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If Pokemon Ruby & Pokemon Sapphire was remade, would you buy it?

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Well we can't really confirm anything yet, it's something but it's not enough..

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-The elite four's Pokemon keeps the same as Emerald, the champion is steven, in the rematches you will fight wallace, you can battle steven in the Meteor falls.

- In the remake of ruby Wallace will be the last gym leader, Juan in the remake of sapphire, like B/W.
Then who will be in the rematch of Sootopolis Gym in Ruby, if Wallace were to take the spot of League Champion in general?

Emerald and FR/LG all had the same 'engine' or something like that, which would indicate that they started working on FR/LG after Emerald was complete (or halfway...)
Yet FRLG came out before Emerald?
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I'd say they're putting the finishing touches on the third game and have already began work on RS remakes, but are planning on getting the third game released before RS, once that's done they can dedicate their full effort into the RS remakes which will follow not long after the third game (next year)
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Then who will be in the rematch of Sootopolis Gym in Ruby, if Wallace were to take the spot of League Champion in general?
...My idea is wrong, I just thought it would be cool if the last gym is different depending on your version like B/W.
But most likely the 8th gym leader will be Juan in both versions.

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I think they should leave it as they did in Emerald because that would mean getting rid of Juan for one version and keeping him in the other, I think they should just leave it as Juan 8th, Wallace Champ.
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I'm going to read more of this thread once I'm able to become more active, but I just wanted to comment on a few things.

Thanks! I've received your sentiments. Ruby and Sapphire are very important games to me. I want to make something good. Thanks!!

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AIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!! :cer_boogie: While this leaves us...basically back where we started in the first place XD, it's a tiny glimmer of hope pushing for Ruby/Sapphire remakes. I'm going to be optimistic in this case. :) I don't expect actual news on them until probably between February and May of 2012, since those months were the times of the BW and HGSS announcements, respectively (if you count the Zoroark silhouette thing as a BW 'reveal').

-The elite four's Pokemon keeps the same as Emerald, the champion is steven, in the rematches you will fight wallace, you can battle steven in the Meteor falls.

-They really should add one more battle with May, all of her Pokemons are fully evolved.

- In the remake of ruby Wallace will be the last gym leader, Juan in the remake of sapphire, like B/W.
As for Elite 4 teams, I'd prefer the "first wave" (initial challenge) to take after their original teams from Ruby/Sapphire. For the "second wave" (rematch), in a manner similar to FireRed/LeafGreen's Elite 4, I would definitely love their teams to be powered up a bit. If they can have up to 6 Pokemon for the rematches, I'd like it if Sidney used his five core Pokemon from RS, as well as adding Crawdaunt from Emerald to his rematch team. The other Elite 4 members would get similar upgrades, with rematch Pokemon levels being on par with at least the ones from FR/LG.

Regarding the RS remakes' Champion, I'd prefer it to be Steven, simply because he was the original, and IMO the RS Elite 4/Champion challenge was a little more varied/tougher rather than having two Water-type based teams (In addition to being 100% Ice-type, Glacia's team is 60% Water-type) like Emerald did.

However, the deal with each remake version having a different 8th Gym Leader like BW is somewhat intriguing... I could see the Ruby remake having Wallace as 8th Gym Leader and Steven as Champion, with Steven's fossil/metal team reinforcing Ruby's land theme. Post-game, Juan could be lounging around in the Abandoned Ship, a suitable place for a Water-type aficionado. The Sapphire remake could feature Juan as 8th Gym Leader, and Wallace as Champion, reinforcing Sapphire's sea theme. Steven, like in Emerald, could be scavenging for meteorites at Meteor Falls during the post-game. The only problem I have with it is that I'm most likely getting the Sapphire remake, and I'd rather have Steven as Champion like in the originals. :P

And yeah, May could use a few more battles. At least let her starter Pokemon become fully evolved (the same goes for Brendan and female players).

I'd say they're putting the finishing touches on the third game and have already began work on RS remakes, but are planning on getting the third game released before RS, once that's done they can dedicate their full effort into the RS remakes which will follow not long after the third game (next year)
At this point, I'm not too sure about whether the remakes will precede the proposed Gray Version or vice-versa, as we've had both patterns exhibited by the releases of Generation III and Generation IV third versions and remakes. Since Generation V is touted as a "rebirth" of Pokemon, I would think that Game Freak is trying to extend the current generation for a little longer, although the fact that Best Wishes is a bit faster-paced than past anime seasons contradicts that notion... Then again, RS's 10th anniversary in Japan is coming up in November 2012, and I would assume that roughly a year gap is left between main series' releases, so if the remakes release were to match that time period (as FR/LG showed, the remakes don't have to be released on anniversaries), Gray Version would likely be released after the RS remakes.

