How do you think humans will evolve in the future? Page 2

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Evolution dose not exist, its all straw arm arguments, and week evidence. That aside I will humor you and say I would love some gills. :3
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I have heard that we are going to evolve so that we only have four toes because our little toes are not needed to support us now that we have shoes! I hope we do not lose our little toes because I like them but you cannot stop evolution! Already we are losing them according to scientists.

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I have heard that we are going to evolve so that we only have four toes because our little toes are not needed to support us now that we have shoes! I hope we do not lose our little toes because I like them but you cannot stop evolution! Already we are losing them according to scientists.
No, the reason we won't have pinky toes is because we don't need them. Records of human bones throughout the past 100,000 years have show that the pinky toe is became gradually smaller because we don't use it. It is not needed to stand or walk. Shoes have nothing to do with it.
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...Seriously, humans did evolve. I may be religious, but I'm not going to deny it.

We've grown smaller, but in exchange we're much smarter, er maybe not...
Actually, we've grown bigger! We're gettin' bigger and hairier. Oh, and brown eyes and dark hair will rule the world someday (they're both dominant genes, while blue eyes and blond hair are recessive... basic genetics).

Anyway, I read earlier someone saying we've stopped evolving. I don't buy that too much. Theoretically, a species will only stop evolving if they've become "perfect", so to say, or mastered their environment. Crocodiles and sharks, for example, have hardly evolved because within their respective field, they are perfectly efficient, so they have no need to evolve and no genetic mutation will serve them in the "survival of the fittest". I don't believe we're quite there yet... in fact, I think we're a long way off from that.

Watch Wall-E. I think that's what we'll be like in the distant future. :P
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Bigger heads, less muscles, weaker bones, bigger eyes, significantry less pigment in the skin, and possibly a lung filtre to keep dirty things away.
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Evolution dose not exist, its all straw arm arguments, and week evidence. That aside I will humor you and say I would love some gills. :3
Thanks for supplying me with my daily dosage of blatant ignorance for the day. Do you have ANY idea of what evolution is? Here, educate yourself on why humans don't need gills.

...Seriously, humans did evolve. I may be religious, but I'm not going to deny it.

We've grown smaller, but in exchange we're much smarter, er maybe not...
You can put your faith in evolution and religion simultaneously - why does nobody understand that?
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You can put your faith in evolution and religion simultaneously - why does nobody understand that?
Evolution isn't a matter of faith, it's a matter of fact, and you simply can't accept it alongside religion. Not if you live by the technical side of either, at least. Evolution puts forth that there cannot be intelligence behind our design.

On topic though, I suppose the useless things like tonsils and the appendix will have to disappear.

Also, gills.

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But if that happens we won't be able to play This Little Piggy we won't have enough toes!
xDDD Thanks for making me laugh. I don't think we'll be evolving any time soon, if ever. But if we do, it'll probably just be a defense against disease.
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Until we fall prey to some huge disaster (ala Nuclear Winter), I don't think we will evolve.
As nice as it would be to evolve whiskers to avoid bumping into people, we won't. Not least because bumping into people isn't fatal, but mainly because we, as a species, have stagnated. Through the invention of clothing, medicine and the fact we do not choose our mates according to strength or intelligence or any other beneficial factor. Now I'm not saying medicine is bad, however, because it stops people dying from things like diseases and environmental factors.

EDIT: On a less serious note, it'd be cool to have a tail again (that makes it sound more like I once had a tail than intended XD). Imagine being able to hang from lamp posts and trees and stuff by your lovely curly tail. Plus it wouldn't be impossible seeing as some people are born with vestigial tails, we'd just have to make sure they get their fair share of "rumpy pumpy" and try to match them up.
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When i evolve i hope i learn hyper beam
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I think it's because the bigger our brains gets, the more nutrients we need to sustain it
Probably, and the bigger our brains get, the bigger the rest of our system will have to get to support it.
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Evolve? Nah, I do not think that will happen. I mean we were and will be always the same being God or whatever created us, unless you believe Darwin's theories.
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I had a scientific american discussing human evolution but i lost it and now i cant remeber what the articles said. Personaly, i belive we will begin losing our ability to store massive amounts of fat, as this is a usless abilty now. Those who are obese will be natrually selected by heart attacks as not fit to reproduce.
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Consider: Larger brain does not equal smarter.

