3rd Gen Why do people hate the hoenn pokes so much? Page 12

Started by GreenLanturn June 26th, 2010 10:34 AM
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I don't like them to be honest.

Many of them are weird (Lileep, Cradily, Zigzagoon, Breloom, Castform, Kecleon, Chimeco, Mawile, Sableye, Ralts, Nosepass, Gulpin, Spinda, Trapinch and Bagon just to name a few), not cute at all and some are ugly as hell.
Even the starters look like someone had like nine designs on a table and then he randomly picked three of them while having his eyes closed. They don't share any characteristics with eachother and look like they have nothing to do with each other.

Of course, there are some I like a lot (like Cacturne, Numel, Camerupt and Altaria) but 95% of them are... Nah...


I didn't like the region and I HATED the water routes (TEN?? TEN?? EIGHT OF THEM AT THE SAME TIME???) and music (Irritating. As hell. All of them). Also the storyline sucked badly. And the sprites... Awkward.
I hated the running sprites. The player characters, especially Brendan, looked like they were having a wank while running...

I was so glad when I found out that Sinnoh didn't have as weird and ugly Pokemon as Hoenn. And less water routes and an interesting region and better storyline. And better villainous team (Team Aqua/Magma= Let's make a world without water/land!!! Really??).

I don't like Hoenn, mostly because there was too many new things (double battles, natures, abilities, EV cap), bad region and pokemon in one game. All that introduced at the same time... It felt too much for one game.
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Why would anybody hate 3rd Gen?
My first ever Pokémon game was Ruby, and I FRIGGIN' LOVED IT! The plot was great and, unlike most generations (namely 5th), the plot didn't drag on for five weeks to come to a ridiculous conclusion in some magical castle. Instead, you saved the world from a bunch of terrorists trying to destroy it (by rather bizarre methods, yeah, but it is Nintendo we're talking about here...) - EPIC.
As for the Pokémon, Torchic is my favourite starter of all time and the only Pokémon I didn't really like were Claydol and those freaky fossil ones. All the others - EPIC!

The only thing I really disliked was discovering that I couldn't get to Johto or Kanto...

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I am personally not sure why people dislike hoenn, I mean I started playing pokemon when it was already into Gen. 4, and I always thought the Hoenn games were awesome, but when B&W came out, I actually thought it was a fan-made game for a while because it didn't reach my expectations. In other words, I think maybe many die-hard pokemon fans dislike Hoenn is because they started playing from red and blue or GSC and grew up liking them, but when hoenn came out, they thought it was just a cheap ripoff.
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R/S/E were great games but the problem for me was the abundance of useless pokemon. There were pokemons i LOVED(Mudkip,Kyogre,Manectric) and ones that i HATED(zigzagoon,Tailow,silcoon).

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I have an answer to why I hate the hoenn pokemon so much

I can answer this with one word

Spoink

Gen I and Gen II were so great its like the creativity pool was lacking for monster design for the 3rd gen, and it must be true when you combine a pig and a spring


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I have an answer to why I hate the hoenn pokemon so much

I can answer this with one word

Spoink

Gen I and Gen II were so great its like the creativity pool was lacking for monster design for the 3rd gen, and it must be true when you combine a pig and a spring
Seriously??? I think a pig with a spring for the lower half of its body and a shiny gem on its head is more creative than a random dog with a beret and paint on its tail (smeargle) or a strangely humanlike thing with boxing gloves and a skirt (hitmonchan.)
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I have an answer to why I hate the hoenn pokemon so much

I can answer this with one word

Spoink

Gen I and Gen II were so great its like the creativity pool was lacking for monster design for the 3rd gen, and it must be true when you combine a pig and a spring
Squirtle is just a turtle. 1st Gen Creativity ftw.

I personally loved Hoenn.
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Hoenn was the first region I played the games for. Even though Plusle, Minun, Electrike and Manectric were the only new Electric-types back then. Everyone's saying that the Hoenn Pokes are stupid, well I think some of them look cute!!! My fave was Roselia.
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In terms of pokemon; 3rd gen was my absolute favorite (though 5th gan may be starting to overpower that...)
In terms of pokemon sprites; not all were very good, but I don't mind.
In terms of...all the other sprites and overworld; I don't really like how it looks, but it was still much, much better than previous games.
In terms of storyline; Sure perhaps not the greatest, but it was the greatest so far.
In terms of the changes; I don't see why anybody would hate the changes. Sure, some people don't like change (my sister included) so they don't like all of the newer pokemon, but guess what? The world is full of change. I think these were changes for the better.
In terms of the region itself; Pretty good, perhaps all of the water routes were too much, but I loved Dive and that just made more oppurtunities for it :3
In terms of the evil team; ... ...okay, hate them all you want, I don't really care.
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I'm not too sure why people didn't like them. I like them, personally. My top two favorite Pokemon are Hoenn Pokemon (Gardevoir and Mawile). I actually really liked Hoenn itself as well, minus all the water routes.
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Lest be honest,after the brillance of johto,hoenn was AWFUL.

The pokemon looked crap the music was annoying as hell and the whole lacked a good feel about it.

PLus it leftout stuff from johto.For instance you cant travel to two different regions(BIG MISS),no day and night,no radio,the legendarys were crap.

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This irritates me because Hoenn is a region just like Kanto & Johto and offers the same aspects, yet just because it wasn't original like R/B/Y/G/S/C means it was bad? then that must mean the same for Sinnoh & Unova, right? My favourite region is Hoenn, always has always will, lets not forget it introduced some pretty amazing Pokémon such as Metagross, Salamence, Sceptile, Blaizken, Swampert, Slaking, Kyogre, Groudon, Rayquaza, the list goes on but I do think Hoenn doesn't get as much credit as it should, I know people have their likes and dislikes but still. ~ Hoping for a remake, then people would probally appreciate it more.

