5th Gen Pros and Cons Discussion Thread

Started by Masterge77 September 16th, 2010 10:30 AM
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I've seen a lot of people here talk about what they like in B/W, but what about the things you hate about the games, what don't you like about B/W that dissapoints you or makes you mad? Or what do you like and favor about the games?

For me, it's the fact that Zorua and Zoroark are event only and you cannot obtain them at all in game, even from an egg given to you, despite not being legendaries at all, that's the thing I hate the most about B/W. I also dislike the Pokemon Musical, as it is nothing more than a Super Contest without the third part that plays out like the Contests in R/S/E.

What do you see as the pros and cons of B/W?

NOTE: This is not a topic to hate on the new Pokemon, this is a topic to discuss what features in the game you dislike and/or like, not a "I hate Pokemon X because it looks stupid" thread, In other words, this is about the game in general, not what individual Pokemon you hate/like simply because of what it looks like.....

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I hate everything about this game! it makes me wanna give up Pokemon

I hate nothing I love every aspect of the game, and there's still more to come.

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The new TM thing. Its really all I really dislike.
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As long as I haven't played it, I won't judge anything else than Pokemon designs. And I like most of these so far.
EDIT: note that I posted this BEFORE I saw the rest of the Pokedex, turns out not everything is as awesome as Smugleaf and Denchura. Yeah, I am that naive

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Some of the new Pokemon. They just look really off. I mean, I've always said don't judge a book by its cover, but still, Candle Pokemon?

Also, unbreakable TMs. They're just making the games easier and easier these days. Having said that, TMs could be really rare, in which case this feature would be cool. But we'll see.
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Meh, don't really hate much of Black/White, fully support it's 40/40 rating. The one thing I might not approve of is some Pokémon's designs, but let's be fair, each Gen has it's own props and slops.
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The Pokemon. I hate them. I counted how many I actually like. I liked 22/156.

I know I'm being awfully negative now. But I'm disappointed. ='( I feel like crying.

I do know I reacted similarly to Generation 4 and it took me a year to like to them. But Gen 4 wasn't nearly as bad as this....

I guess time will tell if I develop a taste for them or not. ='(

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The list:

1. The starters, ANOTHER Fighting and the rest being single typed
2. The choice of Legendaries, The look awful!
3. The fact that there are no Pokemon that evolve from a Pokemon, which is from another region and vice verser.
3. The first gym being a 3 tye one. Completely spoiles the saga of Pokemon gyms.
4. The Pokemon are based upon to many Human made things, i.e. Coffin, Hangin light bulb, Cogs (Need I go on...)
5. Coz its got to many NEW 2 type Pokemon (Was Game Freak abit Doolalee when They made a Ground/Electric Type FISH???!!!!!)

The Good parts...
There are lots of 3 evo Pokemon. Thats it...

My opinion is that the people who pre-ordered the game in Japan, before they even relesed the Pokedex, are pretty gutted and if this game makes more money than HG/SS Or DPP, then i'll eat my DS, Without ketchup!
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Hmmm.......the only things I hate about B/W are Pokbu's evos being Fire/Fighting, and 5 certain fighting types, as well as replacing the Pokéthlon with the Pokémon musical.
Don't get me wrong, I love fighting types and Pokabu's evo's designs, but meh.
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I hate about 90% of the Pokemon in it, most of them look like they where designed by a 5 year old, there are a few good ones, but not enough for me to be happy to sit through a game with them in, I was hoping they would have gone back to the more simple designs of the 1st and 2nd generations, those Pokemon look like they could actually be real creatures, now they are trying too hard to have the Pokemon look "cool"...needless to say it didn't work.
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Dislike... nuthin!!!! :P the games are just perfect, i just cant w8 to test out all the ew features. Some of the pokemon may look shi**y but some are pretty neat.
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Pokemon just lost alot of its buyers... I just can't say how let down I am... New York setting is the only thing besides the storyline I liked... Everything else can go away... Someone hacks B/W and replaces these god awful looking piles of garbage (literally) with older Pokemon and I'll play that...
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There's nothing to hate at the minute, since I haven't even given the game a try; there are so many new features from the previous generations that noone can really say that they hate much about the game yet except for the Pokemon designs. Speaking of which, so far, the Pokemon designs look awesome, I want to use half of the new Pokemon since they have such interesting designs, many of which are inspired by western creatures to fit alongside the area on which Isshu is based.

Forget the rose tinted glasses with the old design teams, I think Game Freak struck gold this time. In with the new!

