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Old January 1st, 2010 (6:34 PM).
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Points to note of in the scrapbox.
1st. Many of it are spams, incomplete or even just an idea.
2nd. Most of the hacks in the scrapbox does not show significant amount of progress.
3rd. Only a few hacks outshine the others. NOTE THAT I SAY A FEW.
4th. Taking down the SCRAPBOX FORUM is a good idea.
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Old January 1st, 2010 (6:47 PM).
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Why can't you make threads in Progressing Hacks atm either? D=
This totally kills my new-thread-on-New-Year's plan.. =[
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Old January 1st, 2010 (7:41 PM). Edited January 1st, 2010 by Perri Lightfoot.
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The Scrapbox was a good idea in theory...but if there's one thing I know about human nature, it's that things hardly ever work out the way we think they will "in theory." Although I enjoyed reviewing here, if it's time for this place to go, than it's time for it to go. ^^' (The audience in Progressing Hacks would better appreciate getting a big long review out of the blue, anyway XD ) The few diamonds in the rough will do just as well in Progressing Hacks (and probably could have been posted there in the first place with a little more work before a thread was started; again making the Scrapbox redundant - the dedicated people whose hacks stand out would get into Progressing Hacks soon enough anyway), and we'll be rid of a whole boatload of spam, which is always a blessing XD Also, there's already a thread for "storyline help and advice," in the main forum, so ideas could simply be posted there rather than here XD

Also, when the Scrapbox is removed, will all posts we made in it vanish along with it, or will our postcounts and "find all posts written by this member" section remain intact? I don't particularly care about postcount, but if all the reviews I wrote are going to vanish, I'd like to save a few of them for my own personal reference. ^^'
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Old January 1st, 2010 (8:32 PM).
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Guess what? If you were actually working on your hack actively you'd have it ready long before February. If you can't even get a basic project before then, you've never really been committed to your hack.

edit: Progressing Hacks fixed. I made an error.

yea but then it wouldn't be as good now would it??? I always thought that the prog hacks section had a high standard seeing as some of the greatest hacks ever are still in there...But then again u do carry a point, that is plenty of time to get it to prog hacks :) But i still like the scrapbox...:(
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yea but then it wouldn't be as good now would it??? I always thought that the prog hacks section had a high standard seeing as some of the greatest hacks ever are still in there...But then again u do carry a point, that is plenty of time to get it to prog hacks :) But i still like the scrapbox...:(
What are you blabbering about? You've just joined last November and you haven't seen most of the scrapbox. I remember most times during October lots and lots of spam threads in the Scrapbox. Maybe you don't want the scrapbox to go away because your thread is in there? Well, my thread is in there too, you know.

Still, I think that the staff did the right decision.
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What are you blabbering about? You've just joined last November and you haven't seen most of the scrapbox. I remember most times during October lots and lots of spam threads in the Scrapbox. Maybe you don't want the scrapbox to go away because your thread is in there? Well, my thread is in there too, you know.

Still, I think that the staff did the right decision.

what does the join date gotta do with it?, and yes i have seen alot of the scrapbox....i've skimmed through the first 10 pages many times... And if ur complaining about some random spam that happened in october...how valid is you point? And yes I don't want it to go cause my thread along with a few others are there...and cause I like that section :) it's the best place to recieve criticism :)
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Aww...:(
I don't want it to go...
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Well, I better save my hack, before it disappears...
Goodbye, Scrapbox...:'(
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Old January 1st, 2010 (11:21 PM).
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yea but then it wouldn't be as good now would it??? I always thought that the prog hacks section had a high standard seeing as some of the greatest hacks ever are still in there...But then again u do carry a point, that is plenty of time to get it to prog hacks :) But i still like the scrapbox...:(
It's not a high standard. All you need is a basic story or introduction and like, 4 screenshots. That's really not a lot to ask.
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Old January 2nd, 2010 (12:50 AM).
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This is good idea Anthony.
I agree with the posters above and as some of them I have a question where will useful threads (like help ones) go?
Will they be moved just to ROM hacking section instead of its sub-sections?
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Old January 2nd, 2010 (11:39 AM).
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ummm, it's not dead YET so y the tombstone? lol
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Old January 2nd, 2010 (2:06 PM).
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This is great! Ever since the Scrapbox subforum had been made, I knew it wouldn't work out. I mean, at first it was just a couple of small ideas that were actually worth reading, but then all of the threads got out of hand, and now there are a whole bunch of threads that look the same in most aspects. And what happens to all of these hacks? They're quit, abandoned, closed, and live in the depths of the Scrapbox subforum forever.

