Trade Corner Suggestion Thread Page 9

Started by professor plum November 10th, 2009 5:11 PM
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Attention PC, I'm sorry if I have to tell you all this, but I'm afraid we just can't rely on trading with players. I've heard other players on PC and other sites were having problems getting hacked pokemon from players who are hackers and so have I. If we can't rely on other players, then we should stop trading or think first before we trade. Trading with your friends and others is fun but trading is not always a good option. So when Pokemon heartgold and soulsilver comes in the US, I suggest that we all start capturing and breeding our own pokemon. Cause sometimes we're just gonna have to get our own pokemon even though it's not easy.
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I think we, as a community, need to start cracking down on hacks. This place is flooded with them; ~RNC~ has about 5 hacks that I noticed just by reading through her thread, nevermind the ones that were hacked legitly. Those caught trading hacks should be banned.
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I think we, as a community, need to start cracking down on hacks. This place is flooded with them; ~RNC~ has about 5 hacks that I noticed just by reading through her thread, nevermind the ones that were hacked legitly. Those caught trading hacks should be banned.

Neptune is exacty right. However, Just because people, like RNC, are offering hacked pokemon, doesn't mean they are hackers, cause people like RNC are probably victums. So we should help them and teach them to be aware of those who trade hacks. Cause we all don't want to be rude and hateful like the smogoners. If we all want to make PC a friendly site, we should give people chances and help them. And if we all want to make this site reliable like smogon, we have to breed and capture pokemon without relying on trading with other players cause there are other players who want to hack, cheat, and rip you off.

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Kudo: In my experience, the GTS Video Uploader is a poor hack checker, lmao. Then again, legit.exe (aka legal.exe) apparently does not check if a Legendary was caught in the grass or at its proper place, nor whether if a shiny code was used. I would have to tinker with it all more, though. You are so right; nothing is really perfect, but surely we can try, or just have fun, since Pokemon is a game, afterall.

Greene1516: Why meet on Wifi for that...? Could they not post the information on the Quick Questions and ask about a Pokemon's legitimacy? Unless you mean like, someone is trading and is carrying around a shiny Charizard with Surf for fun, thus raising suspicion... Well, idk, they can hack their game if they want to, honestly. Their life, lmao.

Oh, the point of proper hack checking is to check UNSEEN values. Thus, the hack checker needs to have the actual Pokemon, or at least a file version of it. Unless I am terribly mistaken about the community's average IQ, I think that most traders can realize that a Torterra caught on route 209 or a Mew with a National Ribbon are hacked. Google is everyone's friend. :(

I do not believe that those "caught" should be banned, but after 3 different instances/infractions, then yes, they are most likely banned, unless things have changed. I think the first infraction is a good wake up call, anyways.

Syndrome: IMO we need that hacked pokemon list updated badly.

Winner.

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On the Events List, I started a hacked OT list and had another tips (I can probably add in anything about an illegal IV combination now)... I asked to update it, but CME never got around to it, I guess. I bet that the mods have plans, but it's been a year since it has been touched, lol.
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Okay, thats EVENTS

We need one for regular pokemon and legendaries. that could be like this

Pokemon:
OT/ID:
Location:
Date Found:

IMO that would work better than just OT names.

I have a list of hackers on my thread if you all want to look at it.

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Attention PC, I'm sorry if I have to tell you all this, but I'm afraid we just can't rely on trading with players. I've heard other players on PC and other sites were having problems getting hacked pokemon from players who are hackers and so have I. If we can't rely on other players, then we should stop trading or think first before we trade. Trading with your friends and others is fun but trading is not always a good option. So when Pokemon heartgold and soulsilver comes in the US, I suggest that we all start capturing and breeding our own pokemon. Cause sometimes we're just gonna have to get our own pokemon even though it's not easy.
Seriously dude??? You know that every Pokemon isn't obtainable in each game, and that some people can't make it to events, others can't grasp the EV'ing process, others don't have the right tools for breeding, and so on. These are only a few of the numerous reasons why trading is essential to any good trainer.

