What punk/goth/emo/etc. really is?

Started by Fxcking Tatertots April 28th, 2010 7:16 PM
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I've noticed a problem between those genres of music.

One side are the people who like the newer stuff, and on the other, the purists who deny that those artists are in said genre of their fandom. I've seen huge flamewars due to the two camps' differing opinions. I can honestly say that this is an extremely valid question, because it confuses me.


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Age 34
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Punk is bands like AFI, The Distillers and Greenday.
Goth is bands like Switchblade Symphony, Tears for the Dying and even The Cure (believe it or not)
Emo is bands like Dashboard Confessional, Mayday Parade and Saosin.

I listed a few bands that I could think of off the top of my head.
I pondered this a while back, before I was educated on the difference, I believe you'll be able to source out my examples if you looked hard enough.
Emo, despite what the general consensus regarding the style is, happens to be my favourite genre of music, according to what the bands I really love are listed as.
- To survive, you would have to be as mad as a hatter...
Which thankfully, I am.


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Punk is bands like AFI, The Distillers and Greenday.
Goth is bands like Switchblade Symphony, Tears for the Dying and even The Cure (believe it or not)
Emo is bands like Dashboard Confessional, Mayday Parade and Saosin.

I listed a few bands that I could think of off the top of my head.
I pondered this a while back, before I was educated on the difference, I believe you'll be able to source out my examples if you looked hard enough.
Emo, despite what the general consensus regarding the style is, happens to be my favourite genre of music, according to what the bands I really love are listed as.
Those are the newer stuff of the genre. Watch when someone barges in and says OMG [insert band here] ISN'T [insert genre here] DEY R POZURZ!!!1ONEELEVEN!1!"
That is one of the reasons why I don't participate in the so-called "alternative culture" anymore. :[
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I really dont care for goth rock personally, I think its all rubbish.
As far as punk goes, Sex Pistols are outright winners for one of the originals of the genre.
And emo, there arent actually any purebreed emo bands anymore I dont think, some are emo/punk, emo/pop, emo/alternative etc etc.
Its really hard to define. People need to get over it though really, its music, its made for peoples enjoyment more than anything else. Just enjoy it for what it is I say.
- To survive, you would have to be as mad as a hatter...
Which thankfully, I am.


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Exactly. People are always fighting of what band is of what genre. Sure, it's one thing when a person considers Rancid punk, but another if Britney Spears is metal. Last.FM is funny that way.

Is it funny that I almost read "winners" as "whiners"? Since most punks tend to whine about "mainstream" society a whole lot.
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I dont believe there is such a thing as true punk anymore. Its true meaning died out years ago.
I have a $20,000 music collection, that covers, cds, dvds, records, 8tracks and other various cassette tapes.
Music is music to me. Its not made by these artists so morons that think they know everything about music can categorise them.
Its made to be enjoyed and appreciated by the masses that it appeals to. Nothing more, nothing less.
- To survive, you would have to be as mad as a hatter...
Which thankfully, I am.


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PuNkSter

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This is the thing with genres. People base bands on what their image is instead of their music. Then there are sub-genres that make this even more confusing. I don't like labeling bands "Emo" or "Goth". But people have different opinions. People who were born or appreciate bands that derived early from these genres will say Sex Pistols is Punk, Sunny Day Real Estate is Emo, The Cure is Goth etc. to those who like the newer bands and will say this band is that etc(you get the point). Then the outraging begins of what Emo is.
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There are lists on Wikipedia, for examples of punk, goth and emo bands.
I wont link because you said no links, but if you're interested, they are on there.
And I was 100% right, as it were.
- To survive, you would have to be as mad as a hatter...
Which thankfully, I am.


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seeker

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In my opinion, this oral conflict between what band is which genre is pretty redundant. I say this because there's hundreds of genres and in my mind, half of them just seem pointless and as if they've just been made up. In my personal experiance, I've seen "Post-Grunge" tagged to one band, ever. You could say this about a lot of stuff, like trying to define between hard rock and metal and heavy metal and the like -just taking that as an easy example-.
When you say goth, as far as I can remember, Gothic is both a fashion sense and a way of defining a paticular style of architecture. There's some gothic writing too.
But this is excactly what I mean, it seems crazy to me to have so many genres to begin with. There should maybe 20 or 30 official genres in which anything that can't be put under a heading -which is unlikely if you have 30 genres- entitled "Alternative".
Punk has been around for ages though, Sex Pistols, emo is another fad which has begun to die out but again, has been around since the 80's, a note on that "genre" also, emo is a slang genre which derived from the groups of people who listened to a paticular band. Take MCR, they undertook the "Emo" genre when they realised that they could get groups of people to respect that and in turn make more money. Don't mean to be sterotypical but that's the way it's gone.
As I say, genres shouldn't cause conflictual debates, it's just another tag on the iTunes search box.

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A lot of people say that The Cure is goth, but others say it's New Wave or whatever.
Emo is the worst so far in terms of labelling. Oh, the flamewars I've seen.

"My Chemical Romance!" "No, Orchid!" >_>

Lmao, so true. Since when was MCR Emo?

People label things so easily these days, it angers me sometimes..

seeker

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Lmao, so true. Since when was MCR Emo?
Genres Alternative rock[1]
Emo[2]
Pop punk[1]
Post-hardcore[3]
I'd say it was after their album "The Black Parade" though, it came across as being slightly "Emo" and hense they received the tag. Then again, I'm not sure how long they've had the genre but that would just be my estimation.
Emo music was a big marketing niche a few years back also, keep that in mind, so you could probably blame the producers/label for that one.
Music is a multi-billion dollor industry, there's not a lot they can't do in regard to music, adding extra genres that might not make sense could just be a way of selling albums. It may sound simple but then again, we're not the ones with the qualifications I suppose.