Is Windows XP Obselete? Page 6

Started by Dawn May 13th, 2010 5:55 AM
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Hey guys I just want you to know I'm on windows ME, and have an 8 bit monitor with 16MB of RAM, it's all you need and you kids and your fancy machines are expensive. I have no clue what Team Fortress is like but it surely can't beat pong!
Anyways I have to go, my dial up is holding up the phone and I'm expecting a call about my Nintendo 64 RAM Expander.

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Hey guys I just want you to know I'm on windows ME, and have an 8 bit monitor with 16MB of RAM, it's all you need and you kids and your fancy machines are expensive. I have no clue what Team Fortress is like but it surely can't beat pong!
Anyways I have to go, my dial up is holding up the phone and I'm expecting a call about my Nintendo 64 RAM Expander.
Oh you get back here you dastard! I'm going to break out Windows 3.1 and get minimalist all over your basement!
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Bolded my reasons to why I don't want 7. Besides, 256MB RAM is just enough for me and Photoshop *hugs* Also, 7 won't even install on my system, it needs 1GHz to run. I have 1.15GHz.

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My friend didn't get The Neverhood running on his 64bit version, but on my 32bit XP it works fine. Guess what? The game is from 1994!
64-bit Windows XP is terrible.

Mine is secure even against my own virus tests
Oh boy, here we go. And you scoff at UAC. Unless you do penetration testing or hacking for a living, I doubt your "tests" mean anything. People that scoff at security measures really are the easiest to hack; I know this personally.

XP supports 10 and 11 on my PC.
Nope. It doesn't. You're wrong. DX10 and DX11 aren't available for XP. There are hacks to make games think they are, but they mostly redirect calls to DX10/11 functions to similar (but slower and not as good) DX9 ones.
And I should care... why?
Because you won't be able to use newer programs. Of course, if you want to have Windows 3.1-like compatibility with applications, nobody's going to stop you.

Yawn, 98 and XP aren't supported, why should I care about 7? It'll last about 6 years.
Then use it for six years. If you're still using 98, you must not have a lot of computer needs.
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No, it's not obselete, I still need it to play GBA and PSX games.
But XP really is slow, and 7 is most probably the best computer out of
XP, Vista and 7 itself.
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No, it's not obselete, I still need it to play GBA and PSX games.
But XP really is slow, and 7 is most probably the best computer out of
XP, Vista and 7 itself.
What? Emulators run on Windows Vista and Windows 7 just fine.
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What? Emulators run on Windows Vista and Windows 7 just fine.
You can basically ignore any comments saying the common software won't run. And who was smart enough to say that Photoshop only needs 256MB ram? How old could the version be?

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Hey guys I just want you to know I'm on windows ME, and have an 8 bit monitor with 16MB of RAM, it's all you need and you kids and your fancy machines are expensive. I have no clue what Team Fortress is like but it surely can't beat pong!
Anyways I have to go, my dial up is holding up the phone and I'm expecting a call about my Nintendo 64 RAM Expander.
Needs more Monkey Island games.


So what you're saying is that XP wasn't obsolete back when XP wasn't obsolete? I think I agree, and furthermore, I think we should all talk about how old technology wasn't old when it wasn't old. Have you seen the new (decades ago) DOS 6.22? Oh man, it's got some cool new (decades ago) features. I hear it can even support the new (decades ago) Windows interface, it's great for productivity (decades ago)!
And Linux was a poor man's Unix. Though now Linux just beats Unix by doing what Unix can do and more.
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You can basically ignore any comments saying the common software won't run. And who was smart enough to say that Photoshop only needs 256MB ram? How old could the version be?
I have Photoshop CS on my computer. I also can use Google Chrome, too.

Now YouTube is a problem. Can't even access that bastard.
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Besides, 256MB RAM is just enough for me and Photoshop
Trying to run that morbidly obese program on ANYTHING below the maximum is a sure sign that you are a sick masochist. XD
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Add in Google Chrome, Windows Explorer, and Windows Media Player (due to WinAMP not functioning with YouTube) and you get a computer that's slow as hell.

