5th Gen Victini, Zekrom and Reshiram Discussion Thread Page 25

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Haha, yeah, I also read that on Serebii seconds ago.
I just think she was goofy and it slipped. Like those recent iDevice leaks, accidental stuff that reveal more info to the public.
But I'll love him to be Dragon-Electric ! Any new type combo is welcome ! ^^
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I can kind of see why it would be Electric, but it makes much more sense for it to be Dark. (Either way we'd have a unique typing) Then again, it is the legendary for Pokemon White, and electricity is very bright, so maybe that's why? But then Reshiram would have to be Dark o_0

I should just try not to speculate about this and wait for confirmed information.
This is exactly what I was thinking. Since they're probably opposites of each other, maybe the whole Dragon/Electric type might be the offset of a Dragon/Dark type. Perhaps a fire type as people have speculated. It would seem that basing types from color schemes this time around might not be the best way to go about things, especially if this rumor is true.

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He looks like a robot. Robots are electronic. Electricity can be blue. Zekrom has some blue in his design. It doesn't necessarily have to be yellow to be electric. Have you ever seen lightning? Lightning has tints of blue in it.

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Reshiram has a possibility of being part fire seeing as there is a torch for its tail. Maybe it controls volcanoes or actual fire.

The reasons why the legendaries for Black and White could be fire and electric:

Fire--you light a candle to see in the dark. It's light in darkness.

Electricity--you turn on a lamp when it's dark. It's also light in darkness.

Therefore, Fire and Electricity tie into the light/dark aspect. Both create light when there is darkness. It doesn't have to be so literal and be part light and part dark types. The legendaries could be part fire and part electric and still convey the same message. The titles make sense, because Black represents dark and white represents light.

Also, with fire and electricity, not only can they bring light, they can cause darkness as well. If you use too much electricity, it causes power outages (like the one in Sunyshore). Without power, you're in darkness. Fire also creates smoke. You can't see when there is smoke and ash. Therefore, there is darkness.

Fire and electricity control light and dark. Therefore everything I've said makes sense for the legendaries to be part fire and electric.
The blue is the lighting on zekrom's smooth black/dark grey body. There's not even ANY blue in its eyes! It's eyes are red and its iris is green with a black pupil.

Either way, there is OBVIOUSLY some reason why they are keeping their second types extremely secret.

Personally, I think it's just to piss us all off. :D

Also, on a side note. Who here expected Groudon to be a Fire-Type pokemon the first time they saw him?

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I think I figured it out you guys..... Zekrom is definitely part electric, because his tail is one of those things you plug into a cigarette lighter to charge! So we can be sure at some point in the game he will plug his tail into a giant cigarette lighter and steal all the energy from the city! :O

Just kidding, but I like the idea that he may be electric. It would make a lot of sense with the whole computer thing (RAM, ROM). And I like how someone pointed out the cave with the blue electricity everywhere, this would also make sense with it. And I'm not completely sure, but I think the color of electricity depends on it's charge.
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Lol I find it funny how the guy quickly deleted the post LOL I bet his boss told him off or somthing XDXD

I think it could since it has that big jet thing as its tail, like those things on airoplanes.
The first time I saw it I thought it might be a steel type though :\
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I kind of think Reshiram is going to be Dragon/Flying, which would be lame. But hopefully looks can be deceiving this time.....
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Lol I find it funny how the guy quickly deleted th.e post LOL I bet his boss told him off or somthing XDXD

I think it could since it has that big jet thing as its tail, like those things on airoplanes.
The first time I saw it I thought it might be a steel type though :\
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Crap I forgot to quote some who mentioned Groudon. Anyway, yeah I thought Groudon would be a fire type instead of ground. Good thing it can learn fire type moves.
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Hm......... There's nothing about Zekrom that screams electric type to me.

Hell, if he IS an electric type, he'd be THE FIRST ONE of breaking the trend of Electric pokemon being yellow or at having yellow on them. As of right now, only Chinchou, Lanturn, Electrike, Manetric, Shinx, Luxio, and Luxray are the ONLY electric pokemon that fall under that second category
.....There's nothing about Flygon or Garchomp that screams Ground-type but they are. Flygon has the WINGS, eyes, and antennae of a bug and is bright green. Garchomp is a frickin hammerhead shark, yet they're both Ground because that's just a part of their OVERALL design and they were intended that way. Oh, and the connection with the cave seems logical.

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I think she knows it's part electric, but she hurried up and removed it, because she remembered that no one is supposed to know.