I mean this is a huge overreaction dude, people get hacked across the net all the time. Firstly, what happens to people on other sites has nothing to dowith PC. Also, if you don't want to trade with anybody because there are hackers out there then go ahead and don't do it, but making a mission to tell everyone else not to is a bit ridiculous. In that same vein, there are thieves out in the real world who would gladly take your possesions at gunpoint, so should we all sta loed in our houses, 'cause getting shot for money actually matters? (extreme I know, but you get the point).

Bottom, don't overreact over a simply resolved trivial matter.
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Seriously dude??? You know that every Pokemon isn't obtainable in each game, and that some people can't make it to events, others can't grasp the EV'ing process, others don't have the right tools for breeding, and so on. These are only a few of the numerous reasons why trading is essential to any good trainer.

I mean this is a huge overreaction dude, people get hacked across the net all the time. Firstly, what happens to people on other sites has nothing to dowith PC. Also, if you don't want to trade with anybody because there are hackers out there then go ahead and don't do it, but making a mission to tell everyone else not to is a bit ridiculous. In that same vein, there are thieves out in the real world who would gladly take your possesions at gunpoint, so should we all sta loed in our houses, 'cause getting shot for money actually matters? (extreme I know, but you get the point).

Bottom, don't overreact over a simply resolved trivial matter.

I understand. But I wasn't saying that we should stop trading. I mean I do like trading just as much as everyone does, but I was just trying to get the people to be careful.
Juupton I do agree completly with Greene on this one...I mean just because you might not like trading doesn't mean everyone else hates it as well...


Also, IMO we shouldn't get permabaned for trading hacks, maybe a months ban or suspend our threads for a certain amount if time. Everyone cant be sure if a legit looking poke they got in a trade is hacked or not, and like blade dad ts only a kids game :/
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Why not just have the hackers Thread locked? If a person is trading hacks lock there Thread and make it so they cant make a new one simple as that...
Seriously though this place is full of hacks RNC the little fairy giveawayer has about 20 hacks in her TGhread that she said she has "checked" hack checks are not 100% reliable and i have even told her about 10 of her pokemon have illegal IV Combinations.... Nothing has been done about hacks on this site so i give up on it theres no point anymore :/
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Juupton I do agree completly with Greene on this one...I mean just because you might not like trading doesn't mean everyone else hates it as well...


Also, IMO we shouldn't get permabaned for trading hacks, maybe a months ban or suspend our threads for a certain amount if time. Everyone cant be sure if a legit looking poke they got in a trade is hacked or not, and like blade dad ts only a kids game :/

I understand and I do agree with what you and greene are saying but I like trading just as much as all of you do, but I'm just saying that we should be careful and be aware of those who hack. Because we all hate hacks, don't we?

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Why not just have the hackers Thread locked? If a person is trading hacks lock there Thread and make it so they cant make a new one simple as that...
Seriously though this place is full of hacks RNC the little fairy giveawayer has about 20 hacks in her TGhread that she said she has "checked" hack checks are not 100% reliable and i have even told her about 10 of her pokemon have illegal IV Combinations.... Nothing has been done about hacks on this site so i give up on it theres no point anymore :/
"Hey mawds, there are hacks here but I will not tell you specifically but I expect you to find them but if you do not find them in 1 hour then I am leaving forever!!111"

What was hacked on her thread, i.e. what species? A shiny Raikou, a Dialga, a what? Although you have explicitly informed her, you could have approached her in a much better light without the insults, e.g. "your thread is full of KARP".

Visitor messages are not a formal method of communication. Although you may indeed have, did you discuss with her via Private Message...? Did you have to post on her profile accusing her...? Did you explicitly address the issue with a mod (although Ursula lacks knowledge about RNG and competitive topics)? As a member, you really do not have the right to take such matters into your own hands.