Oh, and I have a drawing pad connected too!
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My colleague Preston Gralla came up with seven reasons to move to Windows 7. And, they are pretty good, but good enough to switch away from XP, or to skip Mac OS X Snow Leopard or desktop Linux? I don't think so. Let me open up by saying though that if you're using Vista-you poor, poor person-yes, you should migrate to Windows 7. After all, Windows 7 is really just Vista without the warts. Otherwise, no, I don't see any compelling reason to switch.
I say this as someone who's also been running Windows 7 since the late betas and I'm currently running the RTM (release to manufacturing) version. I like Windows 7, but if you were to ask me what the big feature, the 'wow' that would make you want to go to the trouble of moving to Windows 7, I'd be left without anything to say. Heck, look at Gralla list, number one on the list is the new taskbar. Microsoft wants me to spend big bucks for a new taskbar!?
OK, on with the list.
1) Windows 7 still has all the security of a drunken teenager in a sports car. From Windows for Workgroups and NT 3 until today, Windows is a security joke. It used to be that running Windows just put your head into the noose. Now, millions of lazy Windows users are the reason why the Internet is a mess. If you already do all the right things to keep XP running safely, you're not going to get any safer by buying Windows 7.
2) Windows 7, no matter how you buy it, is expensive. Does your budget have the extra cash to buy a new and improved taskbar!?
3) Upgrading from XP to Windows 7 will require that you do a clean install. That means everything on your hard disk gets vaporized during the 'upgrade." Vista users have it easier. So long as they're moving from equivalent version to equivalent version or to Windows 7 Ultimate they can update without needing to rebuild their systems.
There are lots of ways, like Microsoft's own Windows Easy Transfer and I'm sure there will be many more, to migrate your data from your old system to your new one, but all of them take work. If you have a business with dozens to tens-of-thousands of Windows PCs you can count on a honking, huge upgrade bill.
4) Did you notice what I didn't say above? I didn't mention transferring your old programs and device drivers from XP to Windows 7. For that, Easy Transfer and most of the first generation of migration programs are of no help at all. You'll need to reinstall your old programs and device drivers. Then, you'll need to update all those programs and drivers. Doesn't that sound like fun? Doesn't that sound like hour after hour per PC of migration work?
5) XP already works. I can tell you chapter and verse on why you'd be better off running desktop Linux or put a Mac on your desk. Most of you though are happy running XP. If that's you, I'll be darned if I can think of a single, significant change that you'll get from running Windows 7 instead of XP.
6) If you're an XP user you'll need to learn a new user interface. Parri Munsell, Microsoft's Director of Consumer Product Management for Windows, has been fond of saying, "Our goal was to make the UI (user interface) in Windows 7 much easier to navigate." OK, I'd agree. It is a bit better.
But, I'm someone who switches operating system interfaces as often as most of you go out to get a pizza. I asked some friends who were XP stalwarts what they thought about the interface. They all thought it was pretty, but, they also all found it annoying to work with since they had to re-learn how to do XP basics. Vista users will have it easier, but XP users can expect to have a learning curve with the new UI.
And, once more, I find myself asking, "Is there anything here that's really a solid improvement on XP?" Or, to get brass tacks, if I'm a CFO or CIO, I want to know what I'm going to get out of re-training people to the new interface and I'm left thinking there's really nothing game-changing about the Windows 7 UI.
7) Finally, if you have an older PC, forget about it. I know there are people who swear that Windows 7 will run on low-powered PCs. Yeah, right. I've used Windows 7 on netbooks. It wasn't pretty. Windows 7 Starter Edition? Microsoft won't sell it to you.
Bottom line. If you want something that's really better than XP, and you're willing to go to the trouble and expense of moving from one platform to another, you'll get real improvements like better security and low up-front costs, from a desktop Linux like SLED (SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop) 11 or Ubuntu 9.04. Windows 7 is certainly better than Vista, but XP... not so much.

