I'll let that one die. Page 2

Started by beauty. proletariat December 14th, 2009 11:01 PM
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Yeah. Me too man. Didn't see your post above mine. Glad someone else agrees with me.

And woah woah woah, hey hey hey, why does it bother you lot so much that someone would say that? Its part of the question, and lets be honest, if the person was drop dead gorgeous then yeah, you would want to save them a hell of a lot more. Don't hate us 'cause we're honest.
So you would let someone die based on their appearance? And you wonder why I'm bothered by this? This is a person we're talking about here; someone who experiences joy and sorrow, someone who has friends and family and loves and is loved in return... and your decision to let them live or die hinges on what they look like? I don't understand how anyone could fail to see how this is abhorrent.

If you really don't get it, I won't even bother; I suppose it's like trying to describe color to the colorblind.
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but if we're dumb enough to keep that rate up
Well, if you are going to place the responsibility of preserving our global ecosystem upon the shoulders of humans alone, one would assume you have already allowed that we have enough intelligence to be trusted with that task in the first place.

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It's probably the fact that I've never had a pet more, ah, "advanced" than a fish but I don't value an animal's life over a human's and I really have no connection with animals whatsoever. I'm all for treating animals humanely and against animal abuse, but I've just never understood how some people can see animals to be on par with or above humans. It's just a differing opinion (and I'm pretty sure my view on the matter likely can't be changed). Animals can be great but I don't see how saving one's life could be on par with saving a human's life.

As for appearances... what would that have to do with anything? It'd be far more interesting to ask about traits, and even then, it's still no question at all about saving the human life over the animal's. I think you mentioned the animal being endangered/nearly extinct in this section of the question so I assume we'll know if that's the case. Even then, I'm pretty sure my answer stays the same but that's really the only thing that would make me stop and think for a moment before making my decision.


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I would assume that we can only save ONE. So it seems I have no choice but to save the human. It's simply because if that human is a relative of yours and if you let him/her die, then your conscience will haunt you forever.


Unless that person is a pain in the ass in your entire life...

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So you would let someone die based on their appearance? And you wonder why I'm bothered by this? This is a person we're talking about here; someone who experiences joy and sorrow, someone who has friends and family and loves and is loved in return... and your decision to let them live or die hinges on what they look like? I don't understand how anyone could fail to see how this is abhorrent.

If you really don't get it, I won't even bother; I suppose it's like trying to describe color to the colorblind.
Did you not read my first post?
"I'm shallow, get over it"

And yeah, what I said before, I know for a fact that some, not all, people are lying a little here. I'm not saying that you're like me and will let them die because they're ugly, but apperance does change things very slightly for most people. Most people would want to save someone more, even if they were going to save them anyway, if they were very pretty.
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And yeah, what I said before, I know for a fact that some, not all, people are lying a little here. I'm not saying that you're like me and will let them die because they're ugly, but apperance does change things very slightly for most people. Most people would want to save someone more, even if they were going to save them anyway, if they were very pretty.
I think you are putting on a cynical/superficial front in efforts to seek attention.

Like Spearow, I would flip a coin. I base one's "worth" (for lack of better word) on consciousness and will to live, and for all I know I could be choosing between the life of an elephant and the life of a human in a vegetative state; or between the life of a fish and the life of a happy, healthy human.

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I think you are putting on a cynical/superficial front in efforts to seek attention.
Nah. Not interested in attention, just interesting in getting in an argument while I'm still angry.

I don't see why everyone is getting so worked up about what was said, it's someones opinion, its not like 1) I'll ever be in that situation, and 2) I'm forcing you to see it my way. I was only explaining my point, any attention after that is awesome, but as I said, not doing for attention. I have better ways of getting attention than annoying people like you lot with my own opinion.
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Eh, it's just Anxiety's opinion so we should just leave it like that. More concerns about it should be in private (though it's just me).

As for me, it'll depend on a lot of factors. How much I know the person and animal, their injuries and if they'll be able to be saved, how well they treated me, etc. I may not be a huge animal activist to be honest, but I believe both beings deserve thoughts on how should deserve to live if you're under that situation.

I don't really like the appearance question because traits and appearance don't go together, like others have said. I know someone mentioned about higher power. That may be true, but I would judge the leaders on how good they are and their personality. So yeah, I would actually base on traits than on appearance.
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twocows

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Nah. Not interested in attention, just interesting in getting in an argument while I'm still angry.

I don't see why everyone is getting so worked up about what was said, it's someones opinion, its not like 1) I'll ever be in that situation, and 2) I'm forcing you to see it my way. I was only explaining my point, any attention after that is awesome, but as I said, not doing for attention. I have better ways of getting attention than annoying people like you lot with my own opinion.
It's just a bit disappointing to see so many people say "well, I'd let a person die based on their appearances." That's all.
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...its not like I'll ever be in that situation...
You really think it won't happen? Interesting, to say the very least.

Such things would depend on the situation in which I'm placed (as many other people have said while comparing differences), but as a general rule, human>animal, regardless of looks.

When I first saw the topic, my thoughts immediately went to whether or not to let a thread die. Yes, there have been those. ><
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In a heartbeat, no matter what they look like or who they are, I would save a human life over an animal life. It's an obvious choice to me, and I don't see how I could go on living if I made a different decision. Humans are more important than animals, no matter how you look at it. We feel and think. Animals survive on instincts. It's just so different, I don't understand why anybody would consider saving a creature over a fellow human being. I like animals, don't get me wrong, but when it comes down to it, their lives are insignificant in comparison.

Secondly, appearance would not affect my decision. I don't judge superficially. A person is a person no matter what. Clothes or hairstyles or skin don't determine what's on the inside. Even if someone is drop dead gorgeous, they can be a jerk, and even if someone is more homely, they can be truly sweet individuals. Even if that person I was saving WAS a jerk, they don't deserve death. I would never condemn someone to that fate based on superficial standards.

Anyway, the main point is, no matter what they looked like or what kind of a person they had decided to be, I'd save the person.

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You really think it won't happen?
You really think I'll be put in the situation of just me, on my own, and I have to save either the Animal or Person, and I'll have no connection to the Animal or Person, and they'll both be in the exact same state? Stupid, to say the least.
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Appearance would probably have a slight effect on my decision, but I'd pick the one I have closer relation to nonetheless. Normally, that'd mean the human unless the animal was my pet or something.
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You really think I'll be put in the situation of just me, on my own, and I have to save either the Animal or Person, and I'll have no connection to the Animal or Person, and they'll both be in the exact same state? Stupid, to say the least.
Did I say anything about the condition of said beings? Did you?

Although, it wasn't really your reply that interested me, it was more that you would actually say that it essentially could not happen to you. As if you were immune to the varied experiences of existence. Do you think you could get your arm broken by a small meteorite crashing through your ceiling? The answer would be probably be no, especially if this were a more out-of-the-blue question. But it's happened. What's stupid is the mindset that it won't happen to you.

I'll probably not post again in this thread, it's a bit boring to me.
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