After reading that, I wondered if this is the location where Zekrom may be found. It's a possibility. It could just be a random cave, but I think there's a chance Zekrom's location is here. Zekrom has some blue in his design, and the electricity in this picture is blue. He also seems to have a robotic look. Robots are electronic. It makes sense for him to be part electric.
oh you beat me to it :D yeah i think that too i like the electromagnet theme
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for those who are saying that it just might be true, and see the blues reflecting off of it's body, as much as I'd hate this I have a theory. Reshiram also has reds reflecting from it's white body. And it's head and tail look like fire. This could still relate to Naturalization and Industrialization. Fire = NATURAL LIGHT, Electricity = Unnatural Light, for the most part anyway.

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For some reason, I am no longer excited about them anymore... I got my hopes up I guess.

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The Electric/Dragon typing is a new typing, Zekrom would be the first Pokemon of them all to hold it. When competative is a concern, this typing is an OK typing holding 7 resistances at the cost of 3 weaknesses. It's not a very efficient combination since it didn't serve to cancel out any weeknesses, and on the good side no weaknesses actually stacked to make a devastating 4X weakness.

But, I actually like this typing since I think we should have more electric type legendaries and it would be nice to see what a legend of that type will be capable of. As for Reshiram, if Zekrom ended up being half-electric type, then it looks like the whole light-type theory will be forgotten, although it may still be plausible. Reshiram to me looks like a Dragon/Fire type with levitate. Maybe their roles would be for Reshiram to "light the sky" and Zekrom to "light the city".
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Well, this may dispel the Dark/Light rumors
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This was quite the surprise. I expected Zekrom to be dark, and the other one to be Psychic/Electric. I can't wait to get more info.

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The blue is the lighting on zekrom's smooth black/dark grey body. There's not even ANY blue in its eyes! It's eyes are red and its iris is green with a black pupil.

Either way, there is OBVIOUSLY some reason why they are keeping their second types extremely secret.

Personally, I think it's just to piss us all off. :D

Also, on a side note. Who here expected Groudon to be a Fire-Type pokemon the first time they saw him?
Since when did a pokemon have to be a certain color to be a certain type?
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I hope that we do get a Dragon/electric legendary...than that turbine on Zekrom's back might be a electric generator...makes sense...
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I think she missenterpeted it and just deleted it because she got the typing wrong and didnt want to confuse anyone.
Anyway, Zekrom looks more steel or dark than it does electric. :/

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There's nothing about Flygon or Garchomp that screams Ground-type but they are. Flygon has the WINGS, eyes, and antennae of a bug and is bright green. Garchomp is a frickin hammerhead shark, yet they're both Ground because that's just a part of their OVERALL design and they were intended that way.
actually, the red eye covers on flygon and his body shape point to the fact that he is designed to withstand sandstorms, and, since theres no sand type, the next best thing is ground.
And Garchomp has that feel too, and also he has the type of "ground type" yellow colourisation on him, also there's thier movepools.
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This is from Pokebeach:
"Reshiram's name comes from "shiro," which means "white" in Japanese, whereas Zekrom's comes from "kuro," which means "black." But as it turns out, the names also originate from the Japanese words "shiramu" and "kuromu," which mean "to grow light" and "to grow dark." Specifically, these words are used to refer to the sky becoming light and dark. Like we pointed out a few weeks ago, "hiun" in Hiun City's name can mean "clouds being blown by the wind." In addition to this, the bridge connected to Hiun City is named "Sky Arrow Bridge." So, we obviously have a sky theme going on in these two games in addition to the possible lightening or darkening of it. Thanks goes to Yaminokame for researching these name meanings.
What do these tidbits and the names of the Legendary Pokemon tell us about Black and White's plot? This is just speculation, but perhaps the games will involve a story related to making the sky night or day, similar to the whole land and ocean dichotomy in Ruby and Sapphire."
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And I'm not completely sure, but I think the color of electricity depends on it's charge.
That idea makes you think. One could be negative charge and the other positive charge. negative=evil, positive=good. evil=black, good= white.
I highly doubt both would be electric though, but you never know.

.....There's nothing about Flygon or Garchomp that screams Ground-type but they are. Flygon has the WINGS, eyes, and antennae of a bug and is bright green. Garchomp is a frickin hammerhead shark, yet they're both Ground because that's just a part of their OVERALL design and they were intended that way. Oh, and the connection with the cave seems logical.
On a side note, what is up with Flygon's evoloution chain ? Garchomp makes sense. Gible and Gabite look like mini Garchomps. Vibrava looks like a mini Flygon, but what in the world is trapinch ? It looks like it would turn into a Mawile. Even Yanma would have been a more sensible pre-evolutionary form than Trapinch is. They could have kept the whole dragonfly thing going.
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Dragon/Fire and Dragon/Electric legendaries seem very possible for Black and White. According to wikipedia, "lightning can also occur within the ash clouds from volcanic eruptions, or can be caused by violent forest fires which generate sufficient dust to create a static charge."