I'd probably prefer that the RS remakes get released after Gray Version, so that they would be able to glean any enhancements introduced in Gray, similar to how HGSS was able to utilize Platinum's enhancements, such as VS sprites. Time will tell, I guess... >_>


EDIT: Just thought of another idea for the RS remake Champion. How about a double battle against Steven and Wallace? It would be a nice compromise between RS and Emerald, and would highlight the land/sea theme (Steel/Rock/Ground-types + Water-types) even further.

Alternately, we could simply re-use Emerald's League structure. GAH, so many possibilities! #_#

In actuality, I'd prefer Wallace as 8th, Steven as Champion. For the post-game, either Juan joins forces with Wallace during the rematch to pit the player in an 8th-Gym double battle, or Juan could be found and battled in the Abandoned Ship.
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If GameFreak want to follow a similar pattern then it's likely they will announce remakes around June 2012 that gives roughly 5 months to churn out information etc. then release which will bring it round to November 2012 which is the 10 year anniversary months of Pokémon Ruby & Sapphire then shortly after in 2013 the third game may come along, as they have had a remake before a third game but then that corrupts the third game coming 2 years after the originals pattern so basically, it's upto them how they play the cards.. that's my theory anyway but I have a feeling they might do third game first.

I'm going to read more of this thread once I'm able to become more active, but I just wanted to comment on a few things.
EDIT: Just thought of another idea for the RS remake Champion. How about a double battle against Steven and Wallace? It would be a nice compromise between RS and Emerald, and would highlight the land/sea theme (Steel/Rock/Ground-types + Water-types) even further.

Alternately, we could simply re-use Emerald's League structure. GAH, so many possibilities! #_#

In actuality, I'd prefer Wallace as 8th, Steven as Champion. For the post-game, either Juan joins forces with Wallace during the rematch to pit the player in an 8th-Gym double battle, or Juan could be found and battled in the Abandoned Ship.
You make a good point with the double battle as a champion, although people may not support this, it's something that has never been done and would be intresting to try out and see. As for the double 8th that would be kind of repetitive considering the 7th Gym is already a double battle so I don't really see that happening but I do see them alternating the 8th gym so Juan is rematchable somewhere else in the game and they can alternate through the two games so that like I say.. in one he's rematchable in a specific/unknown location and the other he is infact the 8th Gym Leader.
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More remakes? Ugh, no thank you. Everyone's remake-crazy nowadays, and I don't see for the life of me why. I'd far prefer new material to rehashes. FRLG and HGSS were OK since those regions had zero connectivity to the newer ones, but Hoenn's just fine where it is.

And if they do remake it, what next? Diamond and Pearl remade in Gen VI? Black and White remade in Gen VII? That's just... overkill. Remaking a generation two after it's come out is just... unappealing. It doesn't help that most of the good features that remakes introduced keep getting left out of most subsequent games. FRLG gave us the VS Seeker, which got used in the Sinnoh games and was promptly abandoned for inferior substitutes. Following Pokemon and the whole picture gimmick was great in HGSS... and left out once again in BW. The Pokeathlon was far more entertaining than contests or the Musical, but it's left in its own little corner of the verse.

RSE remakes will have to bring something seriously worthwhile and innovative to the table for me to even consider buying them. I'm not going to waste money- and yes, it would be a waste- just for nostalgia's sake.

Then again I'm talking about the Pokemon fandom where nostalgia is valued more than actual quality, so whatever.
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As long as we have more reason to believe these remakes will happen, let's continue with some more features we'd like to see: Remember how Deoxys, the final Hoenn Pokemon, debuted in the remakes, FireRed and LeafGreen? Well, I think it would at least be an interesting twist if they made it so Genesect debuts in the R/S remakes. Note that Genesect is the only Unova legendary Pokemon to not have overworld sprites programmed in B/W. I'm not saying in any way that this is something that is definitely gonna happen, but I think that would be awesome.

Also, how about a revamped team for Steven? Since Steven is fought post-game in Emerald, that would allow him to have National Dex Pokemon. Perhaps, since he's a declared Steel-type specialist, he could have a 100% Steel team. It would be awesome if he could have a Bisharp. Or, maybe he could be rematchable with a new team. I'm pretty much about 99% certain that at least the Elite Four will be rematchable with enhanced teams, since that's been done with every remake. So, why not Steven?

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I think they would want to keep Stevens team the same.. maybe some minor tweaks in levels and the odd one or two Pokémon but I'm sure they will want to maintain his original team, you know for tradition? I mean even though some people may not like it, I second what you say I'd love to see him with a Bisharp! or Winona with an Unfezant and Roxanne with a Gigalith (rematches) the list goes on... I do see them making rematches for the Gym Leaders AND the E4 where they have National Dex Pokemon from Gen I-V.
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I just want them to change Steven's Aggron's moveset. It had nothing but special moves it was so easy to take out because of that. Give the thing EQ Iron Head or Iron Tail,Head Smash, Stone Edge or Rock Slide and leave Dragon Claw.
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After checking around some other sites, I came across some groups of names that made me laugh, one of the funniest being: Raunchy Ruby and Sexy Sapphire, lol...
Don't you think Hoenn deserves to be at least this beautiful?

