5th Gen New Types? Page 26

Started by ChrisTom May 16th, 2010 3:31 PM
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^I get your point of view but the addition of new types in G/S were actually to balance the psychic type. That's actually been explicitly stated often in this thread. This is one of the main reasons some of us argue that new types won't be introduced; so it's not something that can be discarded since balance played a huge role.

Damn calder, you need to chill out. We all may disagree on subjects, etc. but we certainly haven't insulted one another.
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^I get your point of view but the addition of new types in G/S were actually to balance the psychic type. That's actually been explicitly stated often in this thread. This is one of the main reasons some of us argue that new types won't be introduced; so it's not something that can be discarded since balance played a huge role.

Damn calder, you need to chill out. We all may disagree on subjects, etc. but we certainly haven't insulted one another.
Yeah, I wasn't trying to look at it from a practical perspective, just a fan perspective. A new type would be something to look forward to as much as new Pokémon being revealed; that said, I'm highly doubtful that any will be introduced.

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Well in a fan perspective, I actually like the idea too. I mean, why not? It sure would be awesome to see something fresh along with a new region but...

...realistically speaking ...I just don't see it happening xD
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I think I understand what Calder is getting at now. I was initially really kind of confused (and still am confused) which is why I never touched upon this topic 'til now. But I'm going to take a stab at it. SO, @Calder, are you saying Reshiram would be a Dark-type and Zekrom a Light-type because of the black dot within yang and vice versa, and that being typed the opposite of what they represent makes them complete... ? Idk, man. It doesn't sound quite right to me. I mean, it's perfectly fine for them to represent one half of something and to be "incomplete." After all, women represent only yang and as far as I know, women get along perfectly fine representing only one half of the yin-yang symbol.

If I completely missed what you were talking about, then you can disregard what I've said above. But I still don't get why yang = dark and yin = light. :B

And I completely agree with you Moriarty. :( I really want to see a new type, too, because it would bring something new to the games and make me feel.... so excited, even more than I am now. I doubt it's going to happen as well.



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Spoiler:
Reshiram is Yang, right?
Yang can represent Hot, Life, Day, Sun, and Fire, among other things.
Zekrom is Yin, according to you?
Yin can represent Cold, Death, Night, Moon, and Water.

In turn, Yang can be seen as Light and Yin as Dark.

So do some god damn research before you try to correct OTHER people.
Also, the light and dark that yang and yin represent are actual physical brightness and darkness, not good and evil, so it wouldn't make sense for either legend to be Light type anyway (or a Dark type, for that matter), even if Light type was introduced.

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Just so you know, females are Yin, and males are Yang in the chinese Taoism.
I'm a Taoist myself, though this is not the point.

People arguing about the Yin-Yang elements when they know nuts are just what pissing me off, &&. I don't see why they NEED to make a Light type, it's so annoying and unneeded.

Go ahead, flame me, but this is my own opinion.

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That new green pokemon looks like a giant germ and could be a new type.....hello virus type :)
That would just make those who don't want Pokemon to resemble Digimon even more vehement. Digimon has a Virus typing.

Besides, I personally see Poison as the Pokemon's version of viruses. They can cause illnesses.

And besides that, not every new Pokemon needs their own type. The green floaty thing could be a Poison type, or whatever one/two of the preexisting types. Like Grass, because it's green, amirite? (That's a joke, people. I'm not being serious.)

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I was too lazy to read all your hypothetical stuff, so I'm just going to make my comment.

So it's been stated, Dark/Steel were added for balance. But nonetheless, we still have broken pokemon in the game, which is why Garchomp, Latias (both with a confirmed verdict of uber) and now Salamence were teetering between OU and Uber play. Perhaps light types could somehow... magically fix everything? Of course there will still be flaws, but I'm hoping for a new type - if not a new type, a move, to a lesser extent - which will return pokemon to the oirigins, such as Garchomp back into OU.

Of course, competitive play isn't the main thing to focus on when it comes to typing, but I'm saying that if there is a new type added, it would mostly be for beneficial purposes such as an even sturdier game play and less infrequent pokemon.
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I was too lazy to read all your hypothetical stuff, so I'm just going to make my comment.

So it's been stated, Dark/Steel were added for balance. But nonetheless, we still have broken pokemon in the game, which is why Garchomp, Latias (both with a confirmed verdict of uber) and now Salamence were teetering between OU and Uber play. Perhaps light types could somehow... magically fix everything? Of course there will still be flaws, but I'm hoping for a new type - if not a new type, a move, to a lesser extent - which will return pokemon to the oirigins, such as Garchomp back into OU.

