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Old December 7th, 2009 (3:34 PM).
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i need to make a choise about my Toxicroaks. i have 2 of them and im wondering which is better. they are both at lv 50. one is RNG shiny and one isnt.

Toxicroak 1:

Hasty nature
hp - 168
atk - 124
def - 64
s atk - 114
s def - 85
speed - 113

Toxicroak 2:

Adamant nature
hp - 146
atk - 135
def - 83
s atk - 103
s def - 98
speed - 109

i need your opinion on what stats are more important to have
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Old December 7th, 2009 (3:43 PM).
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I can see how its hard to choose which one...
I'm no expert but if I was to choose I'd choose Toxicroak 2: mainly because of its Attack and Defense stats.
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Old December 7th, 2009 (3:47 PM).
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I always keep adamant over everything.
Its up to you though ;)
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Old December 7th, 2009 (4:00 PM).
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I can see how its hard to choose which one...
I'm no expert but if I was to choose I'd choose Toxicroak 2: mainly because of its Attack and Defense stats.
The thing is Toxicroak 2 is shiny, and his shiny sprite isnt as good as his normal sprite in my opinion ( i dont like his pink lips etc...)
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Old December 7th, 2009 (4:06 PM).
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I see... well wouldn't you rather have a better Toxicroak in stats then a better Toxicroak in appearance?
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Old December 7th, 2009 (4:24 PM).
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to be honest not really, but if the second Toxicroak is so much better than the 1st...
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Old December 7th, 2009 (5:57 PM).
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Why don't you just breed more until you get one with the nature you want most? That's what I usually do.
Then after I do that I put the extra Pokemon I bred up for trade on GTS and get more new Pokes for it.
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Old December 7th, 2009 (6:44 PM).
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Really for in-game play it doesnt matter which one you use. If you like the normal sprite more then the other use that one.

If its competitve though you can EV train both to be good but generaly adamant is a better choice for competition.
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Old December 7th, 2009 (7:15 PM).
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Why don't you just breed more until you get one with the nature you want most? That's what I usually do.
Then after I do that I put the extra Pokemon I bred up for trade on GTS and get more new Pokes for it.
ill try that if my next idea fails... does anyone know how to edit D/P sprites? im trying to replace my current toxicroaks sprites with a recolored one that are the same colors as the anime.
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Old December 7th, 2009 (8:09 PM).
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If its an in game toxicroak, use toxicroak number two.
If it is a toxicroak for competitive battling, i would still use the second one,
but i would EV it in a certain way. If you like the shiny one, EV it in its core stats. :)
hope this helps
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Old December 7th, 2009 (8:51 PM).
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I would choose the second one.
The main stats you want for a successful competitive toxicroak are attack and speed.
You CAN build on its special attack rather than its attack and get a good move set for it, but it still isnt going to be quite as powerful as if you used its higher base attack.
the only thing that the first one has on the second one in terms of majorly useful stats is hp.
the 4 point difference in speed isnt influential enough to dismiss an 11 attack advantage. build your EVs around the second ones speed and attack.
if you want to use it competitively i would recommend using berries to get rid of the other EVs its been given through normal use to do so.
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Old December 7th, 2009 (8:55 PM).
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The question is one I can only answer if I know you.

But nobody here knows you as well as yourself.

Would you prefer a pokemon you like more, or a pokemon that is stronger?

if the former, #1, if the latter, #2.

If I were you I would go with #1.
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Old December 7th, 2009 (9:16 PM).
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Mmm, i rather have a pokemon that i like and train it to their limits, if you like shiny toxi train him, if not, search for one you like to do (especifically nature, IV´s, EV´s, etc) but don´t forget to train the one you like in all aspects of the pkmn not only in strength...
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Old December 8th, 2009 (12:02 AM).
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OK i have made my choice, im sticking with my first Toxicroak mainly for its large hp and speed stat. i might try and breed an adamant one tonight.

AND ALSO!!!!!

i succeeded in editing its sprite to look like Saturn's Toxicroak!!!

it looks epic now, if you want the sprites pm me and ill send them to you.

i used CodeBrain's tutorial, you can find it in the documents and tutorials section if your interested :)
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