some of the reasons why i dont like 7. read and then talk because like it says right there 7 isnt all that is cracked up to be.also if it aint broke dont fix it.
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My colleague Preston Gralla came up with seven reasons to move to Windows 7. And, they are pretty good, but good enough to switch away from XP, or to skip Mac OS X Snow Leopard or desktop Linux? I don't think so. Let me open up by saying though that if you're using Vista-you poor, poor person-yes, you should migrate to Windows 7. After all, Windows 7 is really just Vista without the warts. Otherwise, no, I don't see any compelling reason to switch.
I say this as someone who's also been running Windows 7 since the late betas and I'm currently running the RTM (release to manufacturing) version. I like Windows 7, but if you were to ask me what the big feature, the 'wow' that would make you want to go to the trouble of moving to Windows 7, I'd be left without anything to say. Heck, look at Gralla list, number one on the list is the new taskbar. Microsoft wants me to spend big bucks for a new taskbar!?
OK, on with the list.
1) Windows 7 still has all the security of a drunken teenager in a sports car. From Windows for Workgroups and NT 3 until today, Windows is a security joke. It used to be that running Windows just put your head into the noose. Now, millions of lazy Windows users are the reason why the Internet is a mess. If you already do all the right things to keep XP running safely, you're not going to get any safer by buying Windows 7.
2) Windows 7, no matter how you buy it, is expensive. Does your budget have the extra cash to buy a new and improved taskbar!?
3) Upgrading from XP to Windows 7 will require that you do a clean install. That means everything on your hard disk gets vaporized during the 'upgrade." Vista users have it easier. So long as they're moving from equivalent version to equivalent version or to Windows 7 Ultimate they can update without needing to rebuild their systems.
There are lots of ways, like Microsoft's own Windows Easy Transfer and I'm sure there will be many more, to migrate your data from your old system to your new one, but all of them take work. If you have a business with dozens to tens-of-thousands of Windows PCs you can count on a honking, huge upgrade bill.
4) Did you notice what I didn't say above? I didn't mention transferring your old programs and device drivers from XP to Windows 7. For that, Easy Transfer and most of the first generation of migration programs are of no help at all. You'll need to reinstall your old programs and device drivers. Then, you'll need to update all those programs and drivers. Doesn't that sound like fun? Doesn't that sound like hour after hour per PC of migration work?
5) XP already works. I can tell you chapter and verse on why you'd be better off running desktop Linux or put a Mac on your desk. Most of you though are happy running XP. If that's you, I'll be darned if I can think of a single, significant change that you'll get from running Windows 7 instead of XP.
6) If you're an XP user you'll need to learn a new user interface. Parri Munsell, Microsoft's Director of Consumer Product Management for Windows, has been fond of saying, "Our goal was to make the UI (user interface) in Windows 7 much easier to navigate." OK, I'd agree. It is a bit better.
But, I'm someone who switches operating system interfaces as often as most of you go out to get a pizza. I asked some friends who were XP stalwarts what they thought about the interface. They all thought it was pretty, but, they also all found it annoying to work with since they had to re-learn how to do XP basics. Vista users will have it easier, but XP users can expect to have a learning curve with the new UI.
And, once more, I find myself asking, "Is there anything here that's really a solid improvement on XP?" Or, to get brass tacks, if I'm a CFO or CIO, I want to know what I'm going to get out of re-training people to the new interface and I'm left thinking there's really nothing game-changing about the Windows 7 UI.
7) Finally, if you have an older PC, forget about it. I know there are people who swear that Windows 7 will run on low-powered PCs. Yeah, right. I've used Windows 7 on netbooks. It wasn't pretty. Windows 7 Starter Edition? Microsoft won't sell it to you.
Bottom line. If you want something that's really better than XP, and you're willing to go to the trouble and expense of moving from one platform to another, you'll get real improvements like better security and low up-front costs, from a desktop Linux like SLED (SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop) 11 or Ubuntu 9.04. Windows 7 is certainly better than Vista, but XP... not so much.

some of the reasons why i dont like 7. read and then talk because like it says right there 7 isnt all that is cracked up to be.also if it aint broke dont fix it.
Perhaps you should cite your source, I don't like to have to Google for it.

As some of the comments in that article pointed out, a lot of that is bull. He makes no effort to back up any of his claims. Windows 7 less secure? Now there's a joke. XP is a festering wound in the internet, and Vista and 7 are endlessly ahead in terms of security. In terms of price, it's not that hard to get it free or for a reduced price.

I'm not sure whether the clean install statement is accurate, but even if it is, it shouldn't be a big deal if you made a data partition and can write down a quick list of software to reinstall (and lol at the implication that businesses still keep data on the same partition, or even hard drive, as the OS).

His argument that it "just works" explains itself, but I'll add something on. DOS "just worked," and Windows 3.1 "just worked." That doesn't mean there wasn't a compelling reason to upgrade. I can think of several reasons to upgrade to Windows 7, some of which I have already mentioned.

He even admits the Windows 7 interface is better before going on to assume that the person reading the article is as stupid as he is and can't figure out a slightly different interface (that, for the record, you can easily make look like the old one).

