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If Pokemon Ruby & Pokemon Sapphire was remade, would you buy it?

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True but they could have been making them on separate teams during the creation of BW/2, also if they made two separate remakes rather than one it would pull in alot more money than one game would. Remember that Crystal's features were incorporated into HGSS so it's likely they'll do the same but with the announcement of B2W2 anything is possible really.

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Btw, seeing how B2/W2 are developed for DS, I doubt R/S remakes for 3DS because DS and 3DS are completely different systems in case of making games for them. They put a lot of technical references to R/S/E in B/W and B2/W2, so ignoring it and start making remakes from scratch for 3DS would be weird imo.
We have yet to have a main game for the 3ds so how do you know they couldn't communicate with each other?

Btw, references in BW and B2W2 does not guarantee them for the DS, they could be for either system, most likely the 3ds seeing as the ds is in it's twilight year kind of. Not entirely saying they couldn't be for the regular Ds, but it's a bit late for that, don't you think?
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We have yet to have a main game for the 3ds so how do you know they couldn't communicate with each other?

Btw, references in BW and B2W2 does not guarantee them for the DS, they could be for either system, most likely the 3ds seeing as the ds is in it's twilight year kind of. Not entirely saying they couldn't be for the regular Ds, but it's a bit late for that, don't you think?
In this year or even in next year, it wouldn't be late for DS, seeing how B2/W2 are for DS. Making game for 3DS would require making completely new graphic engine and I doubt they would introduce that new graphic engine in remakes. In the same way I doubted B2/W2 for 3DS because GF always makes new graphic engine for brand new region aka new generation. DS and 3DS are too different from each other to share games from the same generation.
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It's still really odd that it would just show up and they'd be like "oh god, Rayquaza is here, let's scram"; Especially seeing as how they were really disturbed by the powers of the orbs awakening them; it just doesn't seem like it would really have ended that way. I'm not saying you're wrong, but rather that that could be one of things they could freshin up if they make 2 games instead of one(to keep true to the originals) yet still have the big battle, with your mascot standing tall in the end. :P
But that's Rayquaza's role, to calm the battling Groudon and Kyogre. For whatever strange reason, Rayquaza's appearance or authority stops the fighting. Changing it takes away from Rayquaza's role as the trio master. There's no use in changing the stories of these games, GF isn't going to totally change the stories. They didn't do it with the first 2 sets of remakes, and they aren't going to change them if they remake these games. For HG/SS, all they did was add in the elements from Crystal, which did not change the story of the others. The only other thing they did was give Lugia and Ho-oh a bit more importance to the plot, though it was only a small addition as well.

True but they could have been making them on separate teams during the creation of BW/2, also if they made two separate remakes rather than one it would pull in alot more money than one game would. Remember that Crystal's features were incorporated into HGSS so it's likely they'll do the same but with the announcement of B2W2 anything is possible really.
Gold, Silver, and Crystal had the same basic story, same as Red, Blue, and Yellow. Crystal's story was extra. After you catch Suicune, you continue your main quest, just as it was in Gold and Silver. They simply added it to HG/SS because there was no conflict in the main storyline. That is different with R/S/E, as all 3 have totally different stories, which makes it extremely difficult to just say "Oh, we'll combine them!". No logical story would come from mashing together the 3 different stories of R/S/E, they'd do better to just use the 1 story that already involves all 3 Legends if everyone wants the Weather Crisis scene. If people can do without that scene, we'd get Ruby and Sapphire remakes.

In this year or even in next year, it wouldn't be late for DS, seeing how B2/W2 are for DS. Making game for 3DS would require making completely new graphic engine and I doubt they would introduce that new graphic engine in remakes. In the same way I doubted B2/W2 for 3DS because GF always makes new graphic engine for brand new region aka new generation. DS and 3DS are too different from each other to share games from the same generation.
Since B2/W2 won't be out in the states until at least fall, I doubt we'll see another Japanese release this year. It would all depend on how soon the games come out in the US. Still seems to be far too soon for brand new games since these aren't even out for another 2 months. Not to mention, we are overdue for a Wii Pokemon game for battling purposes. I think we might see one before the Wii U comes out, maybe.