Consider: The reason why the appendix / pinky toes are "useless" is because we've evolved out of their use. Fact is, it's hardwired into our biological make-up already, so we're going to have them regardless. There's... Not going to be a widespread gene that tells our body to stop making the pinky toes or anything. Having large pinky toes is not directly detrimental in any sense, so therefore there will be no progression to individuals having smaller pinky toes.

Consider: You CAN have faith in religion and evolution at the same time (that is, unless you interpret the Bible literally, which is an outlandish proposition in and of itself, giving rise to a hypocritical argument against Evolutionary Theory). I... Don't really want to get into this. Evolutionary Theory does not refute Intelligent Design at all; "random" changes in species' gene pools could have been spurred by a sentient being. Wait one second before you troll me -- I said /could have/.



Thanks for supplying me with my daily dosage of blatant ignorance for the day. Do you have ANY idea of what evolution is? Here, educate yourself on why humans don't need gills.



You can put your faith in evolution and religion simultaneously - why does nobody understand that?
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I had a scientific american discussing human evolution but i lost it and now i cant remeber what the articles said. Personaly, i belive we will begin losing our ability to store massive amounts of fat, as this is a usless abilty now. Those who are obese will be natrually selected by heart attacks as not fit to reproduce.
I lol'd at "naturally selected." One flaw I'd like to point out: even skinny people have the ability to store fat. EVERYONE has the ability to store fat. If someone didn't have that trait, then they'd die as infants anyway, so they couldn't pass on their genes. Also, where would the excess fat go? Gross. What about basic adipose tissue mechanisms?
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I lol'd at "naturally selected." One flaw I'd like to point out: even skinny people have the ability to store fat. EVERYONE has the ability to store fat. If someone didn't have that trait, then they'd die as infants anyway, so they couldn't pass on their genes. Also, where would the excess fat go? Gross. What about basic adipose tissue mechanisms?

You should have read more carefully. I said:
begin losing our ability to store massive amounts of fat
I should have worded that better, but i meant that we would lose our ability to store more fat than we need.

Evolution dose not exist, its all straw arm arguments, and week evidence. That aside I will humor you and say I would love some gills. :3
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You should have read more carefully. I said:


I should have worded that better, but i meant that we would lose our ability to store more fat than we need.
The same problems still apply. I never said that we would lose the ability to store fat altogether either.
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One flaw I'd like to point out: even skinny people have the ability to store fat. EVERYONE has the ability to store fat. If someone didn't have that trait, then they'd die as infants anyway, so they couldn't pass on their genes.
...I mean that we wouldent store fat at every chance we get, just enough to live.
Also, where would the excess fat go? Gross.
Wait, are we talking about pokemon evolution or real evolution?
Where does the excess fat go? Instead of storing the energy as fat, we burn it...?
What about basic adipose tissue mechanisms?
What the heck is that? ive never taken an anatomy couse so IDK what that means. If this is something really simple that im just not recognizing, please excuse me.

You can put your faith in evolution and religion simultaneously - why does nobody understand that?
I tried but the cognitive dissonance made my head hurt.
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...I mean that we wouldent store fat at every chance we get, just enough to live.

Wait, are we talking about pokemon evolution or real evolution?
Where does the excess fat go? Instead of storing the energy as fat, we burn it...?

What the heck is that? ive never taken an anatomy couse so IDK what that means. If this is something really simple that im just not recognizing, please excuse me.


I tried but the cognitive dissonance made my head hurt.
The only really plausible option is excretion, but that's just a medical disorder. And sort of gross.

Adipose cells divide in order to accommodate higher fat uptake and expand / contract depending on the amount of fat currently stored. As you eat more and overfill your body's supply, the adipose cells divide and make more room, quite possibly an infinite amount, technically. In order to undergo the change you propose, we'd need to either (1) stop taking in fat altogether, (2) stop our fat cells from dividing so we can't store it, or (3) burn the fat as soon as we intake it.