The way he makes his "argument," it's almost like he got that one sentence backward. Perhaps it should have read like this.
Let me open up by saying though that if you're using XP-you poor, poor person-yes, you should migrate to Windows 7. After all, Windows 7 is really just Vista with a few nice changes, so why bother upgrading a Vista computer?
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Microsoft wants me to spend big bucks for a new taskbar!?
No. :\

1) Windows 7 still has all the security of a drunken teenager in a sports car. If you already do all the right things to keep XP running safely, you're not going to get any safer by buying Windows 7.
Windows 7 has more native security than XP, and will continue to get more, unlike XP. This is factual, not opinionated you know. If I need to, I can list these security features and how they protect the system.

Does your budget have the extra cash to buy a new and improved taskbar!?
Yes, because that's completely irrelevant to buying Windows 7. Getting a new and improved taskbar is practically free with mods.

3) Upgrading from XP to Windows 7 will require that you do a clean install. That means everything on your hard disk gets vaporized during the 'upgrade."
Lie. Windows 7 supports a Custom Install without a reformat. No files are lost.

5) XP already works.
So does 3.1

7) Finally, if you have an older PC, forget about it. I know there are people who swear that Windows 7 will run on low-powered PCs. Yeah, right. I've used Windows 7 on netbooks. It wasn't pretty. Windows 7 Starter Edition? Microsoft won't sell it to you.
Bottom line. If you want something that's really better than XP, and you're willing to go to the trouble and expense of moving from one platform to another, you'll get real improvements like better security and low up-front costs, from a desktop Linux like SLED (SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop) 11 or Ubuntu 9.04. Windows 7 is certainly better than Vista, but XP... not so much.
You can't be a gamer, a minimalist, and also try and run Linux. >>

Seriously dude, you can't argue that XP is as good as or better than Windows 7. That's just ridiculous. This is about whether XP is obsolete.
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I sure wish my school would get 7 already (they upgrade the Macs constantly, so why can't they at least do something for the PCs? It's like my middle school and how they'd upgrade Macs and then downgraded their PCs to 95 at around the time of XP's beginnings >.>). I have 7 at home, but they have XP still, and the differences are glaring. I'm at home most often and only use the PCs at school to work on Maya because my laptop can't handle it. I'm used to the ease of workflow that 7 has, but then I go to the lab and it's just... ugh. I sit there thinking the whole time about how old and unwieldy XP is in the face of 7.

It's not Vista, so I don't see any reason to continue to hesitate with upgrading. Plus, it's college. There's no ancient stuff of questionable compatibility to be run when the point is to teach up-to-date, big name software to keep students current for when they graduate.




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you completely lost the point of the post if you read closely it states that "If you already do all the right things to keep XP running safely, you're not going to get any safer by buying Windows 7. " though its just a lil safer the post already says it.also did you read a lil forward"There are lots of ways, like Microsoft's own Windows Easy Transfer and I'm sure there will be many more, to migrate your data from your old system to your new one, but all of them take work. If you have a business with dozens to tens-of-thousands of Windows PCs you can count on a honking, huge upgrade bill." it doesn't say that its impossible it says that it requires work.Also you are practicly just spending big bucks for a taskbar xp already work perfectly and doesn't make a difference if you use 7 it says that your safer but if you have bad internet habits you are not safer than xp neither less safer you are equally safe they all get viruses and win7 viruses are a bad bad thing.Also dont start saying gaming cuz 7 has horrible audio,if you notice lots of users get problems with the jacks or the audio being laggy or choppy im just saying dont know if its true.In a final note what im trying to say is that if your upgrading to 7 because you have viruses well then fix your internet habits cuz i dont get any viruses and haven't gotten 1 for 7 years so its not safer if you move to 7 you just have less probability at spyware big deal. my xp is working perfectly and i dont need to change it so i would recommend ppl who dont have any problems with xp to stick to it 7 will not make the "safer" thing better it will make you think you are safer thats it cuz i had 7 i downloaded most of the stuff i got now and my 7 crashed on me i had to restore her by pressing f5 and doing some steps to actually boot her 5 hours later and ive almost filled the hard drive and yet no virusesso sorry but 7 doesnt make a big diff from xp if you know how to use it.
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tl;dr because of massive wall of text with terrible spacing and minimal punctuation: The person you quoted obviously hasn't tried to intentional break both 7 and XP. Even with just passive efforts on my part (via modified browsing habits) to infect Windows 7 and Windows XP, Windows 7 showed significantly more resilience to infection. And Windows 7 can use the improved security features that many antivirus programs already have that are designed with security features Vista or 7 in mind, that wouldn't work in XP as it doesn't have the improved security features.

