If Pokemon were real and you were battling a guy and... Page 2

Started by dragontamerandrea May 31st, 2010 11:41 AM
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1- you said that twice
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2- it wouldnt be your power itd be alakazam so shed be more like "oh honey why can you be more like alakazam" :P lol jk!
First! My mistake! Its actually double Post, though it merged so its look like twice! But I edited it. :P

Second! Why not my Alakazam hide for a while? So my girlfriend wouldn't notice. Haaahahaha! :D
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Ho-oh: Lets see... There's the Bell Tower one, the Mt. Battle one, and the Navel rock one. I doubt that these are all the same one.
Maybe Ho-Oh just likes to get around xD. We know that Ho-Oh was the first legendary Ash happened to see on his journey, spreading rainbows about, which means that it was flying around in Kanto, as well. I still believe that is most likely one of a kind.
Weather Trio: They are in Hoenn and Johto.
The Weather Trio were created specifically at the moment Tin Tower was burning down, thanks to the one and only Ho-Oh, and each represent a part of that event -- Raikou and the lightning that struck the tower, for example. I do not see how it would be possible for it to ever happen again.

Heatran: The pokedex implies that there are multiples.
Indeed, Heatran also happen to have genders applied to them, implying that they can breed and that there are multiples.

As for the others, I don't have anything specific to offer in rebuttal.

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[QUOTE=MalRune;5849320]



Maybe Ho-Oh just likes to get around xD. We know that Ho-Oh was the first legendary Ash happened to see on his journey, spreading rainbows about, which means that it was flying around in Kanto, as well. I still believe that is most likely one of a kind.
The Weather Trio were created specifically at the moment Tin Tower was burning down, thanks to the one and only Ho-Oh, and each represent a part of that event -- Raikou and the lightning that struck the tower, for example. I do not see how it would be possible for it to ever happen again.

Indeed, Heatran also happen to have genders applied to them, implying that they can breed and that there are multiples.

As for the others, I don't have anything specific to offer in rebuttal.
you got the wrong trio
the weather trio are:
rayquaza
kyogre
&groudon
(which he was speakin of)


your speakin of the legendary beasts which only appear in johto&kanto

First! My mistake! Its actually double Post, though it merged so its look like twice! But I edited it. :P

Second! Why not my Alakazam hide for a while? So my girlfriend wouldn't notice. Haaahahaha! :D
lol just wanted to let ya know lol ive done that before, & felt like an idiot XD

:P gravity increases the gravity, doesnt decrease it though lol, so your instead your makin it harder for urself lol
plus you should impress her yourself ;) shell love you more that way

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you got the wrong trio
the weather trio are:
rayquaza
kyogre
&groudon
(which he was speakin of)
Ahhh, that makes a bit more sense. I naturally attributed the legendary beasts to the "Weather Trio" thanks to Raikou and his affinity for lightning storms while I view Groudon, Kyogre, and Rayquaza more as "formation" pokemon -- Formation of the Seas, Formation of the Land, and Formation of the Skies (kind of). Granted, their natural abilities make it obvious as to why they have been named as they are.

My mistake.

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[QUOTE=MalRune;5849433]

Ahhh, that makes a bit more sense. I naturally attributed the legendary beasts to the "Weather Trio" thanks to Raikou and his affinity for lightning storms while I view Groudon, Kyogre, and Rayquaza more as "formation" pokemon -- Formation of the Seas, Formation of the Land, and Formation of the Skies (kind of). Granted, their natural abilities make it obvious as to why they have been named as they are.

My mistake.
i did the same thing mate,til i saw bulbapedia lol
i always took suicune for wind
entei for heat
and raikou for friction
the main 3 elements of weather lol

but groudon,kyogre,& rayquaza are much more fittin for the role ^_^

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on topic here:
i was thinkin bout how i faced a trainer at my school with mewtwo when i first got yellow, and i said "awesome what is that thing" lol i hadnt gotten past the 5th gym at the time, my charizard was at level 40 making him my strongest, with pikachu at 37 just behind him, the rest where in the 20s lol

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lol just wanted to let ya know lol ive done that before, & felt like an idiot XD

:P gravity increases the gravity, doesnt decrease it though lol, so your instead your makin it harder for urself lol
plus you should impress her yourself ;) shell love you more that way
Haahaha! yeah I can see that :D
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The Weather Trio were created specifically at the moment Tin Tower was burning down, thanks to the one and only Ho-Oh, and each represent a part of that event -- Raikou and the lightning that struck the tower, for example. I do not see how it would be possible for it to ever happen again.
First of all, the Pokedex says something along the lines of "It is said that an Entei is born every time a volcano erupts." Secondly, the weather trio is Groudon, Kyogre, and Rayquaza. Which someone already addressed. :P
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First of all, the Pokedex says something along the lines of "It is said that an Entei is born every time a volcano erupts." Secondly, the weather trio is Groudon, Kyogre, and Rayquaza. Which someone already addressed. :P
The Legends surrounding the legendary dogs say that it was due to Ho-Oh resurrecting them from the burning down Tin Tower. It may be possible that those *specific* three legendary dogs were created from that event, whereas there are other legendary dogs out there that didn't need such an event to be created.

