How do you feel about euthanasia?

Started by NarutoActor April 21st, 2010 12:07 PM
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My teacher was asking us about this in english class, since we were reading mice, and men. Should Mercy killing be allowed? I for one think no one should be able take another persons life away, even if that person is suffering. Pain make a people grow up.
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No it haven't, there just stating a common point that most people view. I am not starting a debate post how YOU feel, not replies to how I feel.
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I'd like to bring up another question. If people are so against euthanasia for humans, then why is it all right to put a pet down because you can't afford them, because they're sick and only might recover, or because of the conventional argument for euthanasia in humans, that they're dying anyway, and it should be all right to put them out of their misery? Please note that all three examples I provided for pets are considered perfectly valid in most places, including the fact that most shelters will euthanize pets that have been there for a certain period of time to make room for new ones.

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I think euthanasia is wrong no madder what. Life is amazing and should be cherished even during the hard times.
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If someone is in horrendous pain and is going to die anyways then I think they should be allowed to be killed. Well I mean... you should probably get an okay from them first. Unless of course it's one of those life support situations where they can't respond and the only reason why they're alive is because of a machine. In that case then I think it's up to the family or closest person to the person on life support.
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Euthanasia with humans is usually consensual; you're not being inhumane by following someone's requests. I also don't think people should be subject to pain just to "grow up".

However, I think legalization of euthanasia may just lead to lazier medical practices. "Oh, well she said she was ready to die." So I agree with your standpoint but not your reasons.
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I am for it, as people have said, if someone wants to die and will spend the last few weeks/months in pain then surely forcing them to stay alive is more inhumane? If they want to die (and have legitimate reasoning to want to die) then they should be able to. Assisted suicide should be legal too as long as all parties are fine with it, not that I could bring myself to do it myself but the option should be there for those that could. And "grow up", really? This isn't about maturity it's about a long and painful death, and how can you expect a thread of this nature not to turn into a debate?


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I really don't think a person who is having horrible pain and know they're gonna die very soon isn't gonna want to kill themselves.

Really, if I suddenly go into pain and I know I definitely will die (Not soon though, please disregard my age :P) I'd really want the doctor to give me some euthanasia. Especially if that is later in my life when my children are mature and I pretty much haven no other purpose in life.

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So if a 12 is getting bullied non stop, and commits suicide it would be okay? just because someone is in pain doesn't mean they have the right to end there own life. Suicide is illegal, like euthanasia.

Also on the part about pain growing someone up was obviously not ment for someone who has already lived a long life, for they are already grown up. Please do not take things out of context. :D
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I am definitely for euthanasia--having to watch a close friend die a prolonged and painful death....it hurts immensely and it could have been less worse if they could have had a physician-assisted suicide and had a much less painful death. I see no point in having people to live their last moments in unbearable pain, especially if there isn't much else to be done about it.

Just think to yourself--would you rather die in excruciating pain for days/weeks/months, or end it right then and there and not have to continue like that.

In my humble opinion, I don't believe there is really anything that can be said to justify having to put yourself and your family through something horrible like that.

As for the above post, I don't believe your 12-year-old scenario is acceptable either--there is this thing called counseling, amongst many other alternatives to soothe pain--but that's vastly different from what I've mentioned.
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So if a 12 is getting bullied non stop, and commits suicide it would be okay? just because someone is in pain doesn't mean they have the right to end there own life. Suicide is illegal, like euthanasia.

Also on the part about pain growing someone up was obviously not ment for someone who has already lived a long life, for they are already grown up. Please do not take things out of context. :D
Suicide may be technically illegal but in reality it's not since you can't convict a dead person of a crime.

Either way, suicide and euthanasia are completely different things. Suicide is caused by emotional factors, while people choose euthanasia for physical reasons.

Euthanasia is only meant to make someone's inevitable death less painful, not kill someone who has a decent chance at surviving and living a happy life.

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A 12 year old going crazy over bullying is one thing. Because 12 year olds don't have the maturity to handle such things. And if they go as far to commit suicide the reality is they will forever be remembered as a selfish person who couldn't confront problems. That's how all teen suicides are.