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They should make Wallace the 8th gym leader, Steven the Champion, and have Juan take Stevens place in Meteor Falls. Give Juan the same team he had in the final rematch against him in Emerald, and you're good to go.

As for Steven's team, they should include more Steel types. Maybe they should keep his team the same for the first Champion battle, then introduce a Steelix and Scizor for the rematch (post-National Dex). Right now, I don't know whether he's supposed to be a Steel-type Champion or a Rock-type Champion, but I would prefer the former.
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As for Steven's team, they should include more Steel types. Maybe they should keep his team the same for the first Champion battle, then introduce a Steelix and Scizor for the rematch (post-National Dex). Right now, I don't know whether he's supposed to be a Steel-type Champion or a Rock-type Champion, but I would prefer the former.
It's not really that he loves Rock types, but prefers 'fossil' types.
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More remakes? Ugh, no thank you. Everyone's remake-crazy nowadays, and I don't see for the life of me why. I'd far prefer new material to rehashes. FRLG and HGSS were OK since those regions had zero connectivity to the newer ones, but Hoenn's just fine where it is.

And if they do remake it, what next? Diamond and Pearl remade in Gen VI? Black and White remade in Gen VII? That's just... overkill. Remaking a generation two after it's come out is just... unappealing. It doesn't help that most of the good features that remakes introduced keep getting left out of most subsequent games. FRLG gave us the VS Seeker, which got used in the Sinnoh games and was promptly abandoned for inferior substitutes. Following Pokemon and the whole picture gimmick was great in HGSS... and left out once again in BW. The Pokeathlon was far more entertaining than contests or the Musical, but it's left in its own little corner of the verse.

RSE remakes will have to bring something seriously worthwhile and innovative to the table for me to even consider buying them. I'm not going to waste money- and yes, it would be a waste- just for nostalgia's sake.

Then again I'm talking about the Pokemon fandom where nostalgia is valued more than actual quality, so whatever.
Some Pokemon fans grew up in the sinnoh and unova region which makes it their favorite generation, like the older people who liked Kanto and Johto.

Anyway I'm sick of waiting, every month they say there's a new game possibility but in the end it's a spin off games...

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Same^ Just wanna hear that RS remake announcment!
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More remakes? Ugh, no thank you. Everyone's remake-crazy nowadays, and I don't see for the life of me why. I'd far prefer new material to rehashes. FRLG and HGSS were OK since those regions had zero connectivity to the newer ones, but Hoenn's just fine where it is.

And if they do remake it, what next? Diamond and Pearl remade in Gen VI? Black and White remade in Gen VII? That's just... overkill. Remaking a generation two after it's come out is just... unappealing. It doesn't help that most of the good features that remakes introduced keep getting left out of most subsequent games. FRLG gave us the VS Seeker, which got used in the Sinnoh games and was promptly abandoned for inferior substitutes. Following Pokemon and the whole picture gimmick was great in HGSS... and left out once again in BW. The Pokeathlon was far more entertaining than contests or the Musical, but it's left in its own little corner of the verse.

RSE remakes will have to bring something seriously worthwhile and innovative to the table for me to even consider buying them. I'm not going to waste money- and yes, it would be a waste- just for nostalgia's sake.

Then again I'm talking about the Pokemon fandom where nostalgia is valued more than actual quality, so whatever.
DS Compatibility with the 3DS means remakes of Generation 4 or 5 will not be seen for quite a long time (and I get the feeling they'll stick to the cartridge design of the DS/3DS in future DS generations). However, Generation 3 is below the cutoff - meaning that unless you own a DS Lite, DS, or you still own a GBA, you're not going to be able to play them on the newer consoles. Yes, there's always the choice of emulation, but you'd get the moaners saying how nothing had been improved... and Generation 3 wasn't as well-received as other generations. This'd be a chance to close that gap. Can you honestly say you didn't buy FRLG, or HGSS? And not because of nostalgia, but because they allowed you to interact with the other games of that generation (since Generation 1 and 2 were cut off from generation 3), or because they were a general improvement over their originating games?

The idea of remakes is not just "here's the original game with spruced up graphics, now giz us money." (although FRLG might have seemed otherwise). The idea is to improve the games with mechanics that they might have originally wanted to implement, ideas that were going to be included, but were dropped either because of time or because of technological restraints. You must also remember that the third game is also technically classes as a 'remake' since it's not released alongside the main two games.

