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View Poll Results: Who'd win in a fight and who's better overall?
Dialga would win and is better overall. 56 53%
Dialga would win but Palkia is better overall. 14 13%
Palkia would win and is better overall. 15 14%
Palkia would win but Dialga is better overall. 6 6%
Help, I can't decide... 15 14%
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Old January 30th, 2010 (1:04 PM).
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Quite frankly I am sick of Dialga. Palkia is stronger type matching wise and looks much cooler than Dialga.
THANK YOU. Dialga appears in all three of the D/P/PT movies, while Palkia only appears in two. Dialga is the final boss of the second Mystery Dungeon games. Palkia is a side-boss. Dialga got an entire manga dedicated to itself (Pokemon DP; great series). From what I've read, Palkia doesn't even get a mention. You have to suspend disbelief with this, though; if time had no space, and vice versa, the universe would collapse.
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Old January 30th, 2010 (1:23 PM).
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Dialga all the way, it looks cool has better IVs and Is Stell/Dragon for cyrin out loud, come on, PALKIA sucks
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Old January 30th, 2010 (1:37 PM).
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OMg , I always loved Palkia even though I knew Dialga was better ^^ well what can I do in stats ...?

So it goes like "Dialga would win but I love Palkia more ...." . Like that ? :3
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Old January 30th, 2010 (1:43 PM).
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You guys forgot to mention Giratina, who who easily beat Palkia but may have problems with Dialga....
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Old January 30th, 2010 (1:46 PM).
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i think dialga would win cause i don't have any experience about palkia. still i really love dragon/water type, one of the kind. :D
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Tough call. Dialga is neutral against Dragon-type moves while Palkia is weak against them. Then again, Spacial Rend is a better attack than Roar of Time and Palkia can fall back on Aura Sphere and Earth Power while Dragon really is Palkia's only type weakness.

I guess, if Roar of Time is a OHKO, then Dialga; otherwise Palkia (the recharge turn will come back to bite Dialga).
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Old January 30th, 2010 (3:55 PM).
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Dialga would win, but Palkia is cooler. Palkia can't get a STAB super effective on Dialga, but Dialga can. Palkia is faster though, so maybe spacial rend can kill it when you put in the critical hit ratio.
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hmmm, Im going to choose Dialga, just because it doesnt look as funny as Palkia does xDD
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Dialga would win due to its Steel trait, but Palkia is better overall.
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Dialga would surely win! ^_^
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Old January 31st, 2010 (7:07 AM).
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First off, if you're talking about the game battle then it really only matters about the circumstances. If both pokemon are level one hundred, that means that Palkia gets Earth Power which is super effective against Dialga, however Palkia's speed is about 241-328 where as Dialga's speed is 223-306. Palkia is faster then Dialga so it will really all depend if Earth Power will make Dialga faint or not. If it doesn't, then most likely Dialga will win with Roar of Time. If it does, well Palkia will win. So it really all depends on the speed and the moves Palkia and Dialga have.

The stats are about equal;

Palkia:
HP: 353-384
Attack: 277-372
Defense: 241-328
Sp Attack: 331-438
Speed: 241-328
Sp Defense: 277-372

Dialga:
HP: 373-404
Attack: 277-372
Defense: 277-372
Sp Attack: 331-438
Speed: 223-306
Sp Defense: 241-328

But I like Palkia's moves better. xD

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Dialga would win and is better overall.
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Old February 2nd, 2010 (2:15 AM).
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I hope that Dialga win, He's stronger than palkia
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Old February 2nd, 2010 (4:10 AM).
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Considering they represent space and time, they shouldn't be fighting at all, but rather working together as one and the same (unlike Groudon and Kyogre).

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However, if they were to get into some quarrel, I think Dialga would have the upper hand - and this is why: If you bend space, you still would need to travel across point A to point B to an observer - even though it would be extremely fast depending on how you bent it, it still is a definite path. However, if you stop time completely - thus the observer is unable to actually determine your actual path because it is actually at several places at the same period of time - you would effectively teleport without having a definite path. This makes Palkia always slower than Dialga, meaning that Dialga can more readily dodge Palkia's attacks and Palkia has more difficulty dodging Dialga's.

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Palkia's path, speed and acceleration can be determined because it is differentiable - it is an actual path. Dialga's path is non-continuous (because it can stop time) and it can change its position instantaneously. To calculate Dialga's speed when it changes position when it stops time would be dividing by zero, as shown in the example below:

If Dialga teleports 10 meters, its speed would be distance/time. Since it stops time, no time actually passes to an observer when it travels - thus it's speed would be 10/0, which does not exist (actually it's speed would be infinite, because as the it's time gets shorter and shorter the speed gets faster and faster (the limit of 10/0 as X approaches 0 is infinity). Infinity isn't actually a number though so it doesn't really matter). How is Palkia supposed to hit something moving at an infinite speed?

Palkia changes distance, Dialga changes time. Because of this, Dialga has a huge advantage as explained above.

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I do agree with that version. I mean, like others said, Dialga controls time, and if it can stop time, then I don't know what could Palkia do against that. o:
Plus, maybe Palkia would send Dialga in an other "dimension" (or at least he'd try), but then again, Dialga would come back using time's power ?

"Palkia changes distance, Dialga changes time."

I guess time is a real advantage that only Dialga has, plus (stat talking) it's not weak against dragon type moves.

Dialga win, in my opinion xD
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Old February 3rd, 2010 (4:04 PM).
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I think that Dialga would win because Palkia's Water type is weaker to Dialga's Steel type. Woot! Go Dialga!
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Old February 3rd, 2010 (7:52 PM).
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Palkia would win it does not have to recharge after special rend and im pretty sure two hits of that would do they trick
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Old February 3rd, 2010 (8:07 PM).
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If Pokemon Revolution actually had a CPU vs CPU option like the "Stadium" games had, I'm sure several simulations could give us the answer...

I miss you CPU vs CPU Pokemon battles...

In my opinion though, Dialga seems to be better than Palkia in most situations gamewise.
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Old February 3rd, 2010 (8:45 PM).
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Dialga would win and is better overall,but if you give me youre palkia,i can make it able to defeat dialga, but.... i could just create either to kicks the others ass.... i rock
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Old February 4th, 2010 (11:05 PM).
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Dialga would win, it's Steel typing would make most of Palkia's moves be just normally effective, including Dragon-type moves. But Dialga's STAB Roar of time would be supereffective against Palkia, plus it's 150 Base power.

Too bad because I like Palkia. :(
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Old February 4th, 2010 (11:07 PM).
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Dialga flaws Palkia due to the type disadvantage. Dragon/Steel > Dragon/Water. I thought this was already eshtablished?
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Old February 5th, 2010 (2:52 AM).
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Palkia looks better and in reality, thats what truly matters... haha. But the obvious is that in competitive battles Dialga is superior.
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