Also, nothing suggests that R/S/E remakes will come in this generation. According to rumors, B2/W2 will be the last Pokemon games for the DS, meaning Pokemon will be making the jump to the 3DS. For that, I suspect we'd get Gen. 6 as it will be for a new system. (I highly doubt Pokemon's debut on the 3DS will be in the form of a remake.) Then, because the 3DS would make the GBA games obsolete, we'll get our remakes. My biggest belief on this is that the GBA originals have to become obsolete to the current generation before a remake is justified. Once Pokemon hits the 3DS, there will be an actual NEED for remakes of R/S/E!
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Ruby and Sapphire was the first generation I actually got into pokemon when I was little so I really wish they remake this. I mean the game was THE MOST diverse when it came to culture and environment. It was also the first generation to bring around evil teams who had motives to "change the world" kind of deal. If you noticed, the Hoenn pokemon sprites were revamped in Black and White, as if they are preparing the Hoenn pokemon for something… so I hope they go through with it.

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Since B2/W2 won't be out in the states until at least fall, I doubt we'll see another Japanese release this year. It would all depend on how soon the games come out in the US. Still seems to be far too soon for brand new games since these aren't even out for another 2 months. Not to mention, we are overdue for a Wii Pokemon game for battling purposes. I think we might see one before the Wii U comes out, maybe.
FR/LG got released in US 1 week before Emerald in Japan. So they could do similar thing in this year with releasing B2/W2 in US this Fall shortly before R/S remakes in Japan. Releasing R/S remakes in November on R/S 10th anniversary would make 5 months gap between them and B2/W2 which could be enough time. If remakes are not planned for this year, why would they release B2/W2 in Japan in June, instead of traditional Fall after promotional movie?

Also, nothing suggests that R/S/E remakes will come in this generation. According to rumors, B2/W2 will be the last Pokemon games for the DS, meaning Pokemon will be making the jump to the 3DS. For that, I suspect we'd get Gen. 6 as it will be for a new system. (I highly doubt Pokemon's debut on the 3DS will be in the form of a remake.) Then, because the 3DS would make the GBA games obsolete, we'll get our remakes. My biggest belief on this is that the GBA originals have to become obsolete to the current generation before a remake is justified. Once Pokemon hits the 3DS, there will be an actual NEED for remakes of R/S/E!
There are plenty of hints suggesting R/S remakes in 5 gen, I don't want to remind them for another time. R/S remakes could be made for DS, even though GBA versions are not obsolete yet, because release pattern got broken after making both gens 4 and 5 for the same console. Anyway, GBA versions are incompatible with DSi, DSi XL and 3DS. That would change after making remakes for DS.

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Soo just thought of something that hints to Hoenn remakes actually happening!

Basically if you look at Hilbert/Hilda from B/W, they look kinda like hikers, or "outdoors" type people, and if you look at the new protagonists from B2/W2, they look like they're people that are into water and swimming and stuff. So... from that, land/sea. What is R/S? Land/sea, basically, from Groudon/Kyogre. So logically next that'd follow would be the remakes definitely imoooooo. /crazy theory

...plus the fact that we now know Azurill aka Hoenn is on route 1 of B2/W2. :x

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I don't think Azurill has anything to do with it, but I do think you're on to something with the BW&2's protagonists. Although Hilda...WELL you know, I wouldn't hike in shorts that reveal my butt crack, but to each their own I suppose. You're still in the ball park with Hilbert looking like a hiker though.
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Has anybody seen this? Just translate it to english and read it for yourselves: http://twitter.com/#!/Junichi_Masuda/status/122941791392636928
Oh, and this got me convinced about a remake: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cc-rkV2DfV8

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Ah I still remember the day when I got the ruby, sapphire, and emerald cartridges for my birthday(s) when I was younger (Of course it just got released back then) and it was so mindblowing, I seriously hope they remodel the Mirage Tower in the remakes (If there is any) so to make it harder to get to the fossils.