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The lack of a Dark-Type Gym or a Poison-Type Gym is a little disappointing. Also, the Starters remain mono Typed for all of their evolutions... Except for Pokabu's final Evo, and OF COURSE that had to be a Fighting-Type. Other than that, I really like this Generation.
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The legendary roamers. They just really confuse me... They are part fighting and are on four legs!? So random...
Entei/Raikou/Suicune were runners on four legs. Hitmontop stood on its head.

Pokemon just lost alot of its buyers... I just can't say how let down I am... New York setting is the only thing besides the storyline I liked... Everything else can go away... Someone hacks B/W and replaces these god awful looking piles of garbage (literally) with older Pokemon and I'll play that...
Besides the fact that you're overreacting and nostalgiaing to the max, I can't help but admit I chuckled a little at your claim that people aren't going to buy it. The huge number of preorders so far disagrees with you, and I'm willing to bet you'll buy the game anyway.

Also, about the word literally- you keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means. Unless you're talking about Yabukuron and Dasutodasu, who are pretty cool guys in my book.

The only things that disappoint me are the starter final typings and that Mamanbou is apparently not related to Luvdisc.
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I dislike some of the looks of the Pokemon like the Garbage bag but that's all I'll get used to it...I hope...
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Actually, I don't dislike much of this game now. Of course some pokemon designs aren't that good, but you can't judge a book by its cover, and, most of the pokemon designs I liked.
But I'll play to see if this game is as good as they talk (or as bad) and then I'll have a good opinion. Out of that, the game looks good.
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I dislike the fact that the new Pokedex includes no new eolutions for past pokemon. I was hoping for a Castform evo, and a Sableye evo, but I guess I'll wait until next gen.
I also don't like all of the humaniod pokemon, that could get really annoying.

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I hate the fact that there isn't dark gym in the game, maybe because they are too evil to have a gym I hope there will be dark elite four
^--- this.

The list:

1. The starters, ANOTHER Fighting and the rest being single typed
2. The choice of Legendaries, The look awful!
3. The fact that there are no Pokemon that evolve from a Pokemon, which is from another region and vice verser.
^--- this minus: reshiram, zekrom, kyuremu the dragon trio.

I hate about 90% of the Pokemon in it, most of them look like they where designed by a 5 year old, there are a few good ones, but not enough for me to be happy to sit through a game with them in, I was hoping they would have gone back to the more simple designs of the 1st and 2nd generations, those Pokemon look like they could actually be real creatures, now they are trying too hard to have the Pokemon look "cool"...needless to say it didn't work.
hey! my 3year old daughter draws better than that >.>"

The lack of a Dark-Type Gym or a Poison-Type Gym is a little disappointing. Also, the Starters remain mono Typed for all of their evolutions... Except for Pokabu's final Evo, and OF COURSE that had to be a Fighting-Type. Other than that, I really like this Generation.
^--- i agree with this too, the poison types wouldve easily made a great gym in this region, & a dark-type E4 seriously? couldnt we have a gym instead -_-"

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I just check out serebii.net and checked out all th pokemon....
and I dont know what to say....
There is something when I was scanning the pokemons, there was no vibe, the way iut usually gives me. Stuff I dont like pokemon that that are out from being a pokemon like The ice cream family I hate the second one it looks like something from a 3 year old game and pokemon that evolved that that the only thing that changed were its size and color like the alligator family....
I dont like second and third evolution of Gear... they look like gear that they just added stuff on them to make them look different.. and lastly majority of the pokemon lost its cuteness.. cuteness is suppose to attract most players...
But the rest I like them... but rating them from 1-10 ill give it 6...
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The only thing I can say that I don't like about B/W is the extreme difference between most Pokemon's base forms and fully evolved forms. I think GF overdid it with this generation... =/ For example, families like: Tsutaja's, Pokabu's, Mijumaru's, Meguroko's, Desumaku's, Kaburuchi's, Kibago's, Monozu's (its final evolution seems out of place). I even tried fixing up Sazando, so it could look more like its predecessors:
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And then there's Pokemon who's evolutions look like a simply larger version of themselves. Chillarmy's, Gigear to Gigigear (one of the most pathetic things I've ever seen), Kurumiru's, and Meguroko to Warubiru (it should've had a slightly different coloration so its final evolution wouldn't look so out of place).

But that's really all I dislike... Even though I have heard that there is no night and day (which is pretty weird), but I'd trade 24 hour changes for seasons any day. :B