Thanks for doing this, guys. Best present ever. :3
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Old January 2nd, 2010 (2:11 PM).
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Goodbye, forever, Scrapbox...:'(
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Woohoo now well have noobs who make their hack like this in the progressing hacks! [/sarcasm]

But seriously? I love the idea of taking this junker down. But since it has become a necessity from some here to post ALL their ideas here without any real talent in hacking and have not even started it. The next thing is going to be everyone doing this... THEN they will start a hack, make one (half ass) map and get 4 screens on it. MAYBE elaborate a bit on the story and features. Make 1 or 2 crappy user bars and vwala once more we have these pestering hacks on the site. If so I hope the moderators step up and realize this to not accept some hacks which look like they are going nowhere. If they really are making a well worth hack then why are people so upset of this place going to the dumps.

I say end the scrapbox but step up moderation in thread acceptance!

Thanks for readin mah postzzzz
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Old January 2nd, 2010 (2:57 PM).
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Um, me and Christos aren't going to delete threads that don't look they're going somewhere. You know why? Because they don't break any rules. That's why!
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well, i guess this is goodbye my dear friend. everyday i always looked forward to come and see what was in here, thee are some really great ideas, and its sad to see them go.
but its your choices not mine.
so i decided that your decision was right, bye scrapbox, we'll miss u.

a month left..
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Eh, I don't mind so much; the scrapbox was turning into a scrapheap rather than an idea board. =\

Only problem is, all you need is four crappy screenshots and you can infiltrate into the Progressing Hacks zone. Four screens anyone can manage in a matter of minutes. D=
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Eh, I don't mind so much; the scrapbox was turning into a scrapheap rather than an idea board. =\

Only problem is, all you need is four crappy screenshots and you can infiltrate into the Progressing Hacks zone. Four screens anyone can manage in a matter of minutes. D=
Exactly!
Hence the forth coming of the progressing hacks downfall until we only have rooms for hack which will fall in the realm of the showcase. OK that was a bit extreme but really quality should be another aspect in which threads can make it up to the prog. hacks and showcase. Anyways I just am glad we are finally scrapping the scrapbox!
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You do realise this is preventable, correct?
WHAT YOU TELL ME NOW!!!! lol i had my mind made up :P

kk, reasons I want to prevent this from happening:

PC. has always been a inviting site even for newcomers to share their ideas and let them be rated by other more experienced or beginning trainers. This also allows them to organise a team and ect.

If we do not have a scrapbox then most hacks in which the hacker( who cannot script) cannot go anywhere. IE: a spriter and a mapper would be able to change alot...but in the end they would not be able to produce the 5 screenshots of ingame play(which i think you should have some text scripts in there)

If you keep the scrapbox it will save you the time which would otherwise be used on deleting it, recieving MULTIPLE apllications for random hacks trying to get in the prog hacks section, Organising and moving the helpthreads,

If you let the scrapbox go, some really good hacks ie. ash's quest will be deleted along side it :(

Hacks that are rushing to meet the deadline will most probably seem very rushed when you play em

Cause I'm asking you polietly : Please don't delete the scrapbox :)

And i like the scrapbox :)

If you want more PM me and i'll give u :)
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You do realise this is preventable, correct?
Yes, yes we do, but that's not the point.
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I agree with 558122_DG, there are a lot of good hacks in there and they will all end up being very rushed and no good, so please, don't shut down the scrapbox.
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I agree with 558122_DG, there are a lot of good hacks in there and they will all end up being very rushed and no good, so please, don't shut down the scrapbox.
Name some "pretty good" hacks...
I can deal with ideas from well known hackers whom you can trust more being released from. like Darthratron's thread. But really do you need to post your hack until you have the basics for the progressing hacks? What I can say is take your time and count on quality. This place has diminished that a bit.
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How about if it was required that the creator of a thread hust have 20 or so comments?

But as ninja caterpie said it's only gonna take at most an hour to provide 5 screens of ingame play... but then wouldn't there be random hacks that are no good crowding the Prog hacks zone? the home of alot of great hacks? Also wouldn't that mean that moderators would have to scan through all that extra stuff??? and possibly all the more spam/off topic/ randomness?
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How about if it was required that the creator of a thread hust have 20 or so comments?

But as ninja caterpie said it's only gonna take at most an hour to provide 5 screens of ingame play... but then wouldn't there be random hacks that are no good crowding the Prog hacks zone? the home of alot of great hacks? Also wouldn't that mean that moderators would have to scan through all that extra stuff??? and possibly all the more spam/off topic/ randomness?
I don't really mind the scrapbox closing down either but one thing is sure it'll be hard to find good hacks in progressing hacks again then eventually that place will be shut and they hacks showcase everybody will just get 10 screenshots and like an alpha with a crappy hack and then eventually we probally might have to restart all the other boards but that'll be a long time ahead of us
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