5th Gen New Types? Page 25

Started by ChrisTom May 16th, 2010 3:31 PM
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See, someone stated in that thread that while the tail on Zekrom looks a lot like a turbo-jet engine, the tail of Reshiram looks like an old style tiki torch.
It actually more closely resembles a type of gigantic torch used in Japanese fire festivals. These things are like, 10 ft long.

As for what Cyberglass said, Dark's (Evil) type in Japanese is NOT THE SAME as Evil such as RAWR I'm bad so I destroy things, kill and enslave people.
Actually, it does mean that. It is "aku" type, which literally means evil. I'm not on my computer where I can type and look things up in Japanese, so I can't directly quote the dictionary this time, but I've checked before. If you remember "Akuma" from the Street Fighter series... his name comes from the same root word, and is the Japanese word for "demon."
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I really want there to be a light type! That would be so cool!

Of course, this is coming from a kingdom hearts fan who obsesses over Light and Dark issues. When the new legendary pokemon were revealed, I totally expected Zekrom to be dark type and for them to add the light type. (Reshiram.) ...I suppose people could change that when it becomes hackable. Not that anyone would dream of changing the pokemon types. As much as I hope for there to be a light type, I highly doubt they will add it unless they are willing to change the types of other pokemon previously added. Psychic seems to be the opposite, even though it was out before dark was.

My reasoning? First, Umbreon and Espeon came out around the same time. One evolves when its light out and the other when its dark out.

Second: the type matchup. As we all know, darkness can snuff out the light, but it will put up a resistanse and fight back. Dark type attacks are super effective against Psychic, but their attack are sadly, mostly weak and unable to do much damage elsewhere. Most psychic pokemon have good defense as well.

Sorry if i wasn't accurate, but I kinda let Kingdom Hearts take over my thoughts there. But if you think about it, its true.


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What I think is funny is people saying if there was a Light type it should be Reshiram which is way wrong as Reshiram is Yang...Which would be Dark...Zekrom would be the Light/Dragon if they made a Light type because he is Yin which is Light...haha Of course they aren't mean't to be apart so I don't know why they aren't one being of Light/Dark...Neither are tech good or evil but mostly its Yin and Yang; Good and Evil...

I really want there to be a light type! That would be so cool!

Of course, this is coming from a kingdom hearts fan who obsesses over Light and Dark issues. When the new legendary pokemon were revealed, I totally expected Zekrom to be dark type and for them to add the light type. (Reshiram.) ...I suppose people could change that when it becomes hackable. Not that anyone would dream of changing the pokemon types. As much as I hope for there to be a light type, I highly doubt they will add it unless they are willing to change the types of other pokemon previously added. Psychic seems to be the opposite, even though it was out before dark was.

My reasoning? First, Umbreon and Espeon came out around the same time. One evolves when its light out and the other when its dark out.

Second: the type matchup. As we all know, darkness can snuff out the light, but it will put up a resistanse and fight back. Dark type attacks are super effective against Psychic, but their attack are sadly, mostly weak and unable to do much damage elsewhere. Most psychic pokemon have good defense as well.

Sorry if i wasn't accurate, but I kinda let Kingdom Hearts take over my thoughts there. But if you think about it, its true.
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Second: the type matchup. As we all know, darkness can snuff out the light, but it will put up a resistanse and fight back. Dark type attacks are super effective against Psychic, but their attack are sadly, mostly weak and unable to do much damage elsewhere. Most psychic pokemon have good defense as well.
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Most common psychic pokemon have terrible defenses. Alakazam, Azelf, Espeon; the only ones with fair or better defenses are either part Steel (Bronzong, Metagross), legendary (Cresselia, Deoxys - Defense), or Slowbro/king. The rest are pretty not-good. :x

Also, there are very few Psychic-types that can beat out a Dark-type. :(

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Since this thread is long, I'm not even going to attempt to read through it. x.x

I wouldn't mind a Light type. It would make sense as there is a Dark type but I don't think any new types will be introduced since they made a huge fuss over Arceus' Plates especially in the twelfth movie.
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Light and Sound would be a real treat.
Because when there were new types in Gen II, they introduced two new ones, not one. I think it would probably be either both or none, now that I think about it.


