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Old July 19th, 2010 (3:17 PM).
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With the gym leaders in Johto being at rather low levels, does anyone find their Pokemon to get extremely overleveled? Currently, I have seven badges, and my team is as follows:

Feraligatr, 41
Onix, 41
Ampharos, 41
Togetic, 36
Magmar, 35
Bellossom, 31

I'm stomping through Goldenrod Radio Tower, but none of the Rockets have Pokemon above level 28. Even the leaders have low level Pokemon. Proton's highest is 33, Petrel's highest is 32, Ariana's highest is 32, and even Archer tops out at 38. Even my rival in the Underground has low-level Pokemon between levels 30 and 34.

Anyone experience this? It seems that after Whitney, the difficulty level in HG/SS just plummets. Usually, for each game, I level five levels for each gym leader. But my usual level-grinding style has given me a team much higher-leveled than the usual trainer team in these games. All the challenge is gone, and I know that will make things disastrous for when I fight Red.
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Old July 19th, 2010 (3:38 PM).
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Rockets generally have low level Pokemon. Their danger is their large numbers. Even then, I think you might be a tad overlevelled, I think I was about 5 lower at that point. Can't quite remember though.
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Old July 19th, 2010 (5:28 PM).
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I use the same training style as SgtPatches, but I level 5 levels for each town (this is because on my first playthrough, I was extremely underleveled). I'm at Blackthorn, and I have all level 50 Pokemon.

But at the Elite 4, the levels spike from the 30s to the 50s.
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Old July 19th, 2010 (5:36 PM).
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I have the inverse problem in every Pokemon game in that I never grind ever, and in my current HG playthrough, I'm at the E4 with lv.38-39 pokemon. So...no, not everyone finds themselves overlevelled at every point in the game.
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Old July 19th, 2010 (6:19 PM).
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It's not you being overleveled, everyone else is weak, but you did seem to grind a lot, most people have sub 35 at the 7th gym.
Whenever I start an adventure on HG/SS and find myself undereleveled I send them to sinnoh
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Old July 19th, 2010 (6:29 PM).
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They like to make it so you can level more than just one Pokemon, not just 1 and leave all the others behind like it used to be.
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Old July 19th, 2010 (9:56 PM).
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I thought that too. After goldenrod every battle was easy.
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Old July 19th, 2010 (10:13 PM).
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Battles were easy, btu since I always wanted my team at the same level, I was underleveled. Even so, yes, the game is easy, however there is a big leap of levels from gym leader to E4 to Red. Also, everybody in Kanto is underleveled. =/
Johto was a weird region to battle in...but still the most fun! :D
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Old July 19th, 2010 (11:20 PM).
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I had Lv40 Pokémon throughout the Elite Four and destroyed Lance with my Choice Scarf Tentacruel XD. What I dislike is that you have to train about 20 levels to get a somewhat easy fight with Red. If it weren't for my Meganium's Rock Climb confusing his Snorlax and him getting confusion hax, my Lv60 Pokémon would have lost. And - why can't there be a Pokémon Centre at the peak of Mt Silver? That way, you wouldn't have to teach a non-HM Slave Rock Climb and waste a Heart Scale to get the move back, unless it was like it was in my case; PoisonPowder. GAH HMs.
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Old July 19th, 2010 (11:58 PM).
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Usually my team are underlevelled when I reach the 8th gym (usually lv37-38), but because 4 members of my team came from the GTS I've only had to train two pokemon, the others were already higher than my other pokemon, as a result my team is about Lv40-41 before the 8th gym
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Old July 20th, 2010 (12:30 AM).
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My team was on lv. 35 on gym 8. And 45 on E4. But now I'm really underleveled on Kanto.
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Old July 20th, 2010 (1:16 AM).
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I had three Pokemon at lvl 40 when I fought Archer and so he didn't seem that low level. I actually found Proton to be really low level when you fight him at Slowpoke Well, lvl 12 Koffing doesn't cut it for a rocket executive, I went through like 20 trainers after fighting a lvl 13 Pidgeotto.
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Old July 20th, 2010 (2:04 AM).
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How you managed that, I don't know. I usually have to grind 10 levels by the time I reach the Elite 4 (just so my Pokémon are actually above level 50 when I do challenge them). Currently, my team of 6 is level 59/60/61, and I've already beaten all the Kanto Gym Leaders. I don't find it easy to over level at all, in fact I find it hard to train.
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Old July 20th, 2010 (2:16 AM).
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Well my pokemon are usually overlevelled, but that's intentional because I always grind a lot in every game. By the time I beat the E4 for the first time my Typhlosion was level 65 (All my others were level 60), and now he's level 96.
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Usually I am a bit underleveled before I challange the E4.
That's not a problem anymore though, I grinded a few days defeating E4 over and over again.. Now Kanto seems too easy. In my first playthrough I was VERY underleveled, it was hard to beat Kanto gym leaders.
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Old July 20th, 2010 (4:16 AM).
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How you managed that, I don't know. I usually have to grind 10 levels by the time I reach the Elite 4 (just so my Pokémon are actually above level 50 when I do challenge them). Currently, my team of 6 is level 59/60/61, and I've already beaten all the Kanto Gym Leaders. I don't find it easy to over level at all, in fact I find it hard to train.
This. I had to grind my entire team from Level 58 to 70 to challenge Red. I don't know how I'm going to get them to Level 100. I grinded a load throughout the game, yet I always seemed to fall behind. Since battling Team Rocket at the Radio Tower, my Pokémon have been noticeably underlevelled.
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Old July 20th, 2010 (4:37 AM).
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Lol. I'm really struggling.