On another notion, did you consider the possibility of Synchronize being used? I have checked some of my chained shinies, and often, those successfully synchronized had "no possibilities" on X-Act's IV-PID applet. :(

Sorry, but not everyone is as enlightened as you, Chains. Do not give up so easily when I admire your effort to remove hacks. :)

I have more of a problem with scamming, i.e. intentional trading of hacks and not alerting the receiver. As far as I am concerned, RNC does not intentionally trade hacks, and she is trying to learn more about legal.exe and IVs to remove any hacks, as evident in her conversationwith Ninshark, a Secure checker.

FYI Smogon is a source, not God. Same goes to Serebii, Bulbapedia, legal.exe, etc. We are all human and we are doing the best we can. ^_^
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I understand and I do agree with what you and greene are saying but I like trading just as much as all of you do, but I'm just saying that we should be careful and be aware of those who hack. Because we all hate hacks, don't we?
???

But how will we know who is a haker and who isnt without a blacklist
Yes :)
Yes exactly...so I would like to see some sort of list implemented in the near future.
Yes again :)

"Hey mawds, there are hacks here but I will not tell you specifically but I expect you to find them but if you do not find them in 1 hour then I am leaving forever!!111"
Lol not possible too many :/

What was hacked on her thread, i.e. what species? A shiny Raikou, a Dialga, a what? Although you have explicitly informed her, you could have approached her in a much better light without the insults, e.g. "your thread is full of KARP".
Didnt mean to come off as rude but some things were so obvious (Flawless Modest Shiny Kyogre from the 3rd Generation, Yes its not possible to get a Raikou wit has good IV's as the one she has further more its shiny so its hacked :/ And she had a 383 Sp.Atk Vaporeon yes the the first two arent as obvious but the third.... come on use some common sense before trading...... And i did say to her "im trying to help you"


Visitor messages are not a formal method of communication. Although you may indeed have, did you discuss with her via Private Message...? Did you have to post on her profile accusing her...? Did you explicitly address the issue with a mod (although Ursula lacks knowledge about RNG and competitive topics)? As a member, you really do not have the right to take such matters into your own hands.
Not once have i actually contacted her and i havent bothered she doesnt listen to anythign i have to say....

On another notion, did you consider the possibility of Synchronize being used? I have checked some of my chained shinies, and often, those successfully synchronized had "no possibilities" on X-Act's IV-PID applet. :(
Hmmm was this a Normal Pokemon or Legnedary?
Legnedary Pokemo nare the only Pokemon with possible Illegal Iv combinations normal pokemon can have any IV Combination they want
Like....
31/31/31/31/31/31 Impish Dialga is impossible without hacking as it would be illegal IV combination
Because there is no Flawless Impish Spread/Seed

Sorry, but not everyone is as enlightened as you, Chains. Do not give up so easily when I admire your effort to remove hacks. :)
thank you :)

I have more of a problem with scamming, i.e. intentional trading of hacks and not alerting the receiver. As far as I am concerned, RNC does not intentionally trade hacks, and she is trying to learn more about legal.exe and IVs to remove any hacks, as evident in her with Ninshark, a Secure checker.
Yes i understand that but some of the stuff she ahs traded had been so obviously hacked and she should pay more attention to what she trades and as i said before legit exe is not 100% reliable no hack check is

FYI Smogon is a source, not God. Same goes to Serebii, Bulbapedia, legal.exe, etc. We are all human and we are doing the best we can. ^_^
Not once did i mention smogon.....

Hmmm was this a Normal Pokemon or Legnedary?
Legnedary Pokemo nare the only Pokemon with possible Illegal Iv combinations normal pokemon can have any IV Combination they want
Like....
31/31/31/31/31/31 Impish Dialga is impossible without hacking as it would be illegal IV combination
Because there is no Flawless Impish Spread/Seed
IIRC Syncronizing lets you get any IV combo possible, even on legends.

Might be wrong, haven't did it since I discovered RNG...