Though as always, browsing the internet without antivirus and antispyware software is like sleeping around with a litany of people who have an 80% chance of having STDs and not using a condom. Browsing on XP, however, is like using a cheap, three-year-old, brittle condom and not expecting it to break on you mid-coitus, whereas browsing with 7 is like using a fresh condom.
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you completely lost the point of the post if you read closely it states that "If you already do all the right things to keep XP running safely, you're not going to get any safer by buying Windows 7. " though its just a lil safer
Wrong. It's a LOT safer. Once again, there are specific technologies with specific functions that can be listed out here in TL;DR fashion if you want to argue this point.

Do you have any idea what ASLR is?

the post already says it.also did you read a lil forward"There are lots of ways, like Microsoft's own Windows Easy Transfer and I'm sure there will be many more, to migrate your data from your old system to your new one, but all of them take work. If you have a business with dozens to tens-of-thousands of Windows PCs you can count on a honking, huge upgrade bill." it doesn't say that its impossible it says that it requires work.
It doesn't really take work. See what you XP users fail to realize is that installing an OS and reformatting the hard drive are two very different things. XP automatically reformat before installing. Windows 7 does not have to, and all files are perfectly preserved without any hassle. The only downside is that you will have to reinstall any programs, which is the only advantage of an upgrade.

Also you are practicly just spending big bucks for a taskbar xp already work perfectly and doesn't make a difference if you use 7 it says that your safer but if you have bad internet habits you are not safer than xp
So help me if you call Windows 7 just a taskbar again... :cer_pissed: NOT cool, or correct. Also, you are in fact safer using Windows 7 with bad habbits than using XP with bad habbits. Once again, 7 has more native security. Ever heard of DEP?

cuz 7 has horrible audio, if you notice lots of users get problems with the jacks or the audio being laggy or choppy im just saying dont know if its true.
That's not related to the Operating System. That is related to poor audio hardware. Windows 7 has a lot of good basic drivers to come with. If anything, audio is better on Windows 7.

For instance, when I bought my machine with XP on it, I bought some nice high definition audio speakers. I had to go to the manufacturer's website and download and install the driver before they worked.

When I took the same speakers and plugged them into a Windows 7 Machine, they automatically installed without me having to do ANYTHING more than plug them in and began working.
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you completely lost the point of the post if you read closely it states that "If you already do all the right things to keep XP running safely, you're not going to get any safer by buying Windows 7. " though its just a lil safer the post already says it.also did you read a lil forward"There are lots of ways, like Microsoft's own Windows Easy Transfer and I'm sure there will be many more, to migrate your data from your old system to your new one, but all of them take work. If you have a business with dozens to tens-of-thousands of Windows PCs you can count on a honking, huge upgrade bill." it doesn't say that its impossible it says that it requires work.Also you are practicly just spending big bucks for a taskbar xp already work perfectly and doesn't make a difference if you use 7 it says that your safer but if you have bad internet habits you are not safer than xp neither less safer you are equally safe they all get viruses and win7 viruses are a bad bad thing.Also dont start saying gaming cuz 7 has horrible audio,if you notice lots of users get problems with the jacks or the audio being laggy or choppy im just saying dont know if its true.In a final note what im trying to say is that if your upgrading to 7 because you have viruses well then fix your internet habits cuz i dont get any viruses and haven't gotten 1 for 7 years so its not safer if you move to 7 you just have less probability at spyware big deal. my xp is working perfectly and i dont need to change it so i would recommend ppl who dont have any problems with xp to stick to it 7 will not make the "safer" thing better it will make you think you are safer thats it cuz i had 7 i downloaded most of the stuff i got now and my 7 crashed on me i had to restore her by pressing f5 and doing some steps to actually boot her 5 hours later and ive almost filled the hard drive and yet no virusesso sorry but 7 doesnt make a big diff from xp if you know how to use it.
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tl;dr because of massive wall of text with terrible spacing and minimal punctuation: The person you quoted obviously hasn't tried to intentional break both 7 and XP. Even with just passive efforts on my part (via modified browsing habits) to infect Windows 7 and Windows XP, Windows 7 showed significantly more resilience to infection. And Windows 7 can use the improved security features that many antivirus programs already have that are designed with security features Vista or 7 in mind, that wouldn't work in XP as it doesn't have the improved security features.

