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Old February 3rd, 2010 (7:51 AM).
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Well, this has saved me some time and money. I was going to buy an American Soul Silver to play the game corner, but I guess I'll stick to my Spanish Heart Gold.

And I must be the only guy to be happy around here, because I was expecting the soul-crushing "OMG there are some coins left in the machine let's steal them :D". Anything is better than what we got in Platinum.
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I just hope you can get coins just as easily as using the slots. The EU Platinum sounded like a nightmare.

I understand that the slots simulate gambling. I know this. But do they really think that kids are saying "LoLZ IMAH GO gAMbul in ReAl lYFE." Seriously? People have gambling problems because of their own tendencies. It's like when people blame violent movies and video games for real life violence; why blame the game or movie? The person is the one with issues.

Whatever. At least we have something in its place.
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I just hope you can get coins just as easily as using the slots. The EU Platinum sounded like a nightmare.

I understand that the slots simulate gambling. I know this. But do they really think that kids are saying "LoLZ IMAH GO gAMbul in ReAl lYFE." Seriously? People have gambling problems because of their own tendencies. It's like when people blame violent movies and video games for real life violence; why blame the game or movie? The person is the one with issues.

Whatever. At least we have something in its place.
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Old February 3rd, 2010 (9:40 PM).
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All annoyed joking beside, the premisses of these censorship things are:

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I understand that the slots simulate gambling. I know this. But do they really think that kids are saying "LoLZ IMAH GO gAMbul in ReAl lYFE." Seriously? People have gambling problems because of their own tendencies.
They're trying to stop people from gambling so that they won't get addicted in the first place. When gambling appears in kids' favourite video games, it's portraying gambling as something positive. It also gives an artifically inflated chance of winning. Gambling in video games would be extremely boring if it used real world odds, because it would literally just be one big money pit.

Keep in mind gambling was made as a way for governments to collect extra 'taxes' from their populations without them properly realising it.

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It's like when people blame violent movies and video games for real life violence; why blame the game or movie? The person is the one with issues.
It's suppose to be that it makes violence and killing seem less taboo to young kids, who are still learning about the world they're living in.

I'm not saying I agree with these, but that's the idea.
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Old February 5th, 2010 (7:24 AM).
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Nice video. And yeah, because everywhere (except Japan, obviously XD) has it based off the English version.
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Wait, what's that? It looks the same? Well, on the inside…


Good God that is horrible. I mean seriously. They made it way too bright and cheery. Couldn't they have at least made it the same, just with the voltorb flip? WHY DID THEY HAVE TO RUIN EVERYTHING!?!
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Place the blame, folks.
But does anyone ACTUALLY care? I only really used the Game Corner to get a Dratini in the early games, and even then I just bought tons of coins. The slots were never fun, and barely any benefit. They served a miniscule purpose in the original Generation, with the Rocket Hideout, but otherwise they could disappear and I wouldn't even notice.
But hold on... What about the Lottery?!?
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Old February 5th, 2010 (4:42 PM). Edited February 5th, 2010 by demonmike.
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Place the blame, folks.
But does anyone ACTUALLY care? I only really used the Game Corner to get a Dratini in the early games, and even then I just bought tons of coins. The slots were never fun, and barely any benefit. They served a miniscule purpose in the original Generation, with the Rocket Hideout, but otherwise they could disappear and I wouldn't even notice.
But hold on... What about the Lottery?!?
That image for those who dont know is what appears on the European releases for the gambling rating (self explanatory), what isnt commonly known but stated many times earlier for those who've rushed through the topic is that as soon as you have that image on your game rating, it instantly becomes 12+ no exceptions now.

Lottery will remain, as no cost/risk is subject to the player, its free to enter and such.

EDIT: Just watched the video, thanks for sharing Hiroshi!

Well, it would seem not only is it mine sweeper, its easy game mine sweeper. Feeling even more cheated now, but reassured at the same time that its looking pretty sound in its payout. No choice but to welcome it, although it was obvious it was going to need a redesign in the actual game corner, it doesnt fit very well, considering the exterior look of the building conflicts with the interiors theme. But now I'm just nit picking.
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In the video, it looks as if the number next to the Voltorb at the end of the rows and columns correspond to how many Voltorb are in that row or column. If the row has 0 next to a Voltorb, click all the ones in that row. It won't have a Voltorb in that row.
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Did he seriously only get 5 coins from all that? Oi... European Platinum gains, here we come...

It looks like the demon child of Minesweeper and Sudoku.
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YES! I'm actually good at Minesweeper, now I DON'T have to buy coins and use my money on better things, like dolls. :P But seriously, I don't really care. The only time the game corner is useful was in FRLG and RBYG for Porygon. And that's it.
EDIT: From what I can see in the video, it just gives off the number of Voltorb and the number of points you can get in each column/row. It's basically like PicrossDS, or its many other names, I think it's called "Tsunami" or something.
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Old February 6th, 2010 (10:37 AM). Edited February 6th, 2010 by demonmike.
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Did he seriously only get 5 coins from all that? Oi... European Platinum gains, here we come...

