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Started by Fox♠ April 3rd, 2010 11:28 AM
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That's a perfectly good reason. At heart the 4kids one piece had the same messages as the original, so whgat's the problem?
And what message would that be...?
Be a pirate?
Sail the oceans looking for a legendary treasure?

I dont think One piece is about having a "message".
Its about watching pirates with kick-ass superpowers beat the crap out of each other. Which 4kids horribly sensors and alters to make it "suitable" for us thus ruining it.
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And what message would that be...?
Be a pirate?
Sail the oceans looking for a legendary treasure?

I dont think One piece is about having a "message".
Its about watching pirates with kick-ass superpowers beat the crap out of each other. Which 4kids horribly sensors and alters to make it "suitable" for us thus ruining it.
LOL
and you say 4kids butchered One Piece? If you can't pick up on One Piece's blatent messages about friendship, following your dreams, living without regrets and respecting others then you really have to right to slant 4Kids over their dub of it.
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Lets see....
they sensored the crap out of most episodes, the changed the opening theme into this pece of crap rap song, and they took out all the bgm's and replaced them.
The Gum Gum Rap was awesome. Don't know what the hell you were watching.

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LOL
and you say 4kids butchered One Piece? If you can't pick up on One Piece's blatent messages about friendship, following your dreams, living without regrets and respecting others then you really have to right to slant 4Kids over their dub of it.
LOL u really think little kids who 4 kids is trying to market this to would pick up on these messages? Why, because one piece isnt meant for little kids, but 4kids apparantly didnt get the message and they had to utterly RUIN a great anime.
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LOL u really think little kids who 4 kids is trying to market this to would pick up on these messages? Why, because one piece isnt meant for little kids, but 4kids apparantly didnt get the message and they had to utterly RUIN a great anime.
Yes. Just because you clearly only watch it for the violence doesnt mean everyone else bypasses the obvious messages.

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Yes. Just because you clearly only watch it for the violence doesnt mean everyone else bypasses the obvious messages.
LOL u realize that 4kids censores also water down the messages, and meaning behind the characters motives. I cant beleive u actually are trying to compare the dub ot the original version.
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LOL u realize that 4kids censores also water down the messages, and meaningbehind the characters motives. I cant beleive u actually are trying to compare the dub ot the original version.
Christ?! Really?! I hadn't noticed in the 400+ subbed episodes I've watched, how stupid of me.

Usopp's mother died and his dad left to be a pirate - still in the dub
Luffy wants to be king of the pirates - still in the dub
Zoro wants to be the best swordsman, inspired by his friends death - still in the dub
Sanji wants to find all Blue - still in the dub

I could go on but you're starting to type like a bad fan sub now and I'm not sure what you're saying.

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Christ?! Really?! I hadn't noticed in the 400+ subbed episodes I've watched, how stupid of me.

Usopp's mother died and his dad left to be a pirate - still in the dub
Luffy wants to be king of the pirates - still in the dub
Zoro wants to be the best swordsman, inspired by his friends death - still in the dub
Sanji wants to find all Blue - still in the dub

I could go on but you're starting to type like a bad fan sub now and I'm not sure what you're saying.
Its funny how while the dub still has metions of their motives, at times entire scenes of their past were cut out or heavily edited, such as the scene where Arlong kills Nami's mother in front of her eyes. Thus what I mean by WATERED DOWN. You are arguing in favor of a completely inferior version of a great series ruined by 4kids
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Its funny how while the dub still has metions of their motives, at times entire scenes of their past were cut out or heavily edited, such as the scene where Arlong kills Nami's mother in front of her eyes. Thus what I mean by WATERED DOWN. You are arguing in favor of a completely inferior version of a great series ruined by 4kids
You mean, even though Nami's adoptive mother still dies in the 4kids version, you are pathetic enough to whinge that her death scene was edited? You do realise America and the UK have really different, stricter broadcasting rules than Japan right?
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LOL u really think little kids who 4 kids is trying to market this to would pick up on these messages? Why, because one piece isnt meant for little kids, but 4kids apparantly didnt get the message and they had to utterly RUIN a great anime.
One Piece is meant for little kids.

Though I'll stay out of it to keep the Other going.

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One Piece is meant for little kids.

Though I'll stay out of it to keep the Other going.
The manga is rated Teen 13+. I dont consider 13 and up little kids
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4Kids voice actors are the best there are.
I beg to differ... I've heard a few I like better, but there's no denying the talent that's there. I just think they screwed up on a couple VAs... some have voices that don't really change with the character's mood as indicated by their body language (not like I can do that, though, myself XD).