Of course, competitive play isn't the main thing to focus on when it comes to typing, but I'm saying that if there is a new type added, it would mostly be for beneficial purposes such as an even sturdier game play and less infrequent pokemon.
NO LIGHT TYPE. or any new type.

all they need to do is make adjustments. for example, bugs should not be weak against rock type anymore.
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Just so you know, females are Yin, and males are Yang in the chinese Taoism.
I'm a Taoist myself, though this is not the point.

People arguing about the Yin-Yang elements when they know nuts are just what pissing me off, &&. I don't see why they NEED to make a Light type, it's so annoying and unneeded.
Who would flame you? You're right.

I don't like people who argue about things they know nothing about either, which is the sole reason I argued that point.

and Bug should definitely stay weak against Rock.
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Okay honestly this light type I'm actually against
I'm usually for a lot of things
The fact is light (to me) would only make sense to be super effective against dark and ghost.
I don't see how it would make sense for it be super effective against dragon types.
Also something people seem to be forgetting to mention is the fact that dragon is also super effective against dragon...not just ice.
Bug has the power it deserves now with actual good attacks like x-scissor as bug is actually super effective against the ever so powerful psychic types.
I was a huge fan of scizor in SS/HG for that reason.
I will give you the benefit for poison being underpowered and everybody only using toxic as it's the only move actually worth using it seems.
I don't see how light would be super effective against poison either but I guess it could be stretched.
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well, i think that if they added Sun, or Ethereal (counter to ghost) it could be cool but if they are adding a new type (which i dont see as likely), it would probably be light

Um..Digimon would reject those types, hell Neopets would reject those types (do they even have types). Yth would we need sun when we have fire and electric, and ghost already has a counter, called dark.

Anyway, Light and Sound seem to be very relevant points, but niether of them PWN dragons. As someone brought up earlier, the Dragons are now borderline uber. They need a 3rd weakness for dragon types, like when they made dark to balance out the uberocity of Psychic types in Gen 2. Light and Sound wouldn't really effect a dragon though. I can't see Reshiram blinding Salamence with Light Rays or Exploud screaming sonic waves till Garchomp is deaf.

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Um..Digimon would reject those types, hell Neopets would reject those types (do they even have types). Yth would we need sun when we have fire and electric, and ghost already has a counter, called dark.

Anyway, Light and Sound seem to be very relevant points, but niether of them PWN dragons. As someone brought up earlier, the Dragons are now borderline uber. They need a 3rd weakness for dragon types, like when they made dark to balance out the uberocity of Psychic types in Gen 2. Light and Sound wouldn't really effect a dragon though. I can't see Reshiram blinding Salamence with Light Rays or Exploud screaming sonic waves till Garchomp is deaf.
sun could be a purely defensive/supportive type. they are blurring all the types together with some of these new moves. its now getting down to just super effective/not effective. i'd like to see them give types a role in your party now. grass and poison are the only ones that i really see as specilized right now. i wasn't talking like ethereal was a combat counter to ghost. more a moral counter. like ghost and dark seem evil. psychic and ethereal/light are good. it was just a suggestion

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I personally think that a light-type would be a great addition. Ooh... An idea for a new ability, Chlorophyll (I don't think that's already an ability). When a Pokemon (Primarily grass type) is hit by a light-type move, it's health would be regenerated, much like the ability FlashFire or VoltAbsorb. Just a thought.

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I'd love to see a Grass and Light type! But wouldn't the move Sunny Day have to be changed and stuff?

And, ummm, Chlorophyll is an ability that raises speed in sunshine...... Bellosom and Cherubi have it, along with other grass types...
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I personally think that a light-type would be a great addition. Ooh... An idea for a new ability, Chlorophyll (I don't think that's already an ability). When a Pokemon (Primarily grass type) is hit by a light-type move, it's health would be regenerated, much like the ability FlashFire or VoltAbsorb. Just a thought.
Chlorophyll is an ability... Has to do with SUNNY DAY which is a FIRE TYPE!!!

Think of all of the moves out there now that represent a supposed "Light type". Doom Desire, Flash Cannon, Sunny Day, Flash, etc. all of these are covered by Steel, Fire, Normal, Electric, and Psychic. Even Dragons, in Chinese Mythology, represented goodness and light. To say that Light type might be effective against them... no... If anything, Poison needs to be SE against Dragons. Not because Poison doesn't get much, it just fits and would balance the lizards OPness with the sludges crapness (i.e. supereffective to only grass)

We all want to see more power in our favorite types, but right now, I think the guys at GF need to work on getting the types they ALREADY HAVE worked out before they say, ooh, we need new type here.
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