Anyways, I think I've bored you all with my ramblings long enough. Now here's a few improvements that I think would make these games greater:

-Sevii Islands - we saw them in FRLG but there wasn't much to do on them save for defeating the last remnants of Team Rocket. It'd be interesting if the other team were stationed on the Sevii Islands instead. As well as this, the islands, routes and dungeons should be greatly expanded. It could be here that we gain the National Pokedex too.
- Johto Starters - in Emerald, if we complete the Hoenn Dex, we get to choose a starter from Johto's lineup. It's not necessary to include this feature as I assume we'd still get the Poketransfer, but it'd be a nice thought.
- Improved PokeGear - did anybody else suffer the problems that trainers took forever to phone for a rematch when compared to GSC/HGSS? It'd be nice if that was improved so that we get to have rematches more often. Also, naturally, the map should be altered to feature the marking and tracking features that were in Generations IV and V.
- Roaming Pokemon - Obviously, we should get Latias/Latios to return as roaming Pokemon, but I think there should be other roaming Pokemon too. Perhaps, if the Sevii Islands were included, we could get roaming Pokemon there too?
- Expanded Hoenn Dex - this is a given. The number of evolutions/prevolutions to Hoenn Pokemon introduced in Generation IV needs to be addressed in Hoenn remakes.
-Rayquaza - I liked the idea in HGSS that you needed both Groudon and Kyogre to be able to face Rayquaza. I'd suggest implementing this, plus only allowing Rayquaza to appear after beating the Pokemon League, or else toning down its level (after all, using a Lv70 legendary wasn't exactly fair).
- A link to Black and White - another given, although how is another question as it'd be expected that an RSE remake would take place in the same time frame s the original - some years before B&W. This might be a good time to explore bringing back the Time Capsule from GSC.

I think that about covers my thoughts. Sorry for the long post :P
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I'd like to see an addition to Hoenn, like they did with FRLG agree'd but then I'd like Hoenn to maintain it's beauty, it's by far the nicest looking region and I think if they changed it, then it would just ruin it. Maybe a separate island expanding from Battle Frontier.. but no edits to anything in Hoenn, I'm expecting the announcement to be within the next few months (December)

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Anyway I'm sick of waiting, every month they say there's a new game possibility but in the end it's a spin off games...
I somewhat agree with this. It's quite funny really too though. Like most people have said though, they'll probably announce more closer to the 10th anniversary of R/S, which is next year I think.

I'm quite interested in thinking if they'll change the protagonists again, or well the designs. They've done it for Red and Ethan, and seeing as we've got a female protagonist in R/S/E- I don't want them to touch May. >:
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They will almost certainly have costume re-designs, and Ken Sugimori's drawing style has changed quite a lot since Ruby and Sapphire came out.

DS Compatibility with the 3DS means remakes of Generation 4 or 5 will not be seen for quite a long time (and I get the feeling they'll stick to the cartridge design of the DS/3DS in future DS generations).
I wouldn't be sure of that. Look at the Wii U - it's another disc-based system but Nintendo have not included Gamecube compatibility with it.

Generally, backwards compatibility in games consoles is a feature designed to help promote sales during the system's early days by allowing people to sell their old systems but still play their favourite games for it, until the new console has a strong enough game library to stand on its own.

We've seen that Nintendo aren't afraid to remove the feature, by the DSi not having a GBA slot, because it allows them to cut out one part of the design, which could make the difference when they try and fit the components into smaller case or free up space for new ones (like the DSi's SD cards) - and the more and more generations of compatibility you try to add to a system via hardware, the more complicated it gets.

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I somewhat agree with this. It's quite funny really too though. Like most people have said though, they'll probably announce more closer to the 10th anniversary of R/S, which is next year I think.

I'm quite interested in thinking if they'll change the protagonists again, or well the designs. They've done it for Red and Ethan, and seeing as we've got a female protagonist in R/S/E- I don't want them to touch May. >:
That's a good point, I hope they keep Brendan & May and I hope they don't dramatically alternate their image, I understand the costume will be redone and I'd like to see that but as for the rest just keep the same. I'd also like to see Wallys image too, and well.. pretty much all the main characters in the game. I also agree that I'm pretty sure they will announce something either at the end of 2011 or beginning/into 2012 then follow up with a release for late 2012 early 2013.
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A redesign of May and Brendan might not be so bad. I would like something like this for them (minus the leggings|tights on Brendan) and in the Sapphire remake just make the red parts blue and make their bags red so it's opposite sort of like how it is here. It's Like the color and patterns of Groudon (Red with blue pattern) and Kyogre (Blue with red pattern).

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One of the funnier things that the person who traced those pictures forgot to notice, is that somewhere between 2002 and 2004, Sugimori suddenly stopped drawing his characters with incredibly thick legs.

If you compare with it's really noticeable (also note how his style went through another major change here). This doesn't apply to the sprites though, as the character sprites in Emerald are just edited ones from Ruby.