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This is a combination of fire and electricity taking place at the same time. Light is the electricity. Darkness is from the smoke caused by the fire. Notice the colors? (White and Black.)



If you place the Pokemon onto the background, it seems like a very plausible idea.
This is from Pokebeach:
"Reshiram's name comes from "shiro," which means "white" in Japanese, whereas Zekrom's comes from "kuro," which means "black." But as it turns out, the names also originate from the Japanese words "shiramu" and "kuromu," which mean "to grow light" and "to grow dark." Specifically, these words are used to refer to the sky becoming light and dark. Like we pointed out a few weeks ago, "hiun" in Hiun City's name can mean "clouds being blown by the wind." In addition to this, the bridge connected to Hiun City is named "Sky Arrow Bridge." So, we obviously have a sky theme going on in these two games in addition to the possible lightening or darkening of it.

What do these tidbits and the names of the Legendary Pokemon tell us about Black and White's plot? This is just speculation, but perhaps the games will involve a story related to making the sky night or day, similar to the whole land and ocean dichotomy in Ruby and Sapphire.


On Pokebeach they also theorized that Zekrom's tail could be a night generator.

This makes the Electric/Dragon and Fire/Dragon theory even more realistic because there is a sky theme going on already, and Fire and Electricity can each cause light, darkness, and problems with the sky.
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He looks like a robot. Robots are electronic. Electricity can be blue. Zekrom has some blue in his design. It doesn't necessarily have to be yellow to be electric. Have you ever seen lightning? Lightning has tints of blue in it.

Spoiler:


Reshiram has a possibility of being part fire seeing as there is a torch for its tail. Maybe it controls volcanoes or actual fire.

The reasons why the legendaries for Black and White could be fire and electric:

Fire--you light a candle to see in the dark. It's light in darkness.

Electricity--you turn on a lamp when it's dark. It's also light in darkness.

Therefore, Fire and Electricity tie into the light/dark aspect. Both create light when there is darkness. It doesn't have to be so literal and be part light and part dark types. The legendaries could be part fire and part electric and still convey the same message. The titles make sense, because Black represents dark and white represents light.

Also, with fire and electricity, not only can they bring light, they can cause darkness as well. If you use too much electricity, it causes power outages (like the one in Sunyshore). Without power, you're in darkness. Fire also creates smoke. You can't see when there is smoke and ash. Therefore, there is darkness.

Fire and electricity control light and dark. Therefore everything I've said makes sense for the legendaries to be part fire and electric.

It's possible that the evil organization(s) in this game are looking to harness the legendary powers for their own advantage. It could be a battle between light and darkness using fire and electricity.

That's probably why the protagonists are older. 10 year olds shouldn't be messing with fire or electricity. It also explains the boots and the shoes they are wearing. Hiun city is an industrial city that uses a lot of electricity and fire. I think I figured it all out.
Wow you've put a lot of thought into this. I love the idea! (And it would make up for my false hope for a Light type) It makes complete sense, and this way we would finally have an Electric Dragon and a Fire Dragon. As someone else pointed out, Reshiram has red highlights and Zekrom has blue highlights. I also noticed Zekrom has red and yellow eyes (fire) while Reshiram has blue eyes (electricity), to balance out the colors for the whole yin-yang thing they've got going on. Then, as you said, there's the torch tail and....electrical generator tail.

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Reshiram / Zekrom

O.k. Here's what we know:

Spoiler:
• There are two legendaries announced
• They are black and white
• They reside in a region with large cities
• A voice actor for the 13th pokemon movie blogged that she likes electric pokemon and would love to voice Zekrom. Therefore, implying that Zekrom is part electric.


The question is, What purpose will the new legendaries have in the new generation?

In Gen. 4, they had legendaries that created all space and time!
What Could Possibly Top That?

Now, Taking into account the big cities, electric type, and strange turbine tail, I'm thinking region wide energy crisis (sound familiar).
But, if that is what we guess about Zekrom, what about Reshiram.
One other thing I don't think anyone has noticed:
The suffixes - ROM & RAM - respectively could stand for the data terms - Read Only Memory & Random Access Memory - prehaps pertaining to the digital age???


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I think an Electric/Dragon would be cool but I would rather see Zekrom as a Dark/Dragon. I hope this isn't leading onto the fact that Zekrom could be Electric. But honostly I don't know what to expect.
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... I think we may be overspeculating here. I mean really. You guys are theorizing that Reshiram and Zekrom must be electric and fire because a certain charge in volcanic ash can create lightning. Don't you think the company would base the legendaries on something less... Obscure? Maybe it's just me, but that aside, I would still love to see an electric-dragon/fire-dragon pairing.
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