That, or the legends and poke'dex don't match up. I question the validity of both.

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The Legends surrounding the legendary dogs say that it was due to Ho-Oh resurrecting them from the burning down Tin Tower. It may be possible that those *specific* three legendary dogs were created from that event, whereas there are other legendary dogs out there that didn't need such an event to be created.

That, or the legends and poke'dex don't match up. I question the validity of both.
which is why i think of legends are folklore, their just really stronger pokemon :P

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The Legends surrounding the legendary dogs say that it was due to Ho-Oh resurrecting them from the burning down Tin Tower. It may be possible that those *specific* three legendary dogs were created from that event, whereas there are other legendary dogs out there that didn't need such an event to be created.

That, or the legends and poke'dex don't match up. I question the validity of both.
I've always had this theory that there are "main" members of each species of legends. What I mean is that there could be the specific legendary Pokemon that each tale refers to, while lesser members of the same species also exist. For example, there could multiple lesser-powered Arceus, but there is the one "main" Arceus that created the universe.

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I'd remain calm, then whip out my Poke Balls and start battling this person. When I lose, I'd flip out on them, then beat the crap out of the trainer. (:

Either way, I find it to be a win-win situation on my behalf.
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which is why i think of legends are folklore, their just really stronger pokemon :P
The legends have been around for far longer than the pokedex have and, more often than not, are even more descriptive and accurate. Take the information on Ho-Oh, for example -- Ash was unable to find out what pokemon it was with his pokedex, and yet there was a rather accurate carving of the bird.

Let's also not forget that the incident of Tin Tower is less about *Legend* and more about *History*, considering that people actually saw the events in question.

The major point I will concede is that legends most likely contain a lot of logic jumps. Ho-Oh, for example, could have called on the Legendary Dogs to put out the fire in the tower as opposed to actually creating them itself -- as long as a human does not notice the dogs entering the tower, the story is not implausible according to limited perspective.

Poke'dexes, however, are *also* the results of human experience and study. It might be remarkably well-made and incredibly informative, but it was created by human hands, as well, and thus using it as a source of information is only marginably better than using the old folklorist legends of old, especially when it comes down to pokemon that are incredibly difficult to study scientifically. For all we know, a group of scientists could have seen Entei appear *at the site* of a newly forming volcano (which would make sense, considering Entei's affinity to volcanoes), and then erroneously attribute the new volcano as a sign of the birth of a "new Entei".

It is also worth mentioning that a good deal of legendary pokemon poke'dex entries use the phrase "It is said", indicating that it is possible the information is not verified by science directly, but by legends, themselves.

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The legends have been around for far longer than the pokedex have and, more often than not, are even more descriptive and accurate. Take the information on Ho-Oh, for example -- Ash was unable to find out what pokemon it was with his pokedex, and yet there was a rather accurate carving of the bird.

Let's also not forget that the incident of Tin Tower is less about *Legend* and more about *History*, considering that people actually saw the events in question.

The major point I will concede is that legends most likely contain a lot of logic jumps. Ho-Oh, for example, could have called on the Legendary Dogs to put out the fire in the tower as opposed to actually creating them itself -- as long as a human does not notice the dogs entering the tower, the story is not implausible according to limited perspective.

Poke'dexes, however, are *also* the results of human experience and study. It might be remarkably well-made and incredibly informative, but it was created by human hands, as well, and thus using it as a source of information is only marginably better than using the old folklorist legends of old, especially when it comes down to pokemon that are incredibly difficult to study scientifically. For all we know, a group of scientists could have seen Entei appear *at the site* of a newly forming volcano (which would make sense, considering Entei's affinity to volcanoes), and then erroneously attribute the new volcano as a sign of the birth of a "new Entei".