To address these solutions:

(1) This is evolutionary disadvantageous and cannot be controlled. We will be unable to function if we are unable to take in fats after we have hit a certain threshold since fats compose the majority of our energy source anyway. We would burn our fat stores and then have to take in more fat after that, and therefore have to eat more meals than is currently efficient and necessary.

(2) We can't stop our fat cells from dividing. We don't have the biological mechanisms inside our bodies. One way to go about this is to release growth-inhibitor hormones once we've hit the maximum number of cells, but that will also affect the entire body because we've already evolved so much into the body-specific receptor system. Then, this brings up the problem of where the fat goes when we can't hold anymore anyway.

(3) This is a high-maintenance solution with low long-term gain. See below:

When we burn our "extra" fat, where would the excess energy go? Sure we will use some of it for daily use, but the reason why we store fat already is because we use up a great majority of it in our daily trials anyway. We will be more active, but in exchange, we will need to eat a lot more to sustain the body's constant destruction of lipid molecules. Even so, there will be a lot of excess energy that plays no purpose in the body (and there has to be an output for energy anyway, since that's how the body works). If you say to developing the body, then (1) our body system will have to completely overhaul itself and change to incorporate a system that destroys and replaces muscles without destroying them through exercise (you can't just overlay muscle; you need to destroy and rebuild it), (2) therefore, we would need to burn a lot more energy and therefore need to eat a lot more and (3) we would probably die off from lack of food and our bodies will become a lot more inefficient. Moreover, the inherent problem with this solution is that you can't control how much fat is burnt anyway... What if you're completely idle?
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(2) We can't stop our fat cells from dividing. We don't have the biological mechanisms inside our bodies. One way to go about this is to release growth-inhibitor hormones once we've hit the maximum number of cells, but that will also affect the entire body because we've already evolved so much into the body-specific receptor system. Then, this brings up the problem of where the fat goes when we can't hold anymore anyway.
I will take #2, our cells stop dividing. Certian cells in your body already do not reproduce, so why not apply this to fat cells?
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i think humans will get bigger and less stronger turning more into sloths and lack any much body movement
Why would that happen? In what way will lack of movement and strength be beneficial to humanity in such a way that it is more likely for those traits to be passed on?
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Why would that happen? In what way will lack of movement and strength be beneficial to humanity in such a way that it is more likely for those traits to be passed on?
Evolution doesn't just improve on. It removes pointless things. As far as our bodies can tell, it thinks we're just not doing anything. If this continues, we will eventually get smaller in stature and weaker in strength because we don't need the height, or the strength. However, most likely society will collapse in the hundreds of thousands of years that it will take for that to happen, so it probably wont happen. Unless somehow we actually to evolve (technologically speaking) so far in every sense, that it would nearly be impossible to wipe our civilization and society off the planet.

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Evolution doesn't just improve on. It removes pointless things. As far as our bodies can tell, it thinks we're just not doing anything. If this continues, we will eventually get smaller in stature and weaker in strength because we don't need the height, or the strength. However, most likely society will collapse in the hundreds of thousands of years that it will take for that to happen, so it probably wont happen. Unless somehow we actually to evolve (technologically speaking) so far in every sense, that it would nearly be impossible to wipe our civilization and society off the planet.

Meh. Rambling.

You have to remeber that evolution only happens becuase of sex. Unless somthing hampers your ability to have it (most commonly by death) it will not be affected by evolution. There are tons of examples of useless things still stuck on our body, but they dont stop us from reproducing, so they stay.

In our modern world height has no affect on ability to reproduce, so we will not grow any shorter.
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Most likely, we'll continue the trends of the past millions of years and evolve not so much physically but moreso mentally.

Also, the theory of evolution can coexist with religion - it just can't coexist with intelligent design (that is, if you believe God made us as is, in the state we are now, as opposed to just creating the first lifeform or our ancestors and letting us evolve, or even controlling the evolutionary process).

By the way, the hard evidence for evolution far outclasses and outnumbers the evidence for intelligent design or a God so lmao. Just saying, not like you have to believe me or anything.