It looks like the demon child of Minesweeper and Sudoku.
5 coins from JUST that? He did next to nothing, he was just showing how it worked. If you think about it logically, there will be a bonus for clearing the board, and it multiplies and so on each new board you make it to.

I imagine this was confirmed when it was first revealed, "As you progress without hitting any voltorbs, the levels get harder" as quoted from Serebii's article on it. So you keep hitting multipliers, the more coins you get, progress as far as you can and quit when you think you can go no further.

EDIT: I'm gonna have to see how these multipliers actually do work, from what I can tell in the video where he won 5 coins, he achieved:
x1
x2
x2

So for level one the base value of a correct square is 1 coin, and it really cant stay the same way through other levels as it'd eliminate the point for multipliers and the incentive to continue going despite the risk.

So looking at what I'm predicting:

Consecutive board number = X
1 * X = X
2 * X
3 * X

Although a prediction, I'm confident this is the system they are using.
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Well at least it got some decent sprites :)
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Old February 6th, 2010 (12:48 PM).
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Here are some hi-res screenshots I got with an emulator earlier today:


(hacked up a walk through walls code to get to the Game Corner more quickly)
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Here are some hi-res screenshots I got with an emulator earlier today:


(hacked up a walk through walls code to get to the Game Corner more quickly)
i didnt know pokemon hg/ss where already out in korea
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As from what I've seen through the video by Jake and the HQ screenshots, the new Voltorb Flip doesn't seem all that terrible. It's still lame how they had to take away apart of what was from the originals and change it, but at least they didn't leave it out completely for other regions like in Platinum for Europe. :\ Though, the game looks intriguing and doesn't look all to difficult, this idea still remains subjective.

It isn't a major deal to me though as I never took much interest in the Game Corner anyway. If anything, it would only be a place I go to if I might have ever needed anything through coins (which a handful of the times I would just purchase) or if I just roamed around the game with nothing to do I might take a visit and try out my luck. Other than that, I'm not like, "OH NOEZ, they removed the slots, AHHH!" :|
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Yup, it was released on the 4th of February (just two days ago actually). So, you'll be seeing more and learning new information (from whatever we don't already know) on the games as time progresses. With the US release date not too far off, it's only a matter of time before everything is really known, considering abundant news has been released recently.
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5 coins from JUST that? He did next to nothing, he was just showing how it worked. If you think about it logically, there will be a bonus for clearing the board, and it multiplies and so on each new board you make it to.

I imagine this was confirmed when it was first revealed, "As you progress without hitting any voltorbs, the levels get harder" as quoted from Serebii's article on it. So you keep hitting multipliers, the more coins you get, progress as far as you can and quit when you think you can go no further.

EDIT: I'm gonna have to see how these multipliers actually do work, from what I can tell in the video where he won 5 coins, he achieved:
x1
x2
x2

So for level one the base value of a correct square is 1 coin, and it really cant stay the same way through other levels as it'd eliminate the point for multipliers and the incentive to continue going despite the risk.

So looking at what I'm predicting:

Consecutive board number = X
1 * X = X
2 * X
3 * X

Although a prediction, I'm confident this is the system they are using.
I've talked to the person in question and the highest amount of coins he's gotten from a game is 18. D:

Yes, I do know that eventually the amounts should raise up, but it's Minesweeper. There's no way to be perfect in it. At some parts, it's just as bad as gambling as there are times when two spaces have a chance at a mine and there's no way to know other than one of the two last spaces have a mine in them.
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I figure that the US version should have slots. The worst the ESRB could do is give it an E10+ rating, which would vastly benefit online play anyways ;P
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Old February 6th, 2010 (2:17 PM). Edited February 13th, 2010 by Åzurε.
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Ehh, at least the building matches the new room to a degree, even if it is all super-expensive looking on the inside. Maybe it's just the big ol' diamond sign on the front.
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Why are the slot machines out anyway? But this sucks, I always liked playing the slots guess I can't anymore. :(
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I figure that the US version should have slots. The worst the ESRB could do is give it an E10+ rating, which would vastly benefit online play anyways ;P
Although in actuality a 10+ would be more accurate of the majority of their market, Nintendo will always aim for the every age rating to relate to their target market (young children). Some parents do pretty much follow and strictly let their kids play only the age rated games suitable for them, and that is exactly what they want to keep in mind.
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Why are the slot machines out anyway? But this sucks, I always liked playing the slots guess I can't anymore. :(
Slots were removed to keep the game at a suitable rating for all to play. It was argued that the slots machines in the Game Corner pertained gambling influence and therefore was banned from the EU versions, reason why the EU Platinum had disabled the Game Corners in Veilstone City completely.

To bypass this, Nintendo had the slot machines for all the games outside of Japan (including Korea as well) altered to the newly introduced mini-game, The Voltorb Flip, which is pretty much a Pokémon-related version to the game, Minesweeper. Sucks yes, but at least they didn't remove it completely and still offered something in its place.
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I hope they (chetaz! xD) will find a cheat to activate the slots and the cards again, just like one of my friends did in Platinum!^^[/QUOTE]

why wot the cheat code to activate it?
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