NO
JUST NO
I HATE 4craps!
Their one peice dub was a travesty, as was their yugioh dub.
They ruin every anime they touch.
The ony dub from them that was ONLY TOLERABLE was pokemon.
THATS IT.
I HATE THEM >:(
If you think 4crap is good, the go watch some real subbed anime and copare it to the CRAP that is the 4kids dub and feel ASHAMED u ever liked them. DO IT!!!!!!!
You have no right to complain about "butchered" dubs until you quit murdering the English language with every post you make. Wait... seems you fixed that with your last post. You're arguing in favor of a media that has poor proofreading.
whoops

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You mean, even though Nami's adoptive mother still dies in the 4kids version, you are pathetic enough to whinge that her death scene was edited? You do realise America and the UK have really different, stricter broadcasting rules than Japan right?
These stricter broadcast rules do not merit the amount of ABSOLUTELY POINTLESS edits and at times REMOVAL of entire episodes for no real reason.

One example: Changing the race of a crewmember on Buggys crew from black, to white. JUST BECAUSE

Ill admit that there are some things which had to be edited but nowhere near the amount that 4kids edited.
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So you would deny a new generation from enjoying One Piece?
WTF does that have to do with 4kids edits?

I dont care about little kids watching one piece. Thats their parents problem, but I do care about 4kids trying to make it into a show for 5 year olds which it isnt.
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Well you seem to like it.
Kay u seem to be resorting to petty statements now, that dont make much sense anymore. So you can go watch your little 4kids anime, and ill go watch the real one piece.
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Kay u seem to be resorting to petty statements now, that dont make much sense anymore. So you can go watch your little 4kids anime, and ill go watch the real one piece.
Even though I clearly understand the real One Piece a lot better than you do. Who are you to say what age group One Piece is for? Oda has stated many times he'd like for everyone to enjoy One Piece.

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Even though I clearly understand the real One Piece a lot better than you do. Who are you to say what age group One Piece is for? Oda has stated many times he'd like for everyone to enjoy One Piece.
Its funny that you are defending Oda's wish for everyone to enjoy One Piece, while at the same time supporting a dubbing company that has drastically changed the series from what he himself intended it to be.
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Its funny that you are defending Oda's wish for everyone to enjoy One Piece, while at the same time supporting a dubbing company that has drastically changed the series from what he himself intended it to be.
But it hasn't. You're just upset because swearing and violence was removed.

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But it hasn't. You're just upset because swearing and violence was removed.
It sounds like your trying to pidgeonhole me as someone who only cares simply about violence and cursing. You must understand that violence is used at times in a story to portray a characters beleifs, or emotions during a situation and it can add substance to a story. I understand some of the violence had to be edited by 4kids, but they overdid it. Not to mention they cut out stupid things that werent violent or offensive at all.
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To people who hate them:

GET OVER YOURSELVES. They may have dubbed blowfully, but they're dubbing ONE anime right now, Dinosaur King. Dub or no dub, that show SUX.

They're entire Saturday morning line-up is reruns, Dinosaur King and probably a new season of TMNT:BTTS.

7:00 AM Winx Club (TV-Y7-FV) (E/I)
7:30 AM Winx Club (TV-Y7-FV) (E/I)
8:00 AM Dinosaur King (TV-Y7-FV)
8:30 AM Dinosaur King (TV-Y7-FV)
9:00 AM Yu-Gi-Oh! (TV-Y7-FV)
9:30 AM Yu-Gi-Oh! (TV-Y7-FV)
10:00 AM Sonic X (TV-Y7-FV)
10:30 AM Sonic X (TV-Y7-FV)
11:00 AM Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Fast Forward (TV-Y7-FV)
11:30 AM Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Fast Forward (TV-Y7-FV)

Oh, and I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE TMNT. One of the best cartoons of my generation. Anyone who helped bring them to my TV screen doesn't deserve to be bagged on.
Haha you said Bagon! LOL (Worst joke/pun ever.)

On an actual related note, I don't bash them because I find no reason to watch the Pokemon anime, the games are so much better. Now if Ash actually bothered to evolve his Pokemon. [Here's looking at you PIKACHU.]
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It sounds like your trying to pidgeonhole me as someone who only cares simply about violence and cursing. You must understand that violence is used at times in a story to portray a characters beleifs, or emotions during a situation and it can add substance to a story. I understand some of the violence had to be edited by 4kids, but they overdid it. Not to mention they cut out stupid things that werent violent or offensive at all.
The violence is still in the 4kids one, the edits are neccisary by western broadcasting laws.

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The violence is still in the 4kids one, the edits are neccisary by western broadcasting laws.
Yeah, and changing a black guy to a white guy is also required by western broadcasters. AMIRITE?
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