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There are plenty of hints suggesting R/S remakes in 5 gen, I don't want to remind them for another time. R/S remakes could be made for DS, even though GBA versions are not obsolete yet, because release pattern got broken after making both gens 4 and 5 for the same console. Anyway, GBA versions are incompatible with DSi, DSi XL and 3DS. That would change after making remakes for DS.
Wouldn't that give them more reason to hold off on them?

Oh wait...I 'think' I might see what you're onto. Now that the original DS model is no longer in production, are you saying that with the Lite possibly being in its twilight(and maybe near its 'way out') that would make the Gba versions technically incompatible with what would still be in production(the original DSi model and onward, up 'til this gen's 3DS)?

/crazy overthinking

But that's Rayquaza's role, to calm the battling Groudon and Kyogre. For whatever strange reason, Rayquaza's appearance or authority stops the fighting. Changing it takes away from Rayquaza's role as the trio master. There's no use in changing the stories of these games, GF isn't going to totally change the stories. They didn't do it with the first 2 sets of remakes, and they aren't going to change them if they remake these games. For HG/SS, all they did was add in the elements from Crystal, which did not change the story of the others. The only other thing they did was give Lugia and Ho-oh a bit more importance to the plot, though it was only a small addition as well.
You basically try to drop the main comparison between the two sets, yet justify it now with how the story is? Even you admitted how different the two scenarios are.

They don't want to make the exact same games and I'm sure they'd try to reason this time(keeping the basics of the originals, yet try to blend with the last) more than anything. Some of the questions they probably could be thinking over(in what we're discussing, not saying that they are of course):

- Why make just one Em version when we could still profit off of 2 games?
- Why make two versions of R+S and drop all the stuff from E that we worked really hard with to try and make a better story?

This is why I think they would want to compromise with the first 2 versions and the 3rd(which is why some of us have been thinking up ways they could, without destroying everything). I wasn't using what I said to try to create even more havoc, just was thinking of how they could mix it up(moreso with the Sootopolis confrontation; one of the main issues) while letting your mascot shine. Wouldn't doing this(the mix in general) create a new experience, rather than make just RS or just Em(along with whatever else they could include)?

Not completely throwing your ideas out of my mind, as we all know anything could happen at this point...just looking at how they could work out 2 games this time.
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Has anybody seen this? Just translate it to english and read it for yourselves: http://twitter.com/#!/Junichi_Masuda/status/122941791392636928
Oh, and this got me convinced about a remake: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cc-rkV2DfV8
They already gave a full translation to that. All Masuda did was thank the fan for liking the game series because it was an important series for him when he worked on it.
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Oh wait...I 'think' I might see what you're onto. Now that the original DS model is no longer in production, are you saying that with the Lite possibly being in its twilight(and maybe near its 'way out') that would make the Gba versions technically incompatible with what would still be in production(the original DSi model and onward, up 'til this gen's 3DS)?
There are rumors saying that DS Lite is already no longer in production. Even if it's still in production, there are lots of "new" people who started their gaming with DSi or onward and they're not going to get older consoles. For those people GBA era doesn't exist. That's why I think remakes should be done for DS family, not 3DS, to take care of that DSi or onward owners. It's the same like HG/SS were made for DS because GBC era doesn't exist for people who started gaming with DS.

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There are rumors saying that DS Lite is already no longer in production. Even if it's still in production, there are lots of "new" people who started their gaming with DSi or onward and they're not going to get older consoles. For those people GBA era doesn't exist. That's why I think remakes should be done for DS family, not 3DS, to take care of that DSi or onward owners. It's the same like HG/SS were made for DS because GBC era doesn't exist for people who started gaming with DS.
That's what I was saying, haha, other than the "what they're made for" part. I'd actually rather them wait if it means them being on the 3DS though(aside from the fact that Hoenn's nature feel could really benefit from it even more); we've already had our DS remake. That's just my opinion though, anything could happen.
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That's what I was saying, haha, other than the "what they're made for" part. I'd actually rather them wait if it means them being on the 3DS though(aside from the fact that Hoenn's nature feel could really benefit from it even more); we've already had our DS remake. That's just my opinion though, anything could happen.
Every region's feel would benefit from better graphics, that's not really fair reason to keep waiting. It's highly doubtful they would jump into 3DS with remakes because imo 3DS is reserved for 6 gen and R/S remakes are more likely to be in 5 gen, looking at all those hints in B/W.