Though as always, browsing the internet without antivirus and antispyware software is like sleeping around with a litany of people who have an 80% chance of having STDs and not using a condom. Browsing on XP, however, is like using a cheap, three-year-old, brittle condom and not expecting it to break on you mid-coitus, whereas browsing with 7 is like using a fresh condom.
Sounds like you have experience man >.>

@OP:
Yeah, XP is kinda outdated. Really people has gone LOLOMG VISTA USES MORE THAN 512MB RAM!!... It's time to upgrade. Aka two years old PCs run Vista fine. My own E4600 / 8800GTS 512 / Crap 2GB RAM ran it find, I'm using W7 now.

XP should die ASAP. And if you can't catch up with tech maybe you're just bad? Really it's inferior to the likes of Vista. I'd prolly run Linux over XP, as Linux is cool and XP is outdated. (I used Ubuntu) Even though the fact Linux isn't suited for gaming.
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I was linked to this thread by someone else, and after reading, I decided I should contribute my opinion to it.

I use Windows XP, and prefer to use it, and will probably continue to do so until none of the newer games I'm actually interested in will work. If the programs somehow stop working earlier than the games, then I'll just use Linux for that.

There is probably a security risk from still using Windows XP, but I am not really concerned. I don't use Internet Explorer (assuming that the latest version is Vista/7-exclusive), and I don't attract viruses. I don't use an anti-virus or a firewall (unless a NAT'd router counts), and I rarely bother to use Windows Update, except after a fresh install. However, I DO use Spybot Search and Destroy occasionally. With all these security issues I give my computer, I have never been attacked during the 4 years I've used Windows XP (and Windows 2000) in this way, except for one time when my computer started acting strangely in general (windows randomly flipped between themselves), so I just reinstalled XP on a completely reformatted hard drive.

I doubt my computer will get attacked tomorrow or next week, and if it does, then I'll just reinstall everything; it is that easy for me, considering I reinstall the operating system once every 6 months anyway. With that said, I am aware that there ARE some risks that cause your computer to be infected with a certain few things you don't notice at all (except for perhaps sluggishness), but I take the risk as I have a few general issues with the various security software I've tried previously, but I won't go into detail on this.

So, why do I refuse to use Windows Vista or 7? They are quite bloated. They suck up a lot of memory and CPU resources for the new features I do not use or care about (eye candy is quite subjective). You might say that newer things will gradually use more and more resources, and that I should be upgrading, and while I do agree that more computing power is good, there is little loss in useful functionality the less resources an operating system uses (for example, XFCE and Fluxbox with Linux, and I quite like them). I would like to be allowed as much resources as possible for running the other, useful things I do use.

The newer Windows do have some new hardware-related features that XP does not have, but I do not use them. I think someone claimed that IPv6 was one of them, although I have no trouble setting it up on XP, and it was one of the reasons I switched from Windows 2000 in the first place. However, and I'm probably contradicting myself at least a bit by saying this, but I will not deny that 64-bit Windows XP may be terrible, although I have yet to try it, and the motherboard only handles 2 GB of RAM (ironically enough it still has a 64-bit CPU) and I don't care to spend more money for a newer computer when this one works quite well, and the games I play run at a high FPS on it.

Much of the latest and newest things still work on XP (and Windows 2000 for that matter!), and so I am quite happy with Windows XP. I should note, as well, that I am not that big of a gamer so I haven't encountered any new games that does not work on XP.

So, Windows XP is old, but not too old to be unusable, and it is not entirely obsolete.

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If the programs somehow stop working earlier than the games, then I'll just use Linux for that.
Best be preparing for this one. XP is being phased out. IE9 will not be supported and you will continuously be more vulnerable to viruses. If I were you, quite honestly? I'd switch to Linux now, as long as you don't mind the loss of games and compatibility with programs.


