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Old March 28th, 2011 (7:50 PM).
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See, I wish I was better at talking when I'm tired. I definitely agree that it would be a challenge, in fact, I would do it if it stayed up for long enough (After I finish all the Monotypes, I'm going to do all of the other challenges at least once, I think. Shouldn't take that long...).

The curse of the monotype is that it is sort of the bar for challenges. I know that at least for me, and I certainly can't speak for all challengers here, but I always look at a challenge and think, "would I have more fun doing this challenge or doing a monotype/solo/nuzlocke." Because there's no point in doing a challenge if you don't have fun. Unfortunately, I usually would have more fun doing one of the popular ones. I really don't even know why. Its probably not that way for most of the challengers. Maybe I just am an exception in feeling that most challenges are sort of dull.

The monotype is so different because you are so weak to something I guess. It's the perfect balance between difficulty, time, and fun.

Tl;dr: I don't know why I like monotypes so much, and I'm just throwing my two cents in. Also I'd do the challenge, I'm just concerned about a lot of other people doing it.
Here's what I see about monotypes: The variety that is involved is amazing, and the freedom you have (mostly - the less common types aside) is what makes the challenge so fun for me. You have the opportunity to use pokemon you have never used before. Throw in the perfect combination of the ultimate challenge, and the bar is set.

I feel that because just doing monotypes includes so much variety and fun, yet is not overly difficult, other challenges (solo and Nozlockes aside) just can't match up over time. Most people the other challenges once and then never do it again, whereas there are so many monotypes possible that people keep coming back, and Nuzlockes are an Experience.

Anyway, thats my two cents.

I actually think that this new Seasons challenge is one of the better ones I've seen in a while - even better than the Username one, which I enjoyed a lot, but which lacks the repetitive aspect that Monotypes and Nuzlockes do. The Season one is something I think has the potential to have more repetition.
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    well I kinda saw the suggjestion as breaking away from it, it doesn't matter how you do it, or with what pokemon, (ex. trying to reduce encounter rate by repel or turning the game off and on agian, only doing wild battles and avoiding trainers, vice-verca)

    I mean I get the fact it's a rather "open" thing, but I kinda like it that way, I just wish I could construct it with rules and things to make it from becoming too easy/hard, which is why I came to the C&ID (If this wasn't about my suggjestion, then I misread, in which case, ignore me and carry on as you like )
    Nope, you just misread.

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    Monotypes are really fun and all, but the worst part about them are that there are those types which are quite hard, and those types which are quite easy, due to their diversity with other typing. I mean look at say, the Flying type. There's so much diversity with Water, Bug, Fire, Ground and pretty much another type which will really help you along the way. Struggling against Wattson for flying? Get a Gligar on your team! Some other types, such as Grass which don't have many secondary types, would be much harder.

    Also, I do have a few challenges which would be fun in mind, but not really worthy of a thread, except maybe one for say, independence day. Pretty much like the St. Patrick's Day one, except different things depending on the challenge. So something like this.
    - For the American Flag's red, you must choose a Red Pokemon
    - For blue, a blue Pokemon.
    - White for White Pokemon.
    - For fireworks, a Pokemon which learns Selfdestruct/Explosion via level
    - For popular picnics, a Pokemon which learns Stockpile via level.

    Something like that, and that sort of challenge could vary for different themes as well.
    Grass is actually what I'm doing now! Gotta finish this St. Patty's Challenge before Friday at midnight...

    Also, yeah, I can see that happening around july. Its basically the same shmeal as the seasons sort of, from what I can tell.

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    Here's what I see about monotypes: The variety that is involved is amazing, and the freedom you have (mostly - the less common types aside) is what makes the challenge so fun for me. You have the opportunity to use pokemon you have never used before. Throw in the perfect combination of the ultimate challenge, and the bar is set.

    I feel that because just doing monotypes includes so much variety and fun, yet is not overly difficult, other challenges (solo and Nozlockes aside) just can't match up over time. Most people the other challenges once and then never do it again, whereas there are so many monotypes possible that people keep coming back, and Nuzlockes are an Experience.

    Anyway, thats my two cents.

    I actually think that this new Seasons challenge is one of the better ones I've seen in a while - even better than the Username one, which I enjoyed a lot, but which lacks the repetitive aspect that Monotypes and Nuzlockes do. The Season one is something I think has the potential to have more repetition.
    Well, Jd nailed what I was trying to say. It also makes you use Pokemon you wouldn't a lot of the time, especially if you're doing an Ultimate Ultimate Monotype, which is the new name for what Jd and I are doing. I done declared it now.