But that's because of the order I did the gyms.

Falkner - Bugsy - Whitney - Morty - Pryce - Jasmine - Chuck - Claire

I spent tons of time only owning Slowpoke,Feraligatr and Arcanine, yet now suddenly I've got a Kingdra, Dratini and Tyrogue to level up xD.

My team, after Ho-oh:

Kingdra lv.39
Arcanine lv.38
Slowking lv.40
Feraligatr lv.42
Tyrogue lv.15
Dratini lv.17
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Old July 20th, 2010 (3:27 PM).
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as soon as you rechallenge the E4, theres no way of training pokemon from 40-60..
in johto however its quite easy
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Old July 20th, 2010 (5:28 PM).
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I was incredibly underleveled in the 5th gym (Chuck). His Poliwrath was around LVL. 30 (?) and my Pokemon werel, like, more than 5 levels lower than that.
It was just LUCK that got me beating the champion and getting to Johto.

...and now I'm extremely underleveled to Green with my LVL. 50-something Pokemon. Blue for the English game.
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Old July 20th, 2010 (5:43 PM).
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I thought that up until I got to Red. Even when I was
seriously underleveled I beat him. Meh. I didn't even
have to grind to fight the elite 4, I just spent a lot of
time wondering around and trying to get as many items
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Old July 20th, 2010 (5:50 PM).
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Me i passed the game with ease. exept for the E4. During the whole game i was a lot stronger than my opponent, and then, when it came to fight Lance, it took me like 5 try and a lot of item. i was far under his dragonite's level.
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Old July 20th, 2010 (10:52 PM).
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honestly yeah during the johto saga its easy but then you get to the elite four and the pokemon suddenly become way stronger, then you go to kanto and the pokemon are even more overleved
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Old July 21st, 2010 (12:34 AM).
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Has no one pointed this out yet? The reason your Pokemon are overleveled it because there are over 8 gyms? And that Red can be a major pain in the neck? Overall, I am pretty happy with HG/SS.
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Old July 21st, 2010 (1:23 AM).
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I never had too much of a problem. Some areas I was super over leveled, and others I struggled. Consistancy is a problem with these games, but I suppose that's what keeps it interesting.
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Old July 21st, 2010 (1:34 AM).
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Same problem.
I have L45+ pokemon (Highest is typhlosion at 59) after getting the 8th badge, in HG and now I'm wrecking the cool/ace trainers on the way to victory road...
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