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Old January 29th, 2010 (11:28 AM).
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You said it yourself, n00by spammers. That's the reason they're taking down scrapbox.
Fully agree. I might PM to ask them to close this dump down now :)
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Old January 29th, 2010 (11:31 AM).
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Fully agree. I might PM to ask them to close this dump down now :)
Surely you can see some BAD things about this too. It isn't just a dump, loads of ideas grew and are still growing. So, some ideas in here need to be moved up, and have time to be moved up. If you REALLY wanted rid, be patient.
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Old January 29th, 2010 (2:37 PM).
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If an idea deserves to be moved up, it will, people shouldn't even start a thread without having sufficient progress done.
Whenever I get around to actually making a hack of my own, I won't release it until it's like half done, betas are annoying IMO, why play a little and work a little when you can just sit down, stop being a baby, and do the work you want to do! It's isn't fun if you have people demanding for a new release every 10 seconds.
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Old January 29th, 2010 (6:31 PM).
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If an idea deserves to be moved up, it will, people shouldn't even start a thread without having sufficient progress done.
Whenever I get around to actually making a hack of my own, I won't release it until it's like half done, betas are annoying IMO, why play a little and work a little when you can just sit down, stop being a baby, and do the work you want to do! It's isn't fun if you have people demanding for a new release every 10 seconds.
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Why shouldn't they start a thread? I'd they're new to hacking and want to get their idea out then they should be able to. And posting a thread that isn't about a complete hack is begging people to ask for releases so the thread creator has to be ready for that. I agree that playing betas is a stupid idea unless you're looking for errors. It's a shame that we have to see a place with such promise get deleted.
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That is the problem, there is little to no promise from the scrap-box. A LARGE portion of hackers in this age of ROM hacking has degenerated, most of the things in the scrap-box see little to no improvement over the course of their life-span. Eventually the thread will just end up closed and take up space on the server. Why deal with that when it can just be emptied out? That, and it is being used for purposes not-intended, it's turned into a junkyard, Just like how reputation was taken out as well, cause it wasn't being used properly.
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Old January 30th, 2010 (5:15 AM).
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That is the problem, there is little to no promise from the scrap-box. A LARGE portion of hackers in this age of ROM hacking has degenerated, most of the things in the scrap-box see little to no improvement over the course of their life-span. Eventually the thread will just end up closed and take up space on the server. Why deal with that when it can just be emptied out? That, and it is being used for purposes not-intended, it's turned into a junkyard, Just like how reputation was taken out as well, cause it wasn't being used properly.

But what about my earlier comments? I know it's to late to change the staffs' mind but t makes more sense to dump the threads and keep the scrapbox. Then they could make rules and reform the area so it can still be useful. And the lack of improvement is alright because after the hack fails the hacker can decide whether or not they want to continue hacking.
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Old January 30th, 2010 (3:10 PM).
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Well, if the hacker want's to keep hacking, they can just either move their thread, or have it be dumped, and continue on working, then when they have enough to get into "Progressing Hacks" then the can post a new thread there.
The thing is, the scrapbox ha turned into a dump, and that minuscule amount of hacks that actually mean something, can just be continued without a thread. Then when it is good enough for progressing hacks, they post it there.
(You don't need a thread to hack)
It can be like a test, to see if the people in the scrapbox actually care enough to keep hacking, or if their thread was going to turn out into junk in the end.
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Old January 30th, 2010 (4:19 PM).
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Scrapbox is going tomorrow or day after that i feel happy and sad at the same time t_t i'll sort of miss you scrapbox
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Old January 30th, 2010 (5:03 PM).
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Well, if the hacker want's to keep hacking, they can just either move their thread, or have it be dumped, and continue on working, then when they have enough to get into "Progressing Hacks" then the can post a new thread there.
The thing is, the scrapbox ha turned into a dump, and that minuscule amount of hacks that actually mean something, can just be continued without a thread. Then when it is good enough for progressing hacks, they post it there.
(You don't need a thread to hack)
It can be like a test, to see if the people in the scrapbox actually care enough to keep hacking, or if their thread was going to turn out into junk in the end.
I understand but the failures can help a hacker decide if they want to continue or not. When my first hack failed I did a lot of thinking and decided that I did want to commit myself to learning how to hack. Had the scrapbox not been there I don't know if I would still be here. It's worth keeping even if only one of ten hackers that post there can learn from failure like I did.
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Old January 30th, 2010 (5:24 PM).
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If an idea deserves to be moved up, it will, people shouldn't even start a thread without having sufficient progress done.
Whenever I get around to actually making a hack of my own, I won't release it until it's like half done, betas are annoying IMO, why play a little and work a little when you can just sit down, stop being a baby, and do the work you want to do! It's isn't fun if you have people demanding for a new release every 10 seconds.
*cough*Zel*cough*
^Th-th-th-this :3
So many hackers would be a heck of a lot better off if they did the work before even hinting of their idea to the public.
...well, ok, my sig is of my hack, which I still don't plan to release for a while- but isn't it better to have a decently lengthy release, if you really must release a preview before the final cut?
Anyway, back on topic: @the above person's suggestion to keep the Scrapbox and just empty it... I'm intrigued. It certainly would be more effective if they changed the rules- well, no, reinstated might be appropriate here? Although what's to be done will be done, so no real point in "coulds" or "ifs", eh?
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FINALLY! Now I don't have to here 12 year olds saying "I NEEDZ HELPZ!" or "I CAN'T DO THIS!!!" all the time. I approve of this
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FINALLY! Now I don't have to here 12 year olds saying "I NEEDZ HELPZ!" or "I CAN'T DO THIS!!!" all the time. I approve of this
Ugh... that's not true at all not all of us 12/11 year olds say stuff like that take

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Old January 30th, 2010 (8:48 PM).
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Only one thing I can say to this.
ABOUT TIME.
Honestly, this area needs three moderators mainly because of the scrapbox.
It was an unnecessarily large cesspool of stupid in there.

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Ugh... that's not true at all not all of us 12/11 year olds say stuff like that take

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No he isn't. He's a thirty year old ceiling cat worshiper.
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Old January 31st, 2010 (1:15 AM).
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I think thread approval and stricter rules in the Scrapbox would have been a better solution. Although if I had my way every forum at PC would have thread approval (and post approval while we're at it), so maybe I'm just a crazy nazi.

This is probably for the best though. It'll be interesting to see what impact this'll have on the other two forums.
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Old January 31st, 2010 (1:27 AM).
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No he isn't. He's a thirty year old ceiling cat worshiper.
Damn, you found out.

I wish I was modded earlier so I could have an input on what happens. Not that that'd change the decision, but meh.

I really hate these stereotypes on eleven/twelve year olds. Sure, a majority of them are pretty immature (i.e. me), but some actually have brains.

One day to go, eh?
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I'm going to go ahead and close this now. Let you stew on your own thoughts for the last twenty four hours.

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