5th Gen Route 1?

Started by Llennoccm8 July 14th, 2010 4:59 PM
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Why are we starting at route 1? I do think it is a fresh new concept for a new gen, but what do you think?
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it should be 301, or 1001, I don't see why they would use the same route as Kanto, unless the route either looks just like kanto, or this is the last pokemon game. I just don't see why.
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lol well if it's a far off region, why would they have knowledge that Kanto has the same road names?

I'm glad they "reset" the route names again.
They know of it obviously. They reset them because they're so far away. Isshu is probably the biggest / most advanced region in the Pokemon world, so tourists probably go there first thing. If you went to a new place that is no where near close to any other region, wouldn't you think "Why is it route 650? Where are the previous ones? Why 650? Why not 723?"
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I'm not mad, I don't really care, and I didn't think about the fact that it IS a far off region... until then I just didn't see any reason why, that's all. Where did you see that piece of info lennoccm8?
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Yeah me too :). From the pic we saw of the entrance to the route it looks different than Kanto's route 1 and the best looking starting route :)
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I'm not mad, I don't really care, and I didn't think about the fact that it IS a far off region... until then I just didn't see any reason why, that's all. Where did you see that piece of info lennoccm8?
I'm guessing he saw it on Serebii, or a Pokemon news site. It was in the CoroCoro scans.
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I'm not mad, I don't really care, and I didn't think about the fact that it IS a far off region... until then I just didn't see any reason why, that's all. Where did you see that piece of info lennoccm8?
It was either PokeBeach, or Serebii, or Both.
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I mean, they did have a pattern. Kanto was the first game, so it started with route 1.
Johto picked up right where kanto left off, because it was connected to kanto.
Hoenn started with route 101, because it wasn't connected to Johto OR Kanto.
Sinnoh then started after another 100, jumping up to 201.
It would have made sense to me that Isshu would have been 301.
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I mean, they did have a pattern. Kanto was the first game, so it started with route 1.
Johto picked up right where kanto left off, because it was connected to kanto.
Hoenn started with route 101, because it wasn't connected to Johto OR Kanto.
Sinnoh then started after another 100, jumping up to 201.
It would have made sense to me that Isshu would have been 301.
Yes, but you don't understand. Here, I made a picture;



That's how far Isshu is ... probably farther.

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I mean, they did have a pattern. Kanto was the first game, so it started with route 1.
Johto picked up right where kanto left off, because it was connected to kanto.
Hoenn started with route 101, because it wasn't connected to Johto OR Kanto.
Sinnoh then started after another 100, jumping up to 201.
It would have made sense to me that Isshu would have been 301.
Kanto, Jhoto, Hoenn, and Sinnoh are all close to each other, but Isshu is far away. This contributes to the "Isshu = America" theory.


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I'm gradually becoming accustomed to the "route reset", and it does make sense when one considers how far Isshu is relative to Kanto, Johto, Hoenn, and Sinnoh. There's not really a reason to "continue" from a previous region. The quirks I have with the old system are that routes could potentially head into the 1000s after a few gens, which would feel a bit weird. Personally, I have never heard any route in the real world reference the thousands digit - but hey, this is Pokemon, not the real world! :P

Also, I discourage the 'skip' made whenever a new region is introduced. For example, with the Hoenn-Sinnoh jump, where are Routes 135-200? Johto-Hoenn is more notable, I guess, since Routes 47 and 48 just happened to randomly pop up in Johto in HGSS while they were nowhere to be seen in GSC (I guess routes can be built whenever one feels like making one, though...).

Anyway, if they're going to reset the routes now, I'd prefer it if Game Freak did it for every region in the future. Otherwise, if we find out in Gen VI that there's another region reasonably close in proximity to Isshu (that we haven't heard of yet, akin to the Kanto-Johto scenario) and they pick up from where Isshu left up, the routes might get confusing? People might be like, "which Route 28? In Johto or Isshu?" or something like that. And if we just so happen to get another remake of RBY on the 3DS (which I hope doesn't happen, for fear of redundancy) and are able to transfer Isshu's new Pokemon to that game, there's going to have to be an extra descriptor in the summary screen discerning Kanto's Routes from Isshu's. Yeah, it's a major stretch, but still a possibility, albeit a slim one. :)
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Kanto, Jhoto, Hoenn, and Sinnoh are all close to each other, but Isshu is far away. This contributes to the "Isshu = America" theory.

Well it can be in Shanghai like the other person in the other thread showed Shanghai is also far away from the other regions :)
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Well it can be in Shanghai like the other person in the other thread showed Shanghai is also far away from the other regions :)
No it really isnt. China is right next to Japan.

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No it really isnt. China is right next to Japan.
It's still a completely different nation. I believe that Isshu is New York myself, but Shanghai is at least a bit plausible.
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It's still a completely different nation. I believe that Isshu is New York myself, but Shanghai is at least a bit plausible.
I think the same thing, but we take a look at Shanghai and not say it's America like they confirmed it already, the geography also resembles that of
Shanghai a lot :) I don't mind if it does turn out to be China as I love China!
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Eh, this thread should merge with the Isshu Region Thread... but they did say that there was going to be a rebirth of the franchise. Also makes me think this won't be the last region. It's just the Kanto of another ride!

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