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Most common psychic pokemon have terrible defenses. Alakazam, Azelf, Espeon; the only ones with fair or better defenses are either part Steel (Bronzong, Metagross), legendary (Cresselia, Deoxys - Defense), or Slowbro/king. The rest are pretty not-good. :x

Also, there are very few Psychic-types that can beat out a Dark-type. :(

Gallade can beat a dark type since he is part fighting, and defense doesn't matter with him because his Attack and Sp. Attack are so high he PWNS everyone before they get a chance to attack.

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^Thats not his point......Gallade is one psychic among others that have less than stellar defenses. If anything you strengthened his argument by showing how psychic is a generally weak type defensively.

@electricscyther: Bro, you're in no position to dictate where this discussion is headed, especially when you're trying to switch sides abruptly without any consequences.
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Saying that Reshiram being Fire/Dragon means that there will be no Light type doesn't make sense, seeing as his counterpart Zekrom isn't Dark type...

HOWEVER the fact that they are meant to represent yin and yang and still they aren't Dark or Light type does convince me that the new type won't be introduced this Generation, or indeed at all. I can still dream though...

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Saying that Reshiram being Fire/Dragon means that there will be no Light type doesn't make sense, seeing as his counterpart Zekrom isn't Dark type...

HOWEVER the fact that they are meant to represent yin and yang and still they aren't Dark or Light type does convince me that the new type won't be introduced this Generation, or indeed at all. I can still dream though...
I'm gonna say this one more time...in caps...

RESHIRAM WOULD BE THE DARK TYPE AND ZEKROM WOULD BE THE LIGHT TYPE...

Okay so stop commenting on Reshiram not being Light as if they made the Legends into Light/Dark it would be:

Reshiram: Dark/Dragon
Zekrom: Light/Dragon
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What I think is funny is people saying if there was a Light type it should be Reshiram which is way wrong as Reshiram is Yang...Which would be Dark...Zekrom would be the Light/Dragon if they made a Light type because he is Yin which is Light...haha Of course they aren't mean't to be apart so I don't know why they aren't one being of Light/Dark...Neither are tech good or evil but mostly its Yin and Yang; Good and Evil...
I'm gonna say this one more time...in caps...

RESHIRAM WOULD BE THE DARK TYPE AND ZEKROM WOULD BE THE LIGHT TYPE...

Okay so stop commenting on Reshiram not being Light as if they made the Legends into Light/Dark it would be:

Reshiram: Dark/Dragon
Zekrom: Light/Dragon
Prove it.

Oh wait, you can't.

Because you're not GameFreak.

and you don't know how YinYang works.

Spoiler:
Reshiram is Yang, right?
Yang can represent Hot, Life, Day, Sun, and Fire, among other things.
Zekrom is Yin, according to you?
Yin can represent Cold, Death, Night, Moon, and Water.

In turn, Yang can be seen as Light and Yin as Dark.

So do some god damn research before you try to correct OTHER people.
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they should make a light version of every dark pokemon and give it the light type
umm...wtf?

Prove it.

Oh wait, you can't.

Because you're not GameFreak.

and you don't know how YinYang works.

Spoiler:
Reshiram is Yang, right?
Yang can represent Hot, Life, Day, Sun, and Fire, among other things.
Zekrom is Yin, according to you?
Yin can represent Cold, Death, Night, Moon, and Water.

In turn, Yang can be seen as Light and Yin as Dark.

So do some god damn research before you try to correct OTHER people.
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Agreed. Ravecat, we may not see eye to eye on the issue of new types, but it's nice to have someone who does their research. There's a lot of misunderstanding about what Yin and Yang actually means in the west. But now we're getting into a discussion of the Legendaries, which belongs to another thread.

Back on topic: new types, eh? Sounds like a good idea. :)
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Yeah that's why I don't bother arguing about yin and yang. I haven't looked into it myself so I can't properly discuss it. (This way I avoid embarassing myself xD haha)

how about them new types?! Interesting idea huh...
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Prove it.

Oh wait, you can't.

Because you're not GameFreak.

and you don't know how YinYang works.

Spoiler:
Reshiram is Yang, right?
Yang can represent Hot, Life, Day, Sun, and Fire, among other things.
Zekrom is Yin, according to you?
Yin can represent Cold, Death, Night, Moon, and Water.

In turn, Yang can be seen as Light and Yin as Dark.