It is also worth mentioning that a good deal of legendary pokemon poke'dex entries use the phrase "It is said", indicating that it is possible the information is not verified by science directly, but by legends, themselves.
you make an excellent point

but lets say for a moment, its humans who are blind by the truth
they attribute entei being born at the volcano, but what if he was the creator of the volcano instead? or maybe the volcano and entei werre born one in the same
a simple observation,can be taken in many ways.

a real life example:
a bees dance
the bees interpret it as a sign of honey, as do humans
i see a infinity symbol in the steps

you can always tell the obvious, or whats thought to be correct at first glance, but the un-obvious could end up truest truth ;)

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its humans who are blind by the truth
That is the point I was trying to make. Even if the scientists have observed an Entei at the place a new volcano has risen, or increased Entei activity, does not mean that a new volcano is a sign of a newborn Entei.

I even mentioned the same thing here regarding legends.

The major point I will concede is that legends most likely contain a lot of logic jumps. Ho-Oh, for example, could have called on the Legendary Dogs to put out the fire in the tower as opposed to actually creating them itself -- as long as a human does not notice the dogs entering the tower, the story is not implausible according to limited perspective.
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But this has been steadily moving further and further off-topic.

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If a trainer challenged me and pulled out a legendary pokemon (let's say Articuno in this case), I'd take it as a great chance to both learn more about said pokemon as well as the rare opportunity to see one up close and personal. Even if I were to lose the battle completely, it'd be worth it to see such a dazzling display of power, no?

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That is the point I was trying to make. Even if the scientists have observed an Entei at the place a new volcano has risen, or increased Entei activity, does not mean that a new volcano is a sign of a newborn Entei.

I even mentioned the same thing here regarding legends.



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But this has been steadily moving further and further off-topic.

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If a trainer challenged me and pulled out a legendary pokemon (let's say Articuno in this case), I'd take it as a great chance to both learn more about said pokemon as well as the rare opportunity to see one up close and personal. Even if I were to lose the battle completely, it'd be worth it to see such a dazzling display of power, no?
i agree to all points made ^_^

id love to see giratina in real life XD
but to be honest, i say bring on the shiny shuckles their so cute XD

but for legends i would want to face all of them in battle, my and Z (my porygon-Z) and Cynder (my Typhlosion) would own all of them anyways :P

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But this has been steadily moving further and further off-topic.
I have one more important point to add! xP

In Pokemon Colosseum a character exclaims "It's, a Ho-oh!" So there is in fact, multiple Ho-ohs.
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i agree to all points made ^_^

id love to see giratina in real life XD
but to be honest, i say bring on the shiny shuckles their so cute XD

but for legends i would want to face all of them in battle, my and Z (my porygon-Z) and Cynder (my Typhlosion) would own all of them anyways :P
Yup! Those are great too! Imagine Jirachi is real! Man! I'll make a wish straight!
Barry lose!

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I would go all Rocket on their ass, and steal the dang thing! Naw, just kidding. Even I have certain standards. In reality, I'd probably just get my Porygon to send them reeling with Hyper Beam.
If your name was Dexter Phillip, would you have a 'Dex to fill up? Hooray for corny puns.



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Yes, I agree. This part of the game seems dumb and illogical. I'm not saying you shouldn't catch legendaries, but it doesn't seem kosher to the storyline if you use it in battle. I keep all my legendaries in a special spot in my PC. This is a good point :D
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Yes, I agree. This part of the game seems dumb and illogical. I'm not saying you shouldn't catch legendaries, but it doesn't seem kosher to the storyline if you use it in battle. I keep all my legendaries in a special spot in my PC. This is a good point :D
Yeah, I can see what's your point there.
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Yup! Those are great too! Imagine Jirachi is real! Man! I'll make a wish straight!
i know my wish, same thing ive wished since thanksgiving of 2008.......

anyways imagine of you were the trainer with a legendary, how would you react if the opponent just threw a common Bidoof against your...... celebi per say lol

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I have one more important point to add! xP

In Pokemon Colosseum a character exclaims "It's, a Ho-oh!" So there is in fact, multiple Ho-ohs.
"A" is simply an indefinite article. Its use does not imply a plural, or even objects outside the one being demonstrated.

If I have a pear, I have a pear. If I see a rabid raccoon, I see a rabid raccoon. These statements alone do not tell you whether I have more than one pear or this is my only one, or if I know there are more than one raccoons about.

Or, to chalk it up to programming, it is slightly easier to put "It's a [pokemon name]!" and apply it to every pokemon as opposed to applying it to the majority and having a special legendary message appear for legendaries. If the message was more direct ("Look! It's the one and only Ho-Oh that exists!"), then I will agree with your point. Until then, I am a skeptic.