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Every region's feel would benefit from better graphics, that's not really fair reason to keep waiting. It's highly doubtful they would jump into 3DS with remakes because imo 3DS is reserved for 6 gen and R/S remakes are more likely to be in 5 gen, looking at all those hints in B/W.
I was meaning with Hoenn being the 'nature' region, a real 3D environment would seem more fitting in a remake; wasn't knocking the idea that it could be on the DS.

If it happens to be on the DS though, I REALLY hope they implement some kind of extras for the 3DS though(like the leaves blowing in BW could have used, etc). That would be enough to hold off on til the next/full 3DS gen. At least something as a benefit for being anyone who has one.

Btw, hints have nothing to do with how soon something comes out. All we know is that they will likely come out in the future, no indication on when. An example would be how they had to wait 2 gens(~7 years) to implement the idea of 'seeing pokemon dreams'(even though we didn't know that would come then, they obviously had the idea for quite a while). Once again, I'm not knocking down what you said fully, I'm saying that we have nothing that indicates they will be soon either.
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Btw, hints have nothing to do with how soon something comes out. All we know is that they will likely come out in the future, no indication on when. An example would be how they had to wait 2 gens(~7 years) to implement the idea of 'seeing pokemon dreams'(even though we didn't know that would come then, they obviously had the idea for quite a while). Once again, I'm not knocking down what you said fully, I'm saying that we have nothing that indicates they will be soon either.
True, hints don't indicate when something will happen, but we have to look at other issues. Imo new gen for 3DS should be made as soon as possible, the best in next year because 3DS needs exclusive main games for better selling. That means the need of quicker ending of 5 gen. That's why I see R/S remakes being released in Japan for DS in this year's November and for the rest of world around March 2013. I don't see remakes being 3DS exclusives because of reasons mentioned before.

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I'm hoping that Ruby & Sapphire do get remade because I'll be honest I have my doubts, I'm very optimistic about these remakes but sometimes something tells me that we won't be seeing them, Red & Blue were necessary because let's face it, there was no way to trade over once Gen IV came into the picture and same goes for Gold & Silver, I'm not ruling RS remakes out but there are factors that support and are against it. We do have the rest of 2012 & 2013 which gives plenty of time for them to announce and release them but I'm not going to build my hopes up too high as I'm not 100% certain as is anyone, I just hope that they make the right decision as remakes would be the best Pokémon games out of the lot for me.

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True, hints don't indicate when something will happen, but we have to look at other issues. Imo new gen for 3DS should be made as soon as possible, the best in next year because 3DS needs exclusive main games for better selling. That means the need of quicker ending of 5 gen. That's why I see R/S remakes being released in Japan for DS in this year's November and for the rest of world around March 2013. I don't see remakes being 3DS exclusives because of reasons mentioned before.
I mean it would make sense like that, with them putting out B2 and W2 so early, then getting RSE remakes at the end of the year(Jap based date here, fall and spring respectively elsewhere) for the usual area of release and the anniversary and all; What a year this would be if that occurred. O.O

I don't know what to lean toward now though. I just kind of hoped they would be for the 3DS, but I guess I wouldn't mind them being on the....*tries so hard not to say it* DS. Still find that a scary thought.
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What a year this would be if that occurred. O.O
Maybe that's why Mayans predicted this year to be special one? xD



I'm hoping that Ruby & Sapphire do get remade because I'll be honest I have my doubts, I'm very optimistic about these remakes but sometimes something tells me that we won't be seeing them, Red & Blue were necessary because let's face it, there was no way to trade over once Gen IV came into the picture and same goes for Gold & Silver, I'm not ruling RS remakes out but there are factors that support and are against it.
I don't have doubts about those remakes because of what I posted before about DSi and onward models making GBA games obsolete, making much sense to create and sell DS versions of R/S for everyone who started gaming from DSi or onward.

