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Old February 13th, 2010 (12:44 PM).
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Ok, well, this team is pretty successul on smogon's shoddy.Sadly i haven't been able to test in on pc's server, even though i did NOTHING WRONG GUYS!!!:P

So, here's the team:


Roserade @ Focus Sash
Timid
252 SpA / 252 Spe / 4 Hp
Natural Cure
Sleep Powder
Toxic Spikes
HP Fire
Grass Knot

Usual tactic, Sleep Powder, Toxic Spikes. Grass Knot on slow stuff like Swampert,Vaporeon,Suicune. HP Fire is an option for opposing Roserade and Steels.

If i come across a fast taunter, i usually switch on first turn, so they waste a taunt (i.e. Aerodactly/Azelf taunts my Scizor, who hits back with Bullet Punch/Pursuit).


Rotom-S @ Choice Scarf
Timid
252 SpA / 252 Spe / 4 Hp
Air Slash
Shadow Ball
Thunderbolt
Trick

Revenge killer. Trick works on Blissey. Most of the time i switch in, pick an attack and fire.


Lucario @ Life Orb
Adamant
Inner Focus
252 Atk / 252 Spe / 4 Hp
Swords Dance
Close Combat
Ice Punch
Extremespeed

This has handy abilities. Best switch in is always Fake Out Ambipom. But, basically, i switch in on something that'll run, Swords Dance, then attack.


Scizor @ Choice Band
Adamant
Technician
252 Atk / 200 Hp / 56 Spe
Bullet Punch
Pursuit
U-Turn
Superpower

This is my physical revenge killer. Scizor is really common in OU for a reason. It can kill most things. I usually use it on faster leads than Roserade.


Gengar @ Expert Belt
Timid
252 SpA / 252 Spe / 4 Hp
HP Fire
Shadow Ball
Thunderbolt
Focus Blast

Standard Gengar set.Expert Belt to prevent it dying even faster than Gengar normally do with Life Orb.
HP Fire has it's perks, particularly when Steels switch in, thinking i'm running Explosion. Occasionally someone thinks i'm running Choice Specs if i only use one attack, which always has it's perks.


Porygon2 @ Leftovers
Bold
Trace
252 Hp / 216 Def / 40 SpA
Discharge
Ice Beam
Thunder Wave
Recover

This is my physical wall, and it really does stop threats such as Gyarados,DDMence.


So, that's my team. What's it's flaws?
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Old February 13th, 2010 (12:56 PM).
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Typical offensive team, "Blissey used Thunderwave and Flamehrower" gg. This needs sorting out, that and your general lack of ways to deal with status.

Anyway, yeah Toxic Spikes dont help this team since nothing benefits from it. Stealth Rock helps this team more as it helps cripple Lucario's counters.

If you are going to use Toxic Spikes at least get something that benefits from them lol (see things like Gyarados, Empoleon, Offensive Cune etc). Either way you are going to want something to set up the Rocks or it just gives Mence, Zapdos, Gyarados totally free switch ins which is really bad.

Porygon2 also seems like dead weight and so does Rotom tbh and there are much better options for this team that do more so id look to replace those.
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Old February 13th, 2010 (1:09 PM). Edited February 14th, 2010 by Amore.
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Ok.Well, how about i switch to this lead:


Azelf @ Focus Sash
Naive
116 Atk / 140 SpA / 252 Spe
Taunt
Stealth Rock
Psychic
Explosion

140 as Smogon's set recommends i don't drop below 321 SpA. 116 Atk to give Explosion more power. So, i can taunt slower leads, set up Rocks,use Psychic, or Explode in their face.

Then, to get me a reliable counter to dragons,gyara, etc. as well as being a fast revenge killer:


Jolteon @ Life Orb/Expert Belt??
Timid
4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Thunderbolt
Shadow Ball
HP Grass
Baton Pass

This set, should, if i read right, give unresisted coverage. HP Grass is there for Swampert, etc. Also, lack of HP Ice is ok, as Baton Pass is there to go to either Lucario (Blissey,Porygon2,Snorlax are scared off by STAB Close Combat) or my Vaporeon which can counter dragons, if it's not safe to switch in Lucario. i thought about Life Orb or Expert Belt to give extra power,particularly Expert Belt, as Life Orb would make Jolteon even more frail than it already is.


Vaporeon @ Leftovers
Bold
188 HP / 252 Def / 68 Spe
Wish
Protect
Surf
Ice Beam

I noticed that, ironically, things that can stop Vaporeon: Gyarados,Suicune,Vaporeon,Jolteon,Magnezone,Rotom-A,Raikou can be switched into by Jolteon, who can Thunderbolt Gyara,Suicune,Vaporeon, absorb Electric attacks from Jolteon,Magnezone,Rotom-A and Raikou, even though it can only really harm Rotom out of those 4.

Likewise,Ttar,Flygon,Gliscor,Salamence,Dragonite, which can all switch in to Jolteon, can be dealt with by Surf and Ice Beam.
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