So do some god damn research before you try to correct OTHER people.
Did you happen to read the last part of the first post? No? You didn't? Because I said there that they shouldn't be Light/Dark to begin with... I know about YinYang and the story of how they got mixed up as such... I said neither is good or evil they are just one being... When EVERYONE states the fact that one would be Light and the other Dark when thats not how it works it gets quite annoying when its left like that. Being GameFreak has NOTHING to do with determining what Yin and Yang are you idiot... Zekrom being Yin "According to me" is also a stupid move since you know... He IS the Yin Pokemon I know how Yin and Yang work but they would never make Reshiram Light and Zekrom Dark seeing as Reshiram is White and Dark is Black making it one being and Zekrom being Black and Light is White would make it a full being too... WEIRD howd that work?? Plus if we are gonna use EVERY SINGLE VERSION OF YinYang then why not give the Legends there the Male/Female ways Yin and Yang are represented in other cultures... Oh yeah because Legends don't have genders.... You can't do all of them okay so if we stick to the Light and Dark halves of every being it would be Reshiram as a Light and Zekrom as a Dark
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I read both of your posts in their entirety. You obviously didn't mine.
Do not call me an idiot unless you can prove yourself otherwise.

You said if they had to be categorized between the two, Zekrom would be Light and Reshiram would be Dark.

You were wrong.

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I read both of your posts in their entirety. You obviously didn't mine.
Do not call me an idiot unless you can prove yourself otherwise.

You said if they had to be categorized between the two, Zekrom would be Light and Reshiram would be Dark.

You were wrong.
I did read the couple of words you put as a post as well... You are just not understanding and plugging your ears to any discussion and yelling "I'm right lalalalalalala"... In other words your an idiot...
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I'm gonna say this one more time...in caps...

RESHIRAM WOULD BE THE DARK TYPE AND ZEKROM WOULD BE THE LIGHT TYPE...

Okay so stop commenting on Reshiram not being Light as if they made the Legends into Light/Dark it would be:

Reshiram: Dark/Dragon
Zekrom: Light/Dragon
I think you missed my point. It doesn't matter which way round they would be; people were arguing that as Reshiram wasn't Light-type, then that meant that Light-type wasn't going to be introduced. But that argument doesn't make sense, because the only reason that Reshiram should have been a Light-type would have been if Zekrom - his counterpart and opposite - was a Dark-type (or vice versa). Which he is not.

Therefore Reshiram and Zekrom's typings do not mean that there will definitely be no Light-type.

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No, I made a rebuttal to your argument and you are mad.

Calm down, read what I wrote, and respond in a decent, legible manner.

Because at the moment nothing you say makes any sense.
Actually I couldn't care less about you or anything you said I'm in no way, shape, or form mad at all. Your rebuttal is "You are wrong because" and the Because is that you are thinking of a different culture than I am... As many cultures use different meanings to Yin and Yang and Reshiram and Zekrom cannot possibly represent them all... All I am saying is that that saying they should be Dark/Light types is stupid as they need to be balanced to be Yin and Yang.

I think you missed my point. It doesn't matter which way round they would be; people were arguing that as Reshiram wasn't Light-type, then that meant that Light-type wasn't going to be introduced. But that argument doesn't make sense, because the only reason that Reshiram should have been a Light-type would have been if Zekrom - his counterpart and opposite - was a Dark-type (or vice versa). Which he is not.

Therefore Reshiram and Zekrom's typings do not mean that there will definitely be no Light-type.
I'm saying saying they have SO many posts just saying the same stupid thing being "Reshiram should be Light and Zekrom should be Dark OMGBBQ that be coolz" so yeah it got quite annoying...
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I really like the idea of new types. inb4 ZOMG YOU CAN'T / GAME IS UNBALANCED HURRRR etc. One of the most exciting aspects of GSC for me was holy crud look at these Pokémon types I've never seen before! Yowza! It really made me feel there had been a revolution between RBY and GSC. So adding another new type to B/W would, I imagine, inspire the same feeling =]

As for making the game unbalanced or 'not true to the canon' or whatever - Isshu is a whole. new. region. At the moment there are no announcements stating that old regions can be visited. So why not? A whole region that has a type all to itself? Brilliant. That would make it different from the others. *shrug*

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