There is probably a security risk from still using Windows XP, but I am not really concerned. I don't use Internet Explorer (assuming that the latest version is Vista/7-exclusive), and I don't attract viruses. I don't use an anti-virus or a firewall (unless a NAT'd router counts), and I rarely bother to use Windows Update, except after a fresh install. However, I DO use Spybot Search and Destroy occasionally. With all these security issues I give my computer, I have never been attacked during the 4 years I've used Windows XP (and Windows 2000) in this way
Now you're trolling. XP is a blundering baffoon of outdated security practices at this point. I'd appreciate it if you didn't lie and or say things like this to encourage people to feel safe using a OS that is not safe at all. I know for a fact an XP installation is extremely lucky to last a few months exposed to the internet without any protection. Why? I see the viruses getting blocked. I KNOW they're out there, where they come from, what they do, and how often they tend to appear.

I doubt my computer will get attacked tomorrow or next week
There's a fair chance you will. The internet doesn't have pity for people not using any protection, and you'll find it will not protect you for you. Consider using a free version of an antivirus called Avast.

So, why do I refuse to use Windows Vista or 7? They are quite bloated. They suck up a lot of memory and CPU resources for the new features I do not use or care about (eye candy is quite subjective). You might say that newer things will gradually use more and more resources, and that I should be upgrading, and while I do agree that more computing power is good, there is little loss in useful functionality the less resources an operating system uses (for example, XFCE and Fluxbox with Linux, and I quite like them). I would like to be allowed as much resources as possible for running the other, useful things I do use.
They're not bloated. They don't suck up a lot of memory and or CPU resources. In fact, XP was as bad if not worse than Vista when it came to memory advancements. People made this excuse when XP came out. It's not really valid. Here, see this article from 2003... Kinda seems familiar, doesn't it. That's because it's the same thing. Furthermore, 7 has slightly LOWER hardware requirements than Vista, so I dare say it's absolutely ridiculous to call 7 a memory hog.

The newer Windows do have some new hardware-related features that XP does not have, but I do not use them. I think someone claimed that IPv6 was one of them, although I have no trouble setting it up on XP, and it was one of the reasons I switched from Windows 2000 in the first place. However, and I'm probably contradicting myself at least a bit by saying this, but I will not deny that 64-bit Windows XP may be terrible, although I have yet to try it, and the motherboard only handles 2 GB of RAM (ironically enough it still has a 64-bit CPU) and I don't care to spend more money for a newer computer when this one works quite well, and the games I play run at a high FPS on it.
XP has poor IPv6 support compared to newer OSes. And there are many new features on newer OSes that XP is no longer capable of getting, some of these major security advancements like ASLR and UAC. Also, 64 bit on Vista and 7 are pretty much incredible, while XP's 64 bit is a monstrosity.

Much of the latest and newest things still work on XP (and Windows 2000 for that matter!), and so I am quite happy with Windows XP. I should note, as well, that I am not that big of a gamer so I haven't encountered any new games that does not work on XP.
Not using it to it's full potential doesn't really make it not obsolete though. And I'm sorry to say it but the latest and greatest is in fact not on XP anymore.
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Stop reapiting the D*** uac and whatever is that 7 and vista use all of us are happy with our xp we will not change as soon as xp phases out open source will kick in i already have aero on my xp i already have lots of things that vista and 7 do exclusivly i have dx11 (yes i really do real easy to do) i have everything that vista has and even bettered i dont care no more i dont want any of the new os they are resource hogs and pretty much anything that vista or 7 has i have it on my good new xp so i really do not care when ie9 comes out(as much as i hate ie) ill have it making a hack for it is the easieast thing to do so i with a big i feel sorry for you i say good bye.
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Stop reapiting the D*** uac and whatever is that 7 and vista use all of us are happy with our xp we will not change as soon as xp phases out open source will kick in i already have aero on my xp i already have lots of things that vista and 7 do exclusivly i have dx11 (yes i really do real easy to do) i have everything that vista has and even bettered i dont care no more i dont want any of the new os they are resource hogs and pretty much anything that vista or 7 has i have it on my good new xp so i really do not care when ie9 comes out(as much as i hate ie) ill have it making a hack for it is the easieast thing to do so i with a big i feel sorry for you i say good bye.
Okay, a few things:

1. UAC helps prevent the casual user from inadvertantly installing some malicious software. Other security features of Vista and 7 reduce random attacks on your machine, which do happen quite often with XP, since all you usually have to do is open ONE web page, document, or other file coded to exploit the vulnerability, and then whomever decides to target your machine to control can easily use that exploited back door without you being made aware because they're not using Windows and therefore don't have to follow Windows protocols. And then there's the matter of the XP administrator account being so easy to crack from any location. I will not state what it is because, despite millions of XP users who aren't even aware of it, there are plenty of hackers who don't know what this vulnerability is, and I don't wanna inform the latter group.

