

I have tinkered with X-Act's IV to PID applet, and it is saying that a lot of my chained shinies are hacked (although I have used Synchronize...). Griff also tested some monsters, and overall, the sources seem iffy.

Share your knowledge, not keep us in the darkness only to be slain by you.

I think most veterans checks if the ball, moves, location, etc are right... :/

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Obviously not its not a legend it cant have an Illegal IV Combination -__-
I could tell however if these were present
Was caught in a Ball and had an Egg Move
If it didnt say where it came from correctly like recieved from day care couple ____________ (so on information)
Now would it pass a hack check ( NO! )
You could technically just put it on a file on your computer and run a hack check, but I do know how to do that. I have heard people do this before though.
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Obviously not its not a legend it cant have an Illegal IV Combination -__-
I could tell however if these were present

Here we go....

Was caught in a Ball and had an Egg Move

Most bred pokemon are in balls and have egg moves if I know my general pokemon.

If it didnt say where it came from correctly like recieved from day care couple ____________ (so on information)

Again, only idiots would do this.

Now would it pass a hack check ( NO! )

I have seen several legitimate looking Pokesav'd Pokemon do it.

My comments are under yours in boldface.
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Honestly, can you link this list/source of the possible illegal IV combination like I have asked before?

I have tinkered with X-Act's IV to PID applet, and it is saying that a lot of my chained shinies are hacked (although I have used Synchronize...). Griff also tested some monsters, and overall, the sources seem iffy.

Share your knowledge, not keep us in the darkness only to be slain by you.

I think most veterans checks if the ball, moves, location, etc are right... :/
Shoddy has an IV Checker implemented in it, if the IV's you type in are in Red its Illegal :) Note that from whati have heard some pokemon this does not apply for i think generations before D/P/Pt it doesnt so i cannot be sure of this So this is no reliable way to tell but it is a way.....
And by no means im trying to hide any "in the dark" if anything im trying to help

You could technically just put it on a file on your computer and run a hack check, but I do know how to do that. I have heard people do this before though.
Yea there are hack checking softwares i dont own or have any though :/

My comments are under yours in boldface.
Ill edit this in


Obviously not its not a legend it cant have an Illegal IV Combination -__-
I could tell however if these were present
Here we go....
:)

Was caught in a Ball and had an Egg Move
Most bred pokemon are in balls and have egg moves if I know my general pokemon.
What i meant by that was Any other Ball then a Pokeball such as Great or Luxury

If it didnt say where it came from correctly like recieved from day care couple ____________ (so on information)
Again, only idiots would do this.
Again did i say that these are jsut ways of telling and i have seen people do it before so it is still a possibility

Now would it pass a hack check ( NO! )
I have seen several legitimate looking Pokesav'd Pokemon do it.
No you have not, if you have then your hack check software was ass

Mine are not bolded beneath your and Italisized ( Dont know if i spelled that right ) Oh and im not replying to the next Post about this this has been discussed enough :D
Also thank you for adding me to your ignore list :D

EDIT: You can also tell a hacked pokemon if it has Illegal Trash Bytes, I would link to an Example but i dont have enough posts So if anyone wants to see the link click on it in my profile ok?
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Well, I wouldn't mind having a blacklist, but everyone makes mistakes now and then. I mean, one can be an excellent trader, and then, accidentally, a hacked Pokemon comes under radar. I mean, if it's not intentional, then I understand and one shouldn't be blacklisted for that.
However, if one is intentionally scamming members by trading hacked Pokemon repeatedly, then yes, it's a bad thing.
On that note, it's also possible for one to merely lie about whether or not they knew a Pokemon was hacked or not. So.. yeah D:

However, I don't think that a person's reputation from another forum should carry over - that was there, this is here. Sure, there's a possibility that they could do it here, but there's also a chance they've changed. ):

Hmm. What do you guys think? :)

Edit to Add: And guys, keep in mind, PC is PC. It's not BMGf, SPPf, or Smogon. :)
I agree. I totally agree with Ursula.

I would like a Hack-Checking Sticky.

It's not like you assume where one person says they will hack-check your pokemon and they trade it over and 50% of the time get scammed.

The person who wants their pokemon hack-checked post all the information about the pokemon in the thread and one of the seasoned traders here confirms to them whether their pokemon is legit or not.

This is already going on in the DCC and a sticky for it would just reduce SPAM and encourage members unsure about their pokemon to get it hack-checked therefore getting rid of hacks in members trade threads.

Well.... I don't know how to hack check, but I do know someone who really good at hack checking and I'm going to ask him if he's interested in being a member of this site so he can help us. If that's Ok with you guys.
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I wouldnt mind seeing a RNG Help/Information Thread here. And im not talking about RNG Abusing for Shiny Eggs that stuff is so easy, im talking about a whole guide and help thread for those wanting to RNG Abuse for Wild Pokemon/ Legends and Breeding Flawless Pokemon, anyone?
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i like some of the ideas u have chains but some of them are overboard your trying to make this site like smogon which its not.
I dont see how a thread on teaching someone a mechanic of the game is overboard..... And no i know this isnt smogon XD
Keep in mind these are just suggestions :)