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Lest be honest,after the brillance of johto,hoenn was AWFUL.

The pokemon looked crap the music was annoying as hell and the whole lacked a good feel about it.

PLus it leftout stuff from johto.For instance you cant travel to two different regions(BIG MISS),no day and night,no radio,the legendarys were crap.

(This post has been seperated into two pieces. One which is kind of harsh towards Jhoto (But is my true opinion) and another sugar-coated version.)

Sugar-Coated Version
Can you please stop pretending that's a fact? I differ in opinion in many things: I think Heonn's music is superior, the pokemon in Heonn were much more creative and awesome in comparison to Jhoto's, I prefer a single region rather then two because it lets me focus on a single objective, the radio was very annoying, and although Heonn lacked day and night (I admit, that was pure failure), the legendaries were cooler and high-quality compared to Jhoto's low-quality legendaries.
IN MY OPINION.


Harsh-ish Version
Please don't take this as trolling 'cause it's not. I'm not trying to offend anybody, and I'm just stating my opinion in response to your's.

But.....


<rant>UGGGGHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!! Why does everybody always say that? I thought Jhoto was AWFUL. That's right. I said Jhoto was AWFUL.
Normally, I wouldn't be shouting like a deranged lunatic, but it irrates me that everybody always thinks Jhoto is always so great and blah blah blah, yet they're always bashing Heonn without any respect for the people who liked the region. The Jhoto pokemon were CRAP, the Jhoto music was nice (see, I'm being honest) but still not on par with Heonn's, I prefer when I can focus on only one region rather than two, I admit, the loss of day and night was pure failure, but radio was extremely annoying, and Jhoto's legendaries were the most PUKE-HORRIBLE I've seen.


And most importantly, Heonn was an INDEPENDENT region, and it didn't have to leech off another region's success, something a lot of people aren't realizing.
</rant>


This irritates me because Hoenn is a region just like Kanto & Johto and offers the same aspects, yet just because it wasn't original like R/B/Y/G/S/C means it was bad? then that must mean the same for Sinnoh & Unova, right? My favourite region is Hoenn, always has always will, lets not forget it introduced some pretty amazing Pokémon such as Metagross, Salamence, Sceptile, Blaizken, Swampert, Slaking, Kyogre, Groudon, Rayquaza, the list goes on but I do think Hoenn doesn't get as much credit as it should, I know people have their likes and dislikes but still. ~ Hoping for a remake, then people would probally appreciate it more.
At least somebody is unbiased here--I don't wanna be mean, but I think people aren't giving the third Gen a chance because they're too trapped by their childhood memories.

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i know, i dont see why people hate them.. i still have my blaziken from ruby which i have had since 2003. i loved the hoenn pokemon i really want a r/s/e remake to be released by nintendo cuz hoenn was amazing
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Not sure if it's been mentioned in here yet (12 pages, lol), but by 2003, most of the original audience (for R/B/Y/G/S/C) had hit puberty and grown out of Pokemon, leading to a lot of the bashing. (I was one of them) The newer, younger audience wasn't quite used to Pokemon yet either. Just a case of bad transition in my opinion. Now that the franchise is so storied and old, it's not really a big deal anymore. (For B/W, and anything else in the future)

That, and I remember Yu-Gi-Oh being hot at the time.

I like most of the Hoenn Pokes now, and the region. It's the lack of Day/Night and the ugly sprites/tiles that I don't like.

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Not sure if it's been mentioned in here yet (12 pages, lol), but by 2003, most of the original audience (for R/B/Y/G/S/C) had hit puberty and grown out of Pokemon, leading to a lot of the bashing. (I was one of them) The newer, younger audience wasn't quite used to Pokemon yet either. Just a case of bad transition in my opinion. Now that the franchise is so storied and old, it's not really a big deal anymore. (For B/W, and anything else in the future)

That, and I remember Yu-Gi-Oh being hot at the time.

I like most of the Hoenn Pokes now, and the region. It's the lack of Day/Night and the ugly sprites/tiles that I don't like.
Yeah, that's a good point because back around that time, I wasn't much of a fan for Hoenn and Pokémon R/S/E, but not they're my favourite games and I'm sure thats the case with alot of people who used to around that time didn't like it but now have tried it and they really like it because it did over a great amount of brilliant Pokémon and they are spectacular games IMO :)

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Not all of the Pokemon were bad, but when I first ran into Plusle and Minun it really hit me... I still hate them to this day. I don't care how "cute" they are. They are nothing more than two Pichus with different colored ears and a plus/minus sign theme.

However, there are some designs I liked, like Tropius.

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I don't know why I hate them..
It felt for me as if the first gen was all cool exept for a few (like jinx and mr mime :|)
The second gen pokemon were mostly nice, but some weren't
The third was mostly lame, just a few were actually worth looking at

And then we have the fourth.... I have never ever seen such degree of failure.
I hate ALL pokémon and it looks like the creator was drunk, doing drugs and in labor at the same time or something...
It's just crap and I have no words for it. (I mean, look at the brown bunny with the fluffs everywhere, it looks just awkward...)
I played HG for a while and I was delighted none of this crap was included, but when I got to Kanto, there they were, so I quit.
The fifth isn't even worth thinking about.

But I guess you can say I might be just a little bit biased, as I grew up with the 1st and 2nd gen being totally awesome...