Btw, there is something imo very important hinting to remakes. I think since gen 3 all new games have music remixed from games planned to be remade:
R/S have R/B/Y's S.S. Anne remix in Oceanic Museum.
D/P have G/S/C's ending remix in Canalave City and Lighthouse/Mt. Silver in Gym Leader theme (listen carefully to notice that).

B/W have Hoenn's Elite Four included in Unova's Elite Four theme, but not only that. I compared R/S/E and B/W Gym Leader themes and they are surprisingly similar in composition. They can be divided into identical parts.



1.intro (0.00 – 0.12), 2. main part (0.13 – 0.42), 3. quiet part (0.43 – 0.49), 4. quiet part getting louder (0.50 – 1.06), 5. quieter part again with repetitive sounds (1.07 – 1.16), 6. main part again from 1.17 and looping with quiet parts.





For B/W all parts are the same but with different times.
1.intro (0.00 – 0.15), 2. main part (0.16 – 1.02), 3. quiet part (1.03 – 1.13), 4. quiet part getting louder (1.13 – 1.24), 5. quieter part again with repetitive sounds (1.24 – 1.29), 6. main part again from 1.30 and looping with quiet parts.
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I don't have doubts about those remakes because of what I posted before about DSi and onward models making GBA games obsolete, making much sense to create and sell DS versions of R/S for everyone who started gaming from DSi or onward.
Why would they be promoting the DSi though? That makes no sense. Their main focus right now would be to convince fans to buy the 3DS. Proof of this is found in Pokemon AR Searcher. This game is clearly a suggestion from GF and Nintendo that fans need to go ahead and buy a 3DS if they don't have one already. I think this is also a sign that the next main-series Pokemon games will be for the 3DS, not one of the older models.
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Why would they be promoting the DSi though? That makes no sense. Their main focus right now would be to convince fans to buy the 3DS. Proof of this is found in Pokemon AR Searcher. This game is clearly a suggestion from GF and Nintendo that fans need to go ahead and buy a 3DS if they don't have one already. I think this is also a sign that the next main-series Pokemon games will be for the 3DS, not one of the older models.
I don't think Gamefreak is responsible for the AR searcher. GameFreak as of now is still centering on the DS series, while all other Nintendo affiliated companies have started switching to 3DS components. So far only one Spin off wasn't 3DS and that was Pokemon Conquest, while the others are on the 3DS, Rumble Blast, AR searcher, and the two Pokedexes.

Nintendo wants to promote 3DS but they won't force a company to halt the production of something they were already working on to switch it to a different system. They are a lot nicer to their development companies than bot Sony and Microsoft are in this regard.

If the Remakes were in production before Gamefreak received the 3DS kit, then there is the chance it will be one of the last titles for the DS with 3DS features similar to how B2W2 will link to the AR Searcher.

Though with Spot Pass, the Remakes would fair a lot better. Seeing as the original Mixing of Records was done in the R/S/E/LG/FR series of games. If they bring back secret bases the same way they were in Emerald, Spot Pass would allow for effortless Record mixing and you could search the world for other trainers that you randomly passed as their records would be added to your game through the Spot pass Feature.

There are other things that could be enhanced through Spot pass as well.

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Though with Spot Pass, the Remakes would fair a lot better. Seeing as the original Mixing of Records was done in the R/S/E/LG/FR series of games. If they bring back secret bases the same way they were in Emerald, Spot Pass would allow for effortless Record mixing and you could search the world for other trainers that you randomly passed as their records would be added to your game through the Spot pass Feature.
I like this, but hopefully unlike the originals, it won't have a limit of how many bases you can have in your game. But then again, it would suck to want to switch bases and have someone you walked past in the spot you want. Hmmm.
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