As for Euthanasia cases, you know you're gonna die. Everybody does not want you to suffer. Euthanasia would be a completely different form of killing yourself where you end suffering for you right there, and shorten the suffering of the ones close to you. Technically, you do more good with euthanasia.
A 12 year old going crazy over bullying is one thing. Because 12 year olds don't have the maturity to handle such things. And if they go as far to commit suicide the reality is they will forever be remembered as a selfish person who couldn't confront problems. That's how all teen suicides are.
I don't agree with that at all. How can you say that they are selfish for committing suicide? If someone is in that much turmoil that they take their own life I can only feel sorrow for them. It's not like after one day of bullying they decide to kill themselves. This goes on for years for some children. Also think of how torn they'd be. They want to take their lives to end their misery, but at the same time the thoughts of how their family will miss them must tear them up too. It has never even in the slightest crossed my mind as a teen suicide being defined as someone who was selfish and couldn't confront their problems. If anything it should be someone who was pushed to their absolute limits.
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So if a 12 is getting bullied non stop, and commits suicide it would be okay? just because someone is in pain doesn't mean they have the right to end there own life. Suicide is illegal, like euthanasia.

Also on the part about pain growing someone up was obviously not ment for someone who has already lived a long life, for they are already grown up. Please do not take things out of context. :D
You don't appear to know what you're even talking about. Regular suicide, non-consensual 'mercy' killing, and euthanasia are all different things.

Suicide, which is what you're describing, is a completely different subject and the fact that you're attempting to use that as an example makes you look completely foolish. That's emotional pain, not physical pain.

I associate the term "mercy killing" more as killing a person who is injured and likely to die anyways... like, say you're trapped in a desert with someone, with no food, water or medical supplies, and they break their legs and are in horrible pain, with no way to get help or move. Lets say you have a gun. They decide that a bullet to the head is probably better than staying there, starving and dehydrating, waiting for the wolves to come and eat them. They ask you to do it for them. That would be more "mercy killing" to me. More of an emergency thing.

Euthanasia would be more like cancer patients with no hope of recovery, or old people who are dying of old-person problems. I think it should be allowed. It's their life, and it's absolutely none of your business whether they live or die if that's the choice they make, especially when it's more a choice of "live for a few more horrible hours/days/months, then die" or "die now relatively painlessly".

People who are on life support and can't make a decision are more of a gray area. If they decided beforehand, then of course their decision should be respected. If it's up to the family, then they should decide whether there's really a good chance of them ever recovering.

tl;dr - It's no one's business but their own and they shouldn't be forced to suffer because of the beliefs of others.

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I agree with euthanasia as long as the person or animal has nil chances of survival. If someone is in constant pain and it's 100% certain that they're going to die (i.e. brain tumour; heart tumour; etc.), and they want you to "pull the plug", you should be permitted to do so. It's technically not suicide, since you're just dying slowly with no chances of survival.

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So, if a dying person makes a conscious decision to be euthanized(sp?), it's okay with me. In pets, if there's an unrealistic chance of recovery from an injury or condition, then that's okay too. Elsewise, I don't see why people would really utilize it.
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I agree with euthanasia as long as the person or animal has nil chances of survival. If someone is in constant pain and it's 100% certain that they're going to die (i.e. brain tumour; heart tumour; etc.), and they want you to "pull the plug", you should be permitted to do so. It's technically not suicide, since you're just dying slowly with no chances of survival.
What you're describing sounds a bit more like a "do not resuscitate" order than euthanasia. Euthanasia is usually something that causes someone's death before they would naturally die of whatever is ailing them once they stopped treatment, which is probably why it's so controversial. Turning off life support and DNR orders are common enough and not illegal.
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I don't think it should be put onto anyone else to kill another human. It's not fair on the doctors. If a person wants to die that much and can tell people that they want to die, they should make it so those people can get a pill from a doctor that can kill them. It's not fair for another person to have to go up and kill you.

Personally, I'm not against it, but nor am I for it. But it is another form of suicide, and unless you are dying and are in so much pain you physically cannot move, that is the only time it should be legal.

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What you're describing sounds a bit more like a "do not resuscitate" order than euthanasia. Euthanasia is usually something that causes someone's death before they would naturally die of whatever is ailing them once they stopped treatment, which is probably why it's so controversial. Turning off life support and DNR orders are common enough and not illegal.
From what I know, turning off life support is illegal since it's like you kill the person :s

What I mean, though, is if someone's got a brain tumour and going to die anyway at 100% chance, and asks to be killed beforehand, I don't see why we should deny them that.


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So if a 12 is getting bullied non stop, and commits suicide it would be okay? just because someone is in pain doesn't mean they have the right to end there own life. Suicide is illegal, like euthanasia.

Also on the part about pain growing someone up was obviously not ment for someone who has already lived a long life, for they are already grown up. Please do not take things out of context. :D
Why do things have to be so black and white? I certainly don't agree with euthanasia here but that's not to say its always bad, dying on terminal cancer or a tumour is a few leagues above being bullied, and besides, as mentioned, suicide =/= euthanasia. And when you don't clarify things initially people are going to take it out of context...


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