    One thing you guys should know about me, if you haven't figured it out yet, is that I am very very very competitive. I play a lot of games with friends and/or family (board, card, video, don't care), and I love playing them. That doesn't mean that I like showing off, I really just like the actual game playing. So, you hopefully can understand how I would prefer a challenge like what someone said last page and i'm calling the team point challenge (split into teams, you get points awarded to your team based on doing certain stuff, you lose points for doing certain stuff) over only use pokemon that evolve in a later game.

    And now for my attempt to revive a super awesome challenge. It was called the "Triple Trigen Monotype Master Challenge". Sorta is a combo challenge.

    Rules:
    1. You may only use three Pokemon (trio challenge)
    2. They have to share a type (monotype challenge)
    3. They have to all be from different generations, so you can only do it RSE and on (I did it on Platinum and had a blast)
    4. The challenge has a lot of requirements- you have to do the following:
    - Defeat the Elite Four (twice if they get tougher the second time)
    - Catch (not kill) every single legendary available in your game. Obviously, if you're doing Emerald, you can't catch Deoxys, but you still have to catch those annoying roamers.
    - Get every single frontier symbol (just silver, not gold)
    - Win at least one (something, don't remember) rank contest with each of your Pokemon. I can't remember if its a single Master, or a Normal in every type or what. Its something like that.

    This challenge got shut down after everyone thought it was too hard. Would there be any takers?
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    I see what you mean about monotypes, and I wasn't trying to shoot them down, but I was just suggesting something that had just crossed me mind.

    Oh, and I'm very interested in the seasons challenge. Right now I am going through and deciding on teams for each season to decide which to do first. I havn't posted in the thread yet though..
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      And now for my attempt to revive a super awesome challenge. It was called the "Triple Trigen Monotype Master Challenge". Sorta is a combo challenge.

      Rules:
      1. You may only use three Pokemon (trio challenge)
      2. They have to share a type (monotype challenge)
      3. They have to all be from different generations, so you can only do it RSE and on (I did it on Platinum and had a blast)
      4. The challenge has a lot of requirements- you have to do the following:
      - Defeat the Elite Four (twice if they get tougher the second time)
      - Catch (not kill) every single legendary available in your game. Obviously, if you're doing Emerald, you can't catch Deoxys, but you still have to catch those annoying roamers.
      - Get every single frontier symbol (just silver, not gold)
      - Win at least one (something, don't remember) rank contest with each of your Pokemon. I can't remember if its a single Master, or a Normal in every type or what. Its something like that.

      This challenge got shut down after everyone thought it was too hard. Would there be any takers?
      Well, I would certainly make an attempt at this, however...

      Depending on the game (unless you have to play a game with the Battle Frontier) you will have one less task to accomplish. Plus, the catching all legendaries rule irks me...I don't really know why, but it does. I mean its not because its hard, don't get me wrong, but something puts me off.

      Otherwise I would definitely make an attempt. (Would hacking Pokemon in be allowed ?)
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      I think a challenge in which you don't have to restart your game would be good so what about a challenge involving contests. (yes I know its been done before)
      -Pokemon R/S/E only-

      The rules:
      -You must choose a moveset.
      -You must choose 5 different Pokemon (from different evolution lines) that can learn that moveset.
      -You must complete each contest with a different Pokemon and have their paintings offered to be done.
      -All Pokemon must have the chosen moveset.
      -Challenge is done when a painting has been done of each of your Pokemon.

      What do you people think?
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      I'm not sure about teh contest challenge idea. It doesn't really seem like the type of challenge people would play, since Contests aren't the main focus of Pokemon. I mean, if you could choose to be a Pokemon Coordinator, then that'd be an awesome challenge. :)

      I was thinking of another challenge, which would have been my first white challenge, but I decided to expand it. I would call it the Sonata ♪/Tra la la ♪ challenge. Simply put, all of your Pokemon would have to learn at least 3 sound-based moves, and keep them throughout your entire challenge. But that would mean just using Pokemon which can learn Growl, but if you want to make it harder, you could only use Pokemon which have "singing" moves, like Sing, Hyper Voice, Uproar etc.
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        I have an idea that I think could be quite exciting!

        In this challenge you can only ever have 1 Pokemon any type (If you have caught Sigilyph you cant have Emolga) and if it faints you can never use that type again! You must battle through each game to completion (E4 Champion or Red) without having all your types eliminated. Choose your Pokemon wisely!

        Basically here are the rules:

        1) You can only use one Pokemon of each type
        2) If your Pokemon faints it is released/ boxed forever
        3) If your Pokemon dies you cannot replace it with another of the same type
        4) Game over if all your Pokemon die
        5) No legends

        Optional rules:

        1) If your Pokemon dies you cannot use the same type MOVES as the Pokemon that died ever again
        2) You can only have 10 types
        3) NO HM slaves unless you cannot get past the object with any of your Pokemon
        4) You must train 6 Pokemon equally in your team once you have assembled it (recommended)
        5) If a Pokemon of dual typing faints you may choose 1 of the types to eliminate instead of both

        What do you guys think? Any suggestions to make it better?
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          I like the concept, but i don't think dual types should count as both their types, as with only using single types, its already limited. Remember you already only have 15-17 pokemon, where a Nuzlocke gives you 20-40 random ones.