2. Open source OSes don't do gaming.

3. Having 1 GB of RAM means you're using a machine that's equivalent to a machine with just 256 MB of RAM in 2004. Sure, it may run an older OS just fine, but you're behind on performance levels for both applications and OSes, which was the case for a machine with 256 MB of RAM in 2004.

4. Vista was good, but just tried too hard to be everything for everyone. 7 takes the good in Vista and amplifies it, while still being less of a resource hog than Vista.

5. I feel sorry for you being so deluded that 1 GB of RAM is enough to play newer games. I know from experience that many 5 and 6 year old games struggle with that much on even XP.

and...

6. Windows 7 is much more flexible in relation to how much RAM you have physically on your machine than XP and Vista were.
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Stop reapiting the D*** uac and whatever is that 7 and vista use all of us are happy with our xp we will not change as soon as xp phases out open source will kick in i already have aero on my xp i already have lots of things that vista and 7 do exclusivly i have dx11 (yes i really do real easy to do) i have everything that vista has and even bettered i dont care no more i dont want any of the new os they are resource hogs and pretty much anything that vista or 7 has i have it on my good new xp so i really do not care when ie9 comes out(as much as i hate ie) ill have it making a hack for it is the easieast thing to do so i with a big i feel sorry for you i say good bye.
Please take your trolling elsewhere! We have better tastes than the average person who thinks all UAC does is interrupt their ever so impenetrable cardboard box fortress and listens to everything they hear on the internet! -_- Seriously! You completely ignore any logic used against you. It's like, insanely old at this point.

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Okay, a few things:

1. UAC helps prevent the casual user from inadvertantly installing some malicious software. Other security features of Vista and 7 reduce random attacks on your machine, which do happen quite often with XP, since all you usually have to do is open ONE web page, document, or other file coded to exploit the vulnerability, and then whomever decides to target your machine to control can easily use that exploited back door without you being made aware because they're not using Windows and therefore don't have to follow Windows protocols. And then there's the matter of the XP administrator account being so easy to crack from any location. I will not state what it is because, despite millions of XP users who aren't even aware of it, there are plenty of hackers who don't know what this vulnerability is, and I don't wanna inform the latter group.

2. Open source OSes don't do gaming.

3. Having 1 GB of RAM means you're using a machine that's equivalent to a machine with just 256 MB of RAM in 2004. Sure, it may run an older OS just fine, but you're behind on performance levels for both applications and OSes, which was the case for a machine with 256 MB of RAM in 2004.

4. Vista was good, but just tried too hard to be everything for everyone. 7 takes the good in Vista and amplifies it, while still being less of a resource hog than Vista.

5. I feel sorry for you being so deluded that 1 GB of RAM is enough to play newer games. I know from experience that many 5 and 6 year old games struggle with that much on even XP.

and...

6. Windows 7 is much more flexible in relation to how much RAM you have physically on your machine than XP and Vista were.
open source os do gaming it depends on who programs it. this comp has a gig of ram the other has 6 gigs running xp home gaming edition. i said stop mentioning uac i know what it does i dont install any software unless i trust it and uac all it does is f*** up all of the keygens and other programs. vista wasnt good it never was too many d*** question to close a frigging window.

Please take your trolling elsewhere! We have better tastes than the average person who thinks all UAC does is interrupt their ever so impenetrable cardboard box fortress and listens to everything they hear on the internet! -_- Seriously! You completely ignore any logic used against you. It's like, insanely old at this point.

you stop trolling you revived the dang thread
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open source os do gaming it depends on who programs it. this comp has a gig of ram the other has 6 gigs running xp home gaming edition. i said stop mentioning uac i know what it does i dont install any software unless i trust it and uac all it does is f*** up all of the keygens and other programs. vista wasnt good it never was too many d*** question to close a frigging window.



you stop trolling you revived the dang thread
No I didn't. The guy before me did. And we'll mention it all we want because we're sort of right and you're sort of being ignorant.

Furthermore, your argument consists of "no ur wrong and i hate vista" in TL;DR fashion. I'd be more unimpressed but that's not possible.
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