          You could make dual types count as a set one of their types, or leave it up to the challenger with type he wants to use it as.

          + No legend as a actual rule
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            I like the concept, but i don't think dual types should count as both their types, as with only using single types, its already limited. Remember you already only have 15-17 pokemon, where a Nuzlocke gives you 20-40 random ones.

            You could make dual types count as a set one of their types, or leave it up to the challenger with type he wants to use it as.

            + No legend as a actual rule
            Yeah, I like these additions. i think what you're trying to say is: if you use an Emonga or whatever its called, and it faints, you then choose if you want him to count as your electric or flying type. You may then use another of the other type (if you count him as flying, you can use a Zebstrika).

            I also don't really like the moveset rule, because around the end of the game, I usually have Pokemon that have four different types of moves, and sometimes if they're dual type I only have one move that matches one of their types. That knocks out 1/3 of the types if he faints. Other than that, I like it.

            On second thought, it really doesn't matter for me, because if there is any part of the challenge about releasing Pokemon that faint, I always overlevel them so that they can't ever faint.
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              I like the concept, but i don't think dual types should count as both their types, as with only using single types, its already limited. Remember you already only have 15-17 pokemon, where a Nuzlocke gives you 20-40 random ones.

              You could make dual types count as a set one of their types, or leave it up to the challenger with type he wants to use it as.

              + No legend as a actual rule
              I think it would be best incorporated as an optional rule if you find it too limiting. It kind of takes away the point of the challenge in my opinion as when you lose the Pokemon you should lose the type.

              As for the legend rule, I agree and will edit the post.

              *EDIT* Myrhhman, you could disregard that rule as it is optional! It is there for anyone who wants an extra challenge.

              Thank you for your thoughts
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              I have an idea that I think could be quite exciting!

              In this challenge you can only ever have 1 Pokemon any type (If you have caught Sigilyph you cant have Emolga) and if it faints you can never use that type again! You must battle through each game to completion (E4 Champion or Red) without having all your types eliminated. Choose your Pokemon wisely!

              Basically here are the rules:

              1) You can only use one Pokemon of each type
              2) If your Pokemon faints it is released/ boxed forever
              3) If your Pokemon dies you cannot replace it with another of the same type
              4) Game over if all your Pokemon die
              5) No legends

              Optional rules:

              1) If your Pokemon dies you cannot use the same type MOVES as the Pokemon that died ever again
              2) You can only have 10 types
              3) NO HM slaves unless you cannot get past the object with any of your Pokemon
              4) You must train 6 Pokemon equally in your team once you have assembled it (recommended)
              5) If a Pokemon of dual typing faints you may choose 1 of the types to eliminate instead of both

              What do you guys think? Any suggestions to make it better?
              I really like this idea. It would be fun to keep track and to see if you can get through the game. I would probably add a rule for myself saying that you can't grind past a certain level if you are before a certain part (like your Pokemon can't be leveled higher than the Gym Leader's Pokemon).
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              Old March 30th, 2011 (6:21 PM).
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                I really like this idea. It would be fun to keep track and to see if you can get through the game. I would probably add a rule for myself saying that you can't grind past a certain level if you are before a certain part (like your Pokemon can't be leveled higher than the Gym Leader's Pokemon).
                Oh then it would be a challenge for me too.
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                Old March 31st, 2011 (2:32 AM). Edited March 31st, 2011 by Porygon Z.
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                  Gosh, finally I can be back.
                  With Internet problems and school, I really had a few hours for myself, and I've played Black over and over :D
                  Hope I can stay for a while this time!

                  So, I think I'll start some B/W challenges...

                  And I bring you an idea for a new one!

                  The Hardest Challenge

                  In this challenge, you have make your way through all the game (also post-game stuff) with Pokèmon not very effective (as much as possible) on any Trainer or Gym Leader you meet!

                  So, if you're against Elesa, say, you have to use a Water-type.

                  It's really hard, I know, but it could be interesting and also a way to train Pokèmon you've never trained before. Requires also a lot of grinding :D
                  I've tried it, and it was really funny, maybe more long then I've excepted, but it was worth it.
                  And I think I would allow to hack, just not Legends

                  What do you say? Too hard for you?
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                  Maybe I interpreted that wrongly, but I thought you meant a not-very effective challenge, where you would have to only use Pokemon which are not very effective against the gym leaders, so fightng against Elesa, you would have to use a Flying, or Steel type, since their moves are weakened against Elesa's Pokemon.
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                    Nope, you just misread.

                    Grass is actually what I'm doing now! Gotta finish this St. Patty's Challenge before Friday at midnight...

                    Also, yeah, I can see that happening around july. Its basically the same shmeal as the seasons sort of, from what I can tell.


                    Well, Jd nailed what I was trying to say. It also makes you use Pokemon you wouldn't a lot of the time, especially if you're doing an Ultimate Ultimate Monotype, which is the new name for what Jd and I are doing. I done declared it now.

                    One thing you guys should know about me, if you haven't figured it out yet, is that I am very very very competitive. I play a lot of games with friends and/or family (board, card, video, don't care), and I love playing them. That doesn't mean that I like showing off, I really just like the actual game playing. So, you hopefully can understand how I would prefer a challenge like what someone said last page and i'm calling the team point challenge (split into teams, you get points awarded to your team based on doing certain stuff, you lose points for doing certain stuff) over only use pokemon that evolve in a later game.

                    And now for my attempt to revive a super awesome challenge. It was called the "Triple Trigen Monotype Master Challenge". Sorta is a combo challenge.

                    Rules:
                    1. You may only use three Pokemon (trio challenge)
                    2. They have to share a type (monotype challenge)
                    3. They have to all be from different generations, so you can only do it RSE and on (I did it on Platinum and had a blast)
                    4. The challenge has a lot of requirements- you have to do the following:
                    - Defeat the Elite Four (twice if they get tougher the second time)
                    - Catch (not kill) every single legendary available in your game. Obviously, if you're doing Emerald, you can't catch Deoxys, but you still have to catch those annoying roamers.
                    - Get every single frontier symbol (just silver, not gold)
                    - Win at least one (something, don't remember) rank contest with each of your Pokemon. I can't remember if its a single Master, or a Normal in every type or what. Its something like that.

                    This challenge got shut down after everyone thought it was too hard. Would there be any takers?
                    Hey thanks for trying to revive my challenge :D Its good to know others besides me enjoyed the challenge. I'm actually working on some new ones at the moment, that can in corporate the 5th gen games as well.
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                      Hey thanks for trying to revive my challenge :D Its good to know crazys besides me enjoyed the challenge. I'm actually working on some new ones at the moment, that can in corporate the 5th gen Blankets as well.
                      I did really enjoy playing my Platinum Blanket that way. And battleing the frontier was pretty fun too. Take that, applesauce filter.

                      Edit: Got three in one post.
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                      I should probably play my HeartGold game. Also, how are you guys liking my Reshiram theme? I made Furnace a matching Zekrom theme and I think we look really good! Especially when post post after each other. I should go welcome new members in Furnace's forum! That sounds like a lot of fun! Let's keep this discussion going! Challenges are so fun! AGONY!!!!!

                      Phew. Enough of that. But really, just coming here to let y'all know that if you haven't finished the event, you have a little over an hour to post your final update, otherwise you don't get your emblem! ...Oooops, didn't escape that one, did I?
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                      Wordfilters? I am dissapoint. If we were going to have word censors, THE GREATEST PEOPLE EVER could have at least originated from Pokemon Vietnamese Crystal version. Anyhow, to keep this post relevant, I've been playing HeartGold version quite a bit, lately, so expect and update or two on my run, in the future.
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                        I did really enjoy playing my Platinum Blanket that way. And Arresting the frontier was pretty fun too. Take that, applesauce filter.

                        Edit: Got three in one post.
                        If you want to help just PM or VM me to set up some good challenges like the trigen.
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                          So who's our new mod, Syd?
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                          Old April 1st, 2011 (9:33 AM).
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                          You're stuck with Erik. He smells nice, watches Ru Paul, and he's fabulous. idk how you're gunna survive.

                          I'm stuck modding Cherrims. >:o Go post in there and make a big scene, I need something to do. :(
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                          Old April 1st, 2011 (11:25 AM).
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                          Ah, Erik, he smells a bit too rosy for this forum. I say the best course of action, would be to give him a session with 560cool, he smells funny.
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                          Old April 1st, 2011 (12:35 PM).
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                            Noooo, but Sydian is the best mod. ever created D:

                            Why couldn't Erik mod D/P/Pt, don't you have a say in this? I mean, I assume that your happy modering here, so why can't you continue doing what you love?
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                            Old April 1st, 2011 (1:08 PM).
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                              I think Syd requested someone else to take over because of how many threads keep getting made over and over with challenge ideas when people clearly didn't read the rules for making chalenges or something. Syd made the rules thing as sort of a last resort thing, and it didn't really work. I